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The radar being developed for lca mk2 wud be aesa radar ......

my question is ........is it going to be development of mmr or an entirely new radar with jv ???

 

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Tarmak007 -- An Indian Aerospace & Defence Blog With A Difference By Anantha Krishnan M.: AVIATION WEEK: Tejas squadron to be rasied in Bangalore before moving to Sulur; LSP-3 & PV-3 back after successful hot-weather trials



The Indian Air Force (IAF) will form the first squadron of the light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas in Bangalore next year before it is moved to Sulur, IAF Vice Chief Air Marshal P.K. Barbora tells AVIATION WEEK. (Sulur is located near Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu.) The initial formation of the LCA squadron in Bangalore is primarily due to IAF’s proximity to the aircraft’s designer, the Aeronautical Development Agency; its manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL); and IAF’s test pilots’ unit, the Aircraft System Testing Establishment. In addition, the National Flight Test Center (NFTC), which is monitoring all LCA-related flying activities, is also within HAL’s military airport. "Training becomes easier in Bangalore for the IAF pilots on the new platform. In addition, any teething problems that the pilots might face while getting accustomed to Tejas can be sorted out before they move to Sulur,” an NFTC source says.
Phase-II hot-weather trials over: Meanwhile, Tejas crossed a significant hurdle when two LCAs successfully performed in hot-weather trials (HWTs) at Nagpur last week. Sources told AVIATION WEEK that the week-long HWTs were part of Tejas’ phase II schedule. The first phase was completed in 2008. “All new systems onboard and avionics were tested with temperatures varying from 40 to 45 degrees Celsius (104 to 114 deg. F.). We had absolutely no issues with these flights, and both platforms rose to the occasion and performed as expected. We had close to 10 flights as part of the trials,” a source says. Confirming the successful HWTs, P.S. Subramanyam, program director for combat aircraft and director of the Aeronautics Development Agency, says that one limited series production-3 aircraft and another prototype vehicle-3 from the Tejas fleet were part of the HWTs at Nagpur.

 

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First Tejas Squadron To Be Based In Sulur | AVIATION WEEK

First Tejas Squadron To Be Based In Sulur
Jun 14, 2010

By Anantha Krishnan M.
BENGALURU, India

The Indian Air Force (IAF) will form the first squadron of the light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas in Bangalore next year before it is moved to Sulur, IAF Vice Chief Air Marshal P.K. Barbora tells AVIATION WEEK.

Sulur is located near Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu.

The initial formation of the LCA squadron in Bangalore is primarily due to IAF’s proximity to the aircraft’s designer, the Aeronautical Development Agency; its manufacturer, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL); and IAF’s test pilots’ unit, the Aircraft System Testing Establishment. In addition, the National Flight Test Center (NFTC), which is monitoring all LCA-related flying activities, is also within HAL’s military airport.

“Training becomes easier in Bangalore for the IAF pilots on the new platform. In addition, any teething problems that the pilots might face while getting accustomed to Tejas can be sorted out before they move to Sulur,” an NFTC source says.

Barbora says, “The LCA Mk-II will have a new engine and we are hopeful that the product will be superior. Support is the key and we are hopeful that the Defense Research Development Organization and HAL will ensure that.”

IAF is willing to support indigenous programs as long as the products arrive on time, Barbora says. “We are not asking for the Moon. We are willing to wait, but give us what has been promised as per the deadline. We understand it’s not easy to make an aircraft.”

The IAF is currently in a transition phase, with new weapon systems and flying platforms set to be incorporated.

“In the next 10 years, IAF will change. Rapid technological changes pose a huge challenge, and even we need to change. There are no shortcuts in technology and we need to do things [the] right way,” Barbora says.

Meanwhile, Tejas crossed a significant hurdle when two LCAs successfully performed in hot-weather trials (HWTs) at Nagpur last week. Sources told AVIATION WEEK that the week-long HWTs were part of Tejas’ phase II schedule. The first phase was completed in 2008.

“All new systems onboard and avionics were tested with temperatures varying from 40 to 45 degrees Celsius (104 to 114 deg. F.). We had absolutely no issues with these flights, and both platforms rose to the occasion and performed as expected. We had close to 10 flights as part of the trials,” a source says.

The 11th test vehicle in the Tejas flight line is expected to fly soon as the program heads toward initial operational clearance in December. Weapons trials also are on the horizon.

“All the software will have to go into the final configuration of Tejas along with the flight control system and sensors. LSP-5 will be next. From LSP-3 flight, the multi-mode radar is onboard and this is clearly an indication as to our rapid progress in the program,” the source says. “We will be testing beyond-visual range missiles first and at a later stage the air-to-ground missiles which will take Tejas closer to the final operational clearance.”

