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[Aimar]

^^^the only problem remains the cost...even after 25% less..its the costliest....otherwise its the best..no doubt.

 

[Kinetic]

dude marwadi's r like **** of baniya's in bargaining.............i have dealed with both of them..........and beleive me marwadi's r hardcore buisness man...............btw marwadi's and baniya's belongs to same community as far as i think

dude never under estimate baniyas. i have dealt with marwadis many times, but they are not as tough as baniyas. those baniyas are born businessmen, business is in their blood.

 

[Kinetic]

^^^the only problem remains the cost...even after 25% less..its the costliest....otherwise its the best..no doubt.

If you add overall life cycle cost it will be marginally high. Modern techniques, COTS and LRU made Eurofighter cost effective in long term.

LCA, Eurofighter, MKI and FGFA combination will be unmatchable outside US!

 

[INDIAISM]

dude never under estimate baniyas. i have dealt with marwadis many times, but they are not as tough as baniyas. those baniyas are born businessmen, business is in their blood.

actualy i have many baniya friends from chld hood so i find easy to convience baniya in dealing as compare to marwadi

 

[Aimar]

If you add overall life cycle cost it will be marginally high. Modern techniques, COTS and LRU made Eurofighter cost effective in long term.

LCA, Eurofighter, MKI and FGFA combination will be unmatchable outside US!

agreed..but I think Rafale would be a better substitution for EF...as you know..MoD will clear only the lowest bidder..so EF stands a less chance even when clearing the tests..rafale also will also serve similarly on the long term as EF.

 

[SpArK]

@Kinetic which one is better EF or Rafale???

 

[Aimar]

EF typhoon

 

[SpArK]

EF typhoon

I asked kinetic. because i need reasons not 1 liners!!!!

 

[INDIAISM]

If you add overall life cycle cost it will be marginally high. Modern techniques, COTS and LRU made Eurofighter cost effective in long term.

LCA, Eurofighter, MKI and FGFA combination will be unmatchable outside US!

kinetic i think rafale will be better choice then eurofighterreason

1)infrastructure of dessault is already here{don't 4get e will be upgrading miraage 2000 in india}

2)we can trust france more then eads {BAE HAWK deal is a prime example}

3)indian navy also need an aircaft for iac2 so we can have rafale for that as EF don't have any carrier version

4)our pilots r already flying miraage2000 and it will take less time for them to be familiar with rafale


5)last but the most point they r ready to provide us with source code of AESA

 

[Aimar]

I asked kinetic. because i need reasons not 1 liners!!!!

oh great I could have given reasons as well...BTW what makes you think I replied to you ?? anyways there was no need of that rude post.

 

[KS]

If you add overall life cycle cost it will be marginally high. Modern techniques, COTS and LRU made Eurofighter cost effective in long term.

LCA, Eurofighter, MKI and FGFA combination will be unmatchable outside US!

And this is a rare place where me and my buddy agree to disagree....

Rafale rox..!!!!!

 

[Kinetic]

agreed..but I think Rafale would be a better substitution for EF...as you know..MoD will clear only the lowest bidder..so EF stands a less chance even when clearing the tests..rafale also will also serve similarly on the long term as EF.

mate....

1) First quoting IAF 'sources' some newspapers as came up with a scenario that the fighter which just meets IAF requirements and lowest bidder will win but Eurofighter was the first to protest against it. Later IAF chief/MoD confirmed that it is not like that but they will consider everything including technologies, capabilities, ToT issues, how much it benefits us etc etc.

2) Rafale is a good fighter no doubt but it has no taker. Technologically Eurofighter is newer, more advanced, combines technologies from four European countries and has more upgrade potentials. Yes, Rafale will be most less prone to sanction just after Mig-35, thats a good side.

 

[Aimar]

kinetic i think rafale will be better reason

1)infrastructure of dessault is already here{don't 4get e will be upgrading miraage 2000 in indis}

2)we can trust france more then eads {BAE HAWK deal is a prime example}

3)indian navy also need an aircaft for iac2 so we can have rafale for that as EF don't have any carrier version

4)our pilots r already flying miraage2000 and it will take less time for them to be familiar with rafale


5)last but the most point they r ready to provide us with source code of AESA

thats very good point....we should also not forget pakistan's deal for avionics was stopped recently..just after the Mirage upgrade deal talks...diplomatically as well, its gonna be beneficial to us apart from very important AESA source code sharing.

 

[SpArK]

oh great I could have given reasons as well...BTW what makes you think I replied to you ?? anyways there was no need of that rude post.

Did nt knew it was rude. I didn't knew u typed EF typhoon just for fun. Anyway don't bother. Im still waiting for his reply.

 

[JonAsad]

Nice thread.. and it seems no Pakistani is derailing it.. Good.. Keep going.
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