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[IND151]

Bangalore: Defence scientists, engineers and pilots attached to India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas programme are on a war footing to ensure that the fighter doesn't miss the December deadline for its Initial Operational Clearance (IOC-2). Three aircraft (LSP-3, LSP-5, LSP-8) from the Tejas flight-line are currently undertaking weapon trials in Jamnagar. The Russian-made R73-E missile will be fired during the ongoing trials.
Sources confirm to Express that the Ministry of Defence has made it clear to both Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) that the IOC-2 deadline won't be extended any more. The IAF pilots will formally get to fly Tejas after the IOC-2 declaration. So far, the Tejas variants have completed 2391 sorties, clocking 1,520 hours in over 12 years.
Currently the fine tuning of the software and various onboard systems are being done during various trials. Flight trials are also progressing in Bangalore with the final version of equipment and mission systems getting a relook. “We haven't been lagging on any of the IOC-2 parameters now. We are working to clear all the test points. The results of Jamnagar trials will be crucial,” says an HAL official working with the Aircraft Research and Design Centre.
“Every weapon has to be fired at different modes, expanding the flight envelope of the aircraft. It is a huge matrix and we have to tick-mark all points ahead of the IOC-2 closure. A final review is expected next month ahead of IOC-2,” the official added.
Sources say that the Digital Flight Control Computer and Air Data Computer of Tejas have been showing hardware failures causing last-minute concerns to the engineers. “But the show must go on. Now the naval prototype of Tejas (NP1) is also ready with all its modifications and raring to go. The modified Tejas trainer (PV5) with its matured software is also ready,” an official said.
The growing differences between HAL and the Indian Air Force are a concern to New Delhi, which is bent on the programme getting the IOC-2 tag before December. The Finance Ministry's refusal to grant pension to ADA employees recently (a long-pending demand) has also created heartburn to many working on the Tejas project.
Notwithstanding the turmoils and delays the project has been facing recently, a Defence Research and Development Organisation official said December 20 has been tentatively fixed for IOC-2. “As of now that's the date floating around, and it is subject to change,” the official added.

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[rockstarIN]

Notwithstanding the turmoils and delays the project has been facing recently, a Defence Research and Development Organisation official said December 20 has been tentatively fixed for IOC-2.

 

[he-man]

bullshit of the highest order

 

[sudhir007]

 
Livefist: Tejas Christmas For IAF?

With three limited series production airframes of the LCA Tejas now ripping it up in the skies over the IAF's South-Western Air Command ranges in Gujarat, there's hope that the residual initial operational clearance milestone (designated IOC-2) will be achieved before Christmas. The three aircraft will be performing all manner of weapons release, including firing the Vympel R-73 again. The aircraft will also tick off test points in nightflying, electronic warfare and sensor-weapon integration. My sources tell me the Tejas team is looking to declare IOC-2 in a time window between Dec 19-24. Here's hoping it happens.
On November 6, Defence Minister AK Antony gave the DRDO an earful, making it amply clear that the team would get no further extensions on time and cost. And remember, after IOC-2, the IAF gets to fly the Tejas as part of routine squadron sorties. Also in the pipeline, the possible roll-out of four series production LCAs from HAL's Bangalore facility next month. Let's hope that lands on time too.
Lots on the Tejas over the next few weeks.

 

[MilSpec]

LCA tejas will qualify for Python IV, derby, RVV AE-M1, RVV MD, R73, R27, and astra I/II and hopefully mica, making it's AAM quals almost equal to MKI

 

[kaykay]

what about R-77 missile test from Tejas?? Never heard it testing this particular missile as of now.

 

[MilSpec]

what about R-77 missile test from Tejas?? Never heard it testing this particular missile as of now.

Radar binding source codes are similar for R73, R77, R27, based on radar range almost every aircraft qualified for one can fire all three (with a few exception which we wont go into now)....I would like to see LCA qualify fo some anti shipping missiles like KH 59 and KH 35, KH31, and KH 29

 

[GURU DUTT]

LCA tejas will qualify for Python IV, derby, RVV AE-M1, RVV MD, R73, R27, and astra I/II and hopefully mica, making it's AAM quals almost equal to MKI

well sir please can u upload the specs of proposed LCA MK1 in terms of fighting radius , radar range & tracking ability, wepons package with there ranges...thanks in advance

 

[MilSpec]

well sir please can u upload the specs of proposed LCA MK1 in terms of fighting radius , radar range & tracking ability, wepons package with there ranges...thanks in advance

Radar range, I am not really sure about, I think it should be the available specs of the Elta 2032, the significance of this particular radar is that it can quaify all soviet, Israeli and french missiles, that includes all (r27, r77 family, r73 variants) + Derby and Python 4 (same as harrier and MKI), mica and Astra missiles,

Now As far as I know older Mig 29's had compatibility issue with python 4 and hence it was qualified on MKI with significant R&D, and Mirages cannot qualify any russian missiles, that makes MKI and LCA unique to qualify indian-israeli-french-russian armaments. I think that is very coo!!!

