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EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: LCA Tejas At Leh

 

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EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: LCA Tejas Night Flying!

 

[Titanium]

It is surprising that you don't know that LCA is meant to replace Mig 21.

Thats what he said LCA is much better than mig 21 it is going to replace.

How enthusiastic the airforce is about LCA is stated in the same article that has been posted here. Please read it in full.

And by the way LCA will be inducted only after full IOC and FOC to the satisfaction of the airforce.

Until the LCA comes upto the satisfaction of Airforce it will not be inducted. Until then the airforce will keep on stating the shortcomings and HAL will keep on improving.

Thats why the engine will be replaced with either GE 414 or Eurojet 200.

Its in the Public Domain.

Sorry but we are going to induct LCA in large numbers and the financial allocation has been made for the same.

Yep, It was in 1994 maybe.

Since then world has moved on, but LCA is still stuck with 1980's concept.

Whats surprising is the this Guy, subramanium, pleading for 60 order, when he know he is not delivering the LCA to the agreed specification.


LCA falls so short, that it can qualify no more than a trainer now, hopefully.

 

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JF-17 – Specifications

Role: Multi-role combat aircraft.
Manufacturer: Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.
First flight: 25 August 2003.
Introduced: 12 March 2007.
Status: Under serial production and in active service.
Primary user: Pakistan Air Force.
Produced: In Pakistan: January 2008.
Unit cost: US$20 million (estimated).

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 14.0 m
Wingspan: 9.45 m (including 2 wingtip missiles)
Height: 4.77 m
Wing area: 24.4 m²
Empty weight: 6,411 kg
Loaded weight: 9,100 kg (including 2× wing-tip mounted air-to-air missiles)
Max takeoff weight: 12,700 kg
Power plant: 1× Klimov RD-93 turbofan
Dry thrust: 49.4 kN
Thrust with afterburner: 84.4 kN
G-limit: +8.5 g
Internal Fuel Capacity: 2300 kg

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 1.8
Combat radius: 1,352 km
Ferry range: 3,000 km
Service ceiling: 16,700 m
Thrust/weight: 0.99

Armament

Guns: 1× 23mm internal GSh-23-2 twin-barrel cannon.
Hard points: 7 in total (4× under-wing, 2× wing-tip, 1× under-fuselage) with a capacity of 3,629 kg (8,000 lb) external fuel and ordnance.

Rockets: 57mm/90mm unguided rocket pods.
Missiles: Air-to-air missiles: PL-5E, PL-9C, PL-12 / SD-10.
Air-to-surface missiles: anti-radiation missiles; anti-ship missiles (AM-39 Exocet); cruise missiles (Ra'ad ALCM).

Bombs: Gravity/Unguided bombs: general purpose (Mk-82, Mk-84); anti-runway (Matra Durandal), Precision guided munitions: laser-guided (GBU-10, GBU-12, LT-2); satellite-guided, Cluster bombs: anti-armour (CBU-100/Mk-20 Rockeye).

Others: Up to 3 external fuel drop-tanks (1× under-fuselage 800 liters, 2× under-wing 800/1100 liters each) for extended range/loitering time, Externally mounted avionics pods for EW, ECM, ELINT, FLIR and targeting, BM/KG300G self-protection jamming (ECM) pod, KZ900 electronic reconnaissance (SIGINT) pod, Blue Sky navigation/attack pod, FILAT (Forward-looking Infra-red Laser Attack Targeting) pod.

Avionics: NRIET KLJ-7 multi-mode fire-control radar.

Production: JF-17 production in 2010 was planned at 20 planes, while from 2012 it is planned to be at 30 planes per year at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.

JF-17 Planned upgrades: all PAF JF-17 jets will be modified to aerial refueling capable; Subsequent upgrades will be made on PAF JF-17 jets approximately every five years.

PAF JF-17 Order: Pakistan Air force will get total 275 JF-17 jets, According to Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmad of the PAF, the first JF-17 squadron will be inducted into the PAF fleet in the first quarter of 2009.

[B]Tejas – Specifications
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Role: Multi-role fighter.
Manufacturer: Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.
First flight: 4 January 2001.
Introduction: 2011.
Status: Under development / pre-production.
Primary user: Indian Air force.
Unit cost: US$30 million (estimated).

