Greece seeks to join F-35 program as it lobbies against Turkey F-16 sale

[MMM-E]

Half of the Rafale will be slightly used models that were stationed in France and the other half will be brand new. You should also start worrying about the F-16Vs.

Our S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems easly can turn your Rafales and F-16Vs into crap of metal over the Aegean

Turkiye also use its own AESA Radar , EW Suite , etc to modernize 35+80 F-16s to block70 VIPER standard

Also Turkiye will buy 40 F-16V from USA or 30+80 Eurofighter from the UK

better Greece should start worrying about the KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to beat Rafale and F-16V in BVR combat

 

[Signalian]

Cost of buying S400.
A very bad decision by Turkey. Now they are struggling to get even F16

TFX would never have been conceived.

JFT and AK were born out of sanctions, otherwise 111 F-16s would have never let PAF join hands with Chinese for modern fighter manufacturing. There are COTS options available along with open architecture solutions to help modernize homegrown production of weapons. Even the rich gulf countries are now trying to diversify their arsenal of weapons from different suppliers and also producing weapons in their countries through taking meaningful steps in R&D.

 

[Foinikas]

Our S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems easly can turn your Rafales and F-16Vs into crap of metal over the Aegean

Turkiye also use its own AESA Radar , EW Suite , etc to modernize 35+80 F-16s to block70 VIPER standard

better Greece should start worrying about the KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to beat Rafale and F-16V in BVR combat
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Everything is easy for Turkey according to you

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey's bankrupt...

Turkiye has more money than all Balkan Countries combined including Greece and Romania

even Turkiye develops 800+ military projects for over $75 billion
and Turkish Airlines buys 387 new Planes for $66 billion until 2023

only 2 projects = $141 billion
Turkiye to spend around $1 trillion for public projects between 2003 and 2023 led by president ERDOGAN

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye has more money than all Balkan Countries combined including Greece and Romania

even Turkiye develops 800+ military projects for over $75 billion
and Turkish Airlines buys 387 new Planes for $66 billion until 2023

only 2 projects = $141 billion
Turkiye to spend around $1 trillion for public projects between 2003 and 2023 led by president ERDOGAN

Is that why inflation reached 65% and people are complaining about prices and salaries?

 

[MMM-E]

Everything is easy for Turkey according to you

Even outdated S200 hit İsraeli F-16

most modern S400 and SIPER easly can hit Greek Rafales and F-16s

 

[Constantin84]

Turkiye has more money than all Balkan Countries combined including Greece and Romania

even Turkiye develops 800+ military projects for over $75 billion
and Turkish Airlines buys 387 new Planes for $66 billion until 2023

only 2 projects = $141 billion
Turkiye to spend around $1 trillion for public projects between 2003 and 2023 led by president ERDOGAN

Sry....but no.....Turkey 2022 budget 104 billion dollars.....Romania 2022 budget 109 billion dollars....sry, the lira nose dived....stop dreaming of countless money,you have a state budget smaller than Romania, let alone "the whole Balkans "
Sources

Turkish parliament approves 2022 budget

Lawmakers ratify budget after 12-day marathon debate in parliament - Anadolu Agency

www.aa.com.tr

Romania's parl adopts 2022 budget projecting 5.84% deficit, 4.6% GDP growth

BUCHAREST (Romania), December 23 (SeeNews) - Romania's parliament on Thursday approved the 2022 state budget, which projects a cash deficit equivalent to 5.84% of gross domestic pr

seenews.com

 

[jamahir]

Hey @jamahir @Bleek @IblinI @dani92 @BON PLAN @aryobarzan @Sainthood 101 @PakFactor @Vergennes

It's that song that's been playing again and again

The evergreen singer is back, eh ?

 

[MMM-E]

Sry....but no.....Turkey 2022 budget 104 billion dollars.....Romania 2022 budget 109 billion dollars....sry, the lira nose dived....stop dreaming of countless money,you have a state budget smaller than Romania, let alone "the whole Balkans "
Sources

Turkish currency under attack by USA since 2013 and Turkish Lira dropped by 855% since 2013 ( 1 USD has risen to 15,4 TL from 1.8 TL )

still as of 2022 , Turkiye has bigger GDP Nominal than all Balkan Countries combined including Greece and Romania



stop compare backward- undeveloped Romania and Greece with regional power Turkiye

Turkiye has enough money to spend even $100 billion for humanitarian aid to other countries
and for military operations in İraq,Syria,Libya,Qatar,Somalia,Azerbaijan and in the Eastern Mediterranean against USA-France and their puppets/terrorists also Russia-İran backed SAA,HAFTAR,IRGC,HEZBOL,etc since 2016

 

[mulj]

Well-known where? In Bosnia? Yugoslavia?