Off topic, I have heard very good things about the elta 2032 on harriers, sometimes we go gonzo over over range, but noise cancellation, signal strength, resolution are equally important features for radar packages....

 

[he-man]

well sir please can u upload the specs of proposed LCA MK1 in terms of fighting radius , radar range & tracking ability, wepons package with there ranges...thanks in advance

elta 2032 has 150 km detection range


Description: EL/M-2032 is an advanced pulse Doppler, multimode fire control radar intended for multi-mission fighter aircraft. It is suitable for air-to-air and air-to-surface modes. In the air-to-air mode the radar delivers long-range target detection and tracking capability. In the air-to-surface mode, the radar generates high resolution ground imagery using Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) technology for smart weapons guidance. Air-to-Sea mode provides long-range detection and tracking as well as target identification capability.

EL/M-2032 air-to-air mode has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km. The radar system weighs between 72 and 100 kg. To date, Elta Systems has integrated this radar system into F-4, F-5, F-16, Mirage and Mig-21.

EL/M-2032

 

[GURU DUTT]

elta 2032 has 150 km detection range


Description: EL/M-2032 is an advanced pulse Doppler, multimode fire control radar intended for multi-mission fighter aircraft. It is suitable for air-to-air and air-to-surface modes. In the air-to-air mode the radar delivers long-range target detection and tracking capability. In the air-to-surface mode, the radar generates high resolution ground imagery using Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) technology for smart weapons guidance. Air-to-Sea mode provides long-range detection and tracking as well as target identification capability.

EL/M-2032 air-to-air mode has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km. The radar system weighs between 72 and 100 kg. To date, Elta Systems has integrated this radar system into F-4, F-5, F-16, Mirage and Mig-21.

EL/M-2032

ok what about how many targets can it can track and scan simontaniousli and is that range of 150 Km for 3Msq or 5Msq targets

 

[he-man]

ok what about how many targets can it can track and scan simontaniousli and is that range of 150 Km for 3Msq or 5Msq targets

here is the company brocure

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[rockstarIN]

Radar range, I am not really sure about, I think it should be the available specs of the Elta 2032, the significance of this particular radar is that it can quaify all soviet, Israeli and french missiles, that includes all (r27, r77 family, r73 variants) + Derby and Python 4 (same as harrier and MKI), mica and Astra missiles,

Now As far as I know older Mig 29's had compatibility issue with python 4 and hence it was qualified on MKI with significant R&D, and Mirages cannot qualify any russian missiles, that makes MKI and LCA unique to qualify indian-israeli-french-russian armaments. I think that is very coo!!!

Off topic, I have heard very good things about the elta 2032 on harriers, sometimes we go gonzo over over range, but noise cancellation, signal strength, resolution are equally important features for radar packages....

Is MKI radar accommodate French missiles? same way 2032 is okay with Russian BVRs?

It means we have source codes of 2032 as well as MKI BARs.

I would like to see 2052 AESA version of 2032 in LCA MK2. 

elta 2032 has 150 km detection range


Description: EL/M-2032 is an advanced pulse Doppler, multimode fire control radar intended for multi-mission fighter aircraft. It is suitable for air-to-air and air-to-surface modes. In the air-to-air mode the radar delivers long-range target detection and tracking capability. In the air-to-surface mode, the radar generates high resolution ground imagery using Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) technology for smart weapons guidance. Air-to-Sea mode provides long-range detection and tracking as well as target identification capability.

EL/M-2032 air-to-air mode has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km. The radar system weighs between 72 and 100 kg. To date, Elta Systems has integrated this radar system into F-4, F-5, F-16, Mirage and Mig-21.

EL/M-2032

Which air force has integrated F-16 with 2032? Sufas flying with American radars as they did not allow to change the radar.

 

[he-man]

Is MKI radar accommodate French missiles? same way 2032 is okay with Russian BVRs?

It means we have source codes of 2032 as well as MKI BARs.

I would like to see 2052 AESA version of 2032 in LCA MK2. 



Which air force has integrated F-16 with 2032? Sufas flying with American radars as they did not allow to change the radar.

we cannot get 2052 as it was red flagged by the americans when we asked israelis to provide that.
so most probably aesa of mk2 will be home built with external help

 

[Sri]

Now I believe the 2052 Aesa is on offer - Advanced Systems Improve Tejas’ Fighting Skills - Defense Update - Military Technology & Defense News Earlier it was barred due to MMRCA competition which now US fighters have lost. Pl comment...
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