Confirming the successful HWTs, P.S. Subramanyam, program director for combat aircraft and director of the Aeronautics Development Agency, says that one limited series production-3 aircraft and another prototype vehicle-3 from the Tejas fleet were part of the HWTs at Nagpur.

“Both aircraft are back in Bangalore and we are happy with what we have achieved. We are analyzing the data and will now move toward our next mission,” Subramanyam says.

 

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Great news

i am just waiting to see this hunk in action .... wonder how many people will get the bashing who have critised it and themselves dont have BVR capability

 

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i am just waiting to see this hunk in action .... wonder how many people will get the bashing who have critised it and themselves dont have BVR capability

the ones who criticized it ....will stick to to their view ...saying its still inferior to their **-** bcoz they have lost an habit of understanding !!!!

 

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IAF is willing to support indigenous programs as long as the products arrive on time, Barbora says. “We are not asking for the Moon. We are willing to wait, but give us what has been promised as per the deadline. We understand it’s not easy to make an aircraft.”

Too much is hidden between the lines -
How come every ACM and air-force official echo same feelings

“The Tejas Mark I is already as good or better as the light fighters in the IAF,” declares ADA chief, PS Subramaniam, referring to the MiG-21 BISON. “The air force should order at least 60 of them.”


But, the IAF is less exuberant.
Senior air marshals point out to Business Standard that, if they grant the Tejas IOC at the end of 2010, it will be in the long-term interest of the fighter programme, not because the Tejas has met all its targets. The Tejas does not fly as fast as originally planned; its acceleration is significantly less; and the Tejas has not been tested yet in carrying much of the weaponry it is designed to

Air Marshal Nak Brown will head the IAF’s team
It will be issues on the ground that will take centre stage in Bangalore . With questions over the LCA’s combat performance especially climb, acceleration and how fast it could turn at certain altitudes having cropped up during the recent sea trails at Arakonnam, a detailed assessment of what can be managed within the time frame will have to be undertaken. Sources said the IAF would have to be asked to lower certain aspects of their air staff requirements for the LCA, which at the moment were unrealistic.

According to the Defence Research and Development Organisation’s Chief Controller Research and Development (Aeronautics and Material Science) D. Banerjee, there is no doubt that the aircraft and engine have to improve, but any improvements will have to suit the time frame.

“The IAF will have to be asked how many aircraft they take with the current performance.”

Dr. Banerjee under whom ADA functions, told The Hindu that improvements can be made to the aero dynamism of the aircraft by ‘technical cleaning’ to remove drag, and also improving the LCA’s propulsion system.

Same question's remain unanswered
ACM --------------------------
ADA --------------------------- .

Someone is lying Big-time .
Its time we see both sides of coin , we have only seen one side of it .

 

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Too much is hidden between the lines -
How come every ACM and air-force official echo same feelings

Same question's remain unanswered
ACM --------------------------
ADA --------------------------- .

Someone is lying Big-time .
Its time we see both sides of coin , we have only seen one side of it .

They want a new 100KN engine and AESA radar , we all know that's why the MK2 exists.

 

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KAVERI-M88-3 HYBRID

To further develop the Kaveri engine to power future generation of UAV's and Next Generation Fighter Aircrafts (NGFA) a Joint Venture between Snecma Engine Manufacture from France and GTRE from India was formed in Mid 2008 to develop a 100KN Thrust engine, Snecma will bring in M88-3 Core and use the Technology developed for Kaveri to make this new engines,it is expected that the first working Prototype will be ready within 5 to 6 years

i picked this up from lca tejas org ......

dev time is 5-6 yrs ....that mean it wud be ready by 2013-14 , same time for tejas mk2 ...

but the ongoing competition is only between fe414 and ej 200 .... why so ??????

 

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i picked this up from lca tejas org ......

dev time is 5-6 yrs ....that mean it wud be ready by 2013-14 , same time for tejas mk2 ...

but the ongoing competition is only between fe414 and ej 200 .... why so ??????

coze IAF want proven engine which already flown and also JV of engine not sign yet it mean it will not ready before 2016.

 

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coze IAF want proven engine which already flown and also JV of engine not sign yet it mean it will not ready before 2016.

so why they r developing it if the main customer doesn't want it ???

for amca ??

 

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The LCA's intakes are Y-shaped (twin-S if you like) as in the image below and are perfectly stealthy

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It will be the shape of aircraft that will determine most of its stealth , LCA having composite ,RAM coating,being small or having Y duct will not make it stealthy but will definitely lower its overall RCS in clean config , but once you hang those external fuel tanks and A2A and A2G missile on those pylons and in the field conditions they operate it would be any body guess what effect it would have on RCS of aircraft

It is quite fascinating when Eurofighter , Rafale PR tom toms about its low RCS( ~ 0.5 m2 ) in clean config , I wonder how much of those figures are valid with weapons/fuel tank load and in actual field condition.