Yugoslavia.

 

[Constantin84]

Turkish currency under attack by USA since 2013 and Turkish Lira dropped by 855% since 2013 ( 1 USD has risen to 15,4 TL from 1.8 TL )

still as of 2022 , Turkiye has bigger GDP Nominal than all Balkan Countries combined including Greece and Romania



stop compare poor -backward- undeveloped Romania and Greece with regional power Turkiye

Turkiye has enough money to spend even $100 billion for humanitarian aid to other countries
and for military operations in İraq,Syria,Libya,Qatar,Somalia,Azerbaijan and in the Eastern Mediterranean against USA-France and their puppets/terrorists also Russia-İran backed SAA,HAFTAR,IRGC,HEZBOL,etc since 2016

Provide sources.....enough with the rants, superpower with less money at their disposal than Romania.....btw by the end of the year, that budget will be well under 100 billions as the lira keeps plummeting. Bye

 

[MMM-E]

Provide sources.

in 2013 Turkiye had $957 billion of GDP Nominal

but since 2013 there was economic-asymmetric war between Turkiye and USA-France-PKK/YPG , FETO , HAFTAR , Greece , Armenia , etc in İraq,Syria,Libya,Qatar,Azerbaijan and in the Eastern Mediterranean


I am saying again ..... USA used Dollars as a weapon against Turkiye
Turkish currency under attack by USA since 2013 and Turkish Lira dropped by 855% since 2013 ( 1 USD has risen to 15,4 TL from 1.8 TL )

still as of 2022 , Turkiye has bigger economy than all Balkan Countries combined including Greece and Romania

Turkiye $692 billion
Romania $286 billion
Greece $222 billion ..... even Greece and Romania use EURO

SOURCE : IMF , World Bank

List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

if there were not attacks on Turkiye and Turkish Economy by USA since 2013 , now Turkiye would have minimum $1,6 trillion of GDP Nominal instead of $692 billion

because Turkiye and China had the fastest growing economy in OECD in the last 10 years

 

[BON PLAN]

It's that song that's been playing again and again

For every turkish forumer, Turkey is best in all fields. So nothing new.

But it remains clear that the industrial power of Turkey is bigger than those of Greece, and are quite impressive in some area. See the commercial and tactical success of turkish UAV.

Our S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems easly can turn your Rafales and F-16Vs into crap of metal over the Aegean

So explain me why, after 80 days of heavy battle, there remain ukrainian old style fighters (versus newer F16-70 or Rafale) in the ukrainian sky over the battle field ?
Where are the russians Mig 31 and S400? Maybe they are not efficient as intended.

 

[Ghostkiller]

So explain me why, after 80 days of heavy battle, there remain ukrainian old style fighters (versus newer F16-70 or Rafale) in the ukrainian sky over the battle field ?
Where are the russians Mig 31 and S400? Maybe they are not efficient as intended.

The problem in Ukraine is that since the first wave of the war, Russia didn't destroy all SAM systems plus the Ukrainians have thousands of MANPADS etc... I think S-400 is a "success". And Ukraine have hundreds of S-300 inherited from URSS or given by Poland Czech Slovakia Estonia etc... And the most important thing is that the UE and USA are helping Ukraine with very important infos about enemy position (generals, the place where the BM will target etc...). Russia is fighting the whole NATO vs them. It is a proxy war. The NATO give them infos and Ukraine execute the order.

 

[MMM-E]

So explain me why, after 80 days of heavy battle, there remain ukrainian old style fighters (versus newer F16-70 or Rafale) in the ukrainian sky over the battle field ?
Where are the russians Mig 31 and S400? Maybe they are not efficient as intended.

From İzmir ( Turkiye ) to Athens ( Greece ) = 300 km
From Donetsk to Lviv in Ukraine = 1.000 - 1.200 km

so S400s can block Aegean Sea against Greek Rafales and F-16Vs
S400s can lock on Greek Rafales and F-16Vs even over Greek Airspace


btw if Turkiye fires 1.000 BORA , J600T , ATACMS ,SOM , ATMACA , SLAM-ER , GEZGIN , HARM , KUZGUN-TJ , TRLG-230 ,CAKIR Missiles , then no more Air Bases - Jet Hangars , Air Defense Systems in Greece and Greek Islands