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 13.20 m
Wingspan: 8.20 m
Height: 4.40 m
Wing area: 38.4 m²
Empty weight: 6,500 kg
Loaded weight: 9,500 kg
Max takeoff weight: 14,500 kg
Power plant: 1× General Electric F404-GE-IN20 turbofan
Dry thrust: 53.9 kN
Thrust with afterburner: 85 kN
G limits: +8.5 g
Internal fuel capacity: 3000 liters

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.0
Range: 3000 km
Service ceiling: 15,950+ m
Thrust/weight: 1.02

Armament
Guns: 1× mounted 23 mm twin-barrel GSh-23 cannon.
Hard points: 8 total: 1× beneath the port-side intake trunk, 6× under-wing, and 1× under-fuselage with a capacity of >4000 kg external fuel and ordnance.

Missiles: air-to-air missiles: Astra BVRAAM, Vympel R-77, Vympel R-73.
Air-to-surface missiles: Kh-59ME TV guided standoff Missile; Kh-59MK Laser guided standoff Missile, Anti-ship missile, Kh-35, Kh-31.
Bombs: KAB-1500L laser guided bombs, FAB-500T dumb bombs, OFAB-250-270 dumb bombs, OFAB-100-120 dumb bombs, RBK-500 cluster bombs.
Others: External fuel capacity: 5×800 liter tanks or 3×1,200 liter tanks, totaling 4,000/3,600 liters.

Avionics: EL/M-2052 AESA radar.

Production: Still in pre-production.

IAF orders: Indian Air force will get total 220 Tejas jets (Expected).


I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS... OHH ALMOST FORGOT THE AESA RADAR WHICH IS GONNA BE FITTED TO

1 question: how can LCA beat JF-17 when LCA is not even produced?

are you going to laugh PAF pilots to death or throw the plans of the LCA at them?

 

[IndianArmy]

1 question: how can LCA beat JF-17 when LCA is not even produced?

are you going to laugh PAF pilots to death or throw the plans of the LCA at them?

You call LCA not even produced, where were You when when it was completing 1000+flight trials and LSP 4 is Out already..... And to compare an Aircraft, Induction is not necessary..

 

[JonAsad]

You call LCA not even produced, where were You when when it was completing 1000+flight trials and LSP 4 is Out already..... And to compare an Aircraft, Induction is not necessary..

do gazillions flight trials and put it in the museum, really induction is not necessory.

 

[IndianArmy]

do gazillions flight trials and put it in the museum, really induction is not necessory.

Thats non of your business dear, Consider it the way that, Our forces arent desperate enough to have a Fast Induction before testing all the parameters , unlike my neighbouring country, China is still thinking to Induct it or not and Pakistan already Inducted, Speaks a Lot about JF-17..

 

[ISRO]

do gazillions flight trials and put it in the museum, really induction is not necessory.

well if LCA not fit to IAF requirement so we surely put them into museum..... on the other hand PAF use jf17 as their main fighters but they cant even match with current LCA

 

[Titanium]

well if LCA not fit to IAF requirement so we surely put them into museum.....

Finally that will be exactly the case.

Trust me, No acceleration, no speed ...makes it worse than a trainer

 

[SQ8]

Seems to be IAF Leh.
God the damn jet look soo much like the Thunder from these angles.

 

[JonAsad]

Thats non of your business dear, Consider it the way that, Our forces arent desperate enough to have a Fast Induction before testing all the parameters , unlike my neighbouring country, China is still thinking to Induct it or not and Pakistan already Inducted, Speaks a Lot about JF-17..

every country inducts jet fighters according to their needs.
we think jf-17 are more than enough for ur mki's.
and our k8 trainers will give lca a tough fight

 

[bluefox]

i will never agree with you that pakistan is nothing infront of you.
i will never even agree with you that Pakistan is nothing against USA,russia,france,Uk,india

except countries like turkey and china.
id nt wher is turkey flag

we hav teached you lesson in all wars.even your army offical now realised that kargil was a failure
its true kashmir is your land bt we captured it with force and you dnt dare to get it back.this is power

Do u even know what u said ??
kashmir is indeed our's !!!

 

[JonAsad]

Finally that will be exactly the case.

Trust me, No acceleration, no speed ...makes it worse than a trainer

Maybe LCA can be used for target practice by IAF

 

[ISRO]

every country inducts jet fighters according to their needs.
we think jf-17 are more than enough for ur mki's.
and our k8 trainers will give lca a tough fight

yes surely jf17 can beat MKi but in dreams

and as m told u that u cant even make ww2 era aircraft, k8 and jf17 is Chinese not urs