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[kingdurgaking]

http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/files/9/36129.pdf


Interesting, but we should wait till there are more infos, or official reports for these articles. It would make more sense to use the MKI, or MMRCAs with such dedicated jamming pods in escort roles.

when Griphen can do?? why not LCA?

 

[SpArK]

 

[Abingdonboy]

I don't understand why the IAF is waiting for Test aircraft? Wouldn't IAF active fighters be brand new LCAs not ex Test?

 

[kingdurgaking]

I don't understand why the IAF is waiting for Test aircraft? Wouldn't IAF active fighters be brand new LCAs not ex Test?

LSP-7 & LSP-8 are the original Production configurations..... LSP-6 will be looked for enhancements and for further testing... After LSP-7 & 8 all the older one will be upgraded to the LSP-7 & 8 standards

 

[sancho]

when Griphen can do?? why not LCA?

Where is the Gripen doing escort jamming roles? Because we have more capable fighters in the fleet, that can carry a jammer, but also more fuel and weapons for such roles, not to mention the WSO on the backseat. The MKI, or a Su 34 are perfect for such roles!

 

[kingdurgaking]

Where is the Gripen doing escort jamming roles? Because we have more capable fighters in the fleet, that can carry a jammer, but also more fuel and weapons for such roles, not to mention the WSO on the backseat. The MKI, or a Su 34 are perfect for such roles!

agreed on capable fighter... Gripen is the only fighter in Sweden.. it will only do escort and jamming roles for them... they wont import separate fighter for that.. but only either escort or jamming for that mission... LCA similarly can do escort and jamming role alone... with 3 fuel tanks it can do that work alone more perfectly... even dedicated EW role may be assigned to LCA.. who knows...

 

[GORKHALI]

 

[Abingdonboy]

LSP-7 & LSP-8 are the original Production configurations..... LSP-6 will be looked for enhancements and for further testing... After LSP-7 & 8 all the older one will be upgraded to the LSP-7 & 8 standards

Yes but what is was trying to ask is will ex-test a/c be inducted into full, active IAF service? And if so why? Shouldn't the IAF receive brand new fighters and ex-test planes be resigned to museums (for older lSP 1-3) or kept by HAL/ADA for testing further upgrades.

 

[sancho]

agreed on capable fighter... Gripen is the only fighter in Sweden.. it will only do escort and jamming roles for them... they wont import separate fighter for that.. but only either escort or jamming for that mission... LCA similarly can do escort and jamming role alone... with 3 fuel tanks it can do that work alone more perfectly... even dedicated EW role may be assigned to LCA.. who knows...

Did not seen a Gripen with a jamming pod so far and AFAIK the only fighters in Europe with capable jamming and SEAD avionics are Tornados. When LCA carries 3 fuel tanks, where should it carry the jamiming pod, or are we talking about different things?

F18SH Growler with EW pods:

Su 34 with EW pods:

Su 30 MKI prototype with EW pod:

And a model of an Indian MKI with DARE EW equipments that Sudhir posted recently:

 

[IndianArmy]

agreed on capable fighter... Gripen is the only fighter in Sweden.. it will only do escort and jamming roles for them... they wont import separate fighter for that.. but only either escort or jamming for that mission... LCA similarly can do escort and jamming role alone... with 3 fuel tanks it can do that work alone more perfectly... even dedicated EW role may be assigned to LCA.. who knows...

There is an "EW LCA" already in the making which will be used for dedicated EW roles...Below in this picture is the PV1 which is being modified for The Electronic Warfare Role

 

[SpArK]

 

[sancho]

That's the Litening targeting pod, not an EW pod in case you meant that.

 

[SpArK]

That's the Litening targeting pod, not an EW pod in case you meant that.

Pod with EW sensors and CM

 

[sancho]

Pod with EW sensors and CM

Over the last few years it has become more important to equip helicopters with self protection solutions due to the widening scope of missions, the proliferation of man portable missiles and the danger of becoming a target during missions. This EW system pod provides quickly installed self protection.

A part that this is for helicopters, we have to differ between self protection pods, or systems like IAF used in the past for their fighters, which today are integrated in the fighter itself, or at least in ECM pods (on the wingtips, or tailfin) and dedicated jaming pods for electronic attack. The latter is what the Elta pod which the P. Sengupta article was talking about, or like those pods of the Growler, or Flanker versions I mentioned.

 

[kingdurgaking]

Yes but what is was trying to ask is will ex-test a/c be inducted into full, active IAF service? And if so why? Shouldn't the IAF receive brand new fighters and ex-test planes be resigned to museums (for older lSP 1-3) or kept by HAL/ADA for testing further upgrades.

As per my knowledge all LSP will be configured to production version.. and LSP-6 will be retained by DRDO... All the LSP's are just 2-3 yrs old which are brand new only.. and they will go for the full scale production upgrade... which will look exactly like LSP-7 & 8...

IAF is waiting for 7 & 8 to start testing because it doesnt make sense to test a product which is not of production standard right?