Gen. Raheel Sharif receiving proper welcome in Masjid-e-Nabwi

[Viper0011.]

If you look hard enough, you will see crumb trail of corruption NS left behind

Pakistan PM `made millions in UK'

No proofs!!! But just to sum up the answer in one sentence, EVERYONE makes millions. No one in politics or even at the General level is a saint!!!! But the measurement criteria is......when someone "may" have made millions, did they create BILLIONS for their people and changed their country's past to a better future.....? If the answer is yes, the argument is closed. If you want to see the progress, go check out the thread infrastructure development in Pakistan on this forum. That ends the argument. But I'd still tell you, writing "Articles" means any internet warrior can do it, having "proofs" should go to the supreme court so try your luck there if you have any !! Its been THREE years I've been reading low quality junk about "corruption", when the COAS and the PM ride together in ONE Jeep and check out projects in Baluchistan
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That to me is a TEAM work, a term that doesn't exist in Pakistani population. Learn from RS and NS!!!! Everyone working together takes Pakistan forward like how Indians did it. Separation and hate only causes damage to your country and it can't afford more of 80's politics that some are playing!!

Also, did you know that Pakistani Constitution ALLOWS commission to military and other leaders if they chose to get it . That's why Mushy and others don't have a case on this topic. Again, the measuring stick is, whether a general or a politician, if they made $$ in commission, were the products purchased still better than the competition or were purchased lower quality, etc? If lower quality, then the commission becomes a crime. If the best quality was selected, than someone paying commission means nothing as the country's interest wasn't taken out of the equation!!

Not knowing your own Constitution means, you are defending a ghost as you've never seen or understood it . I think your schools need to start teaching your own constitutions in schools so people at the least know wtf the constitution says and what's the logic behind it. The guys in the boots have never let the nation understand their rights by suppressing the constitution.

 

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No proofs!!! But just to sum up the answer in one sentence, EVERYONE makes millions. No one in politics or even at the General level is a saint!!!! But the measurement criteria is......when someone "may" have made millions, did they create BILLIONS for their people and changed their country's past to a better future.....? If the answer is yes, the argument is closed. If you want to see the progress, go check out the thread infrastructure development in Pakistan on this forum. That ends the argument. But I'd still tell you, writing "Articles" means any internet warrior can do it, having "proofs" should go to the supreme court so try your luck there if you have any !! Its been THREE years I've been reading low quality junk about "corruption", when the COAS and the PM ride together in ONE Jeep and check out projects in Baluchistan
.

That to me is a TEAM work, a term that doesn't exist in Pakistani population. Learn from RS and NS!!!! Everyone working together takes Pakistan forward like how Indians did it. Separation and hate only causes damage to your country and it can't afford more of 80's politics that some are playing!!

Also, did you know that Pakistani Constitution ALLOWS commission to military and other leaders if they chose to get it . That's why Mushy and others don't have a case on this topic. Again, the measuring stick is, whether a general or a politician, if they made $$ in commission, were the products purchased still better than the competition or were purchased lower quality, etc? If lower quality, then the commission becomes a crime. If the best quality was selected, than someone paying commission means nothing as the country's interest wasn't taken out of the equation!!

Not knowing your own Constitution means, you are defending a ghost as you've never seen or understood it . I think your schools need to start teaching your own constitutions in schools so people at the least know wtf the constitution says and what's the logic behind it. The guys in the boots have never let the nation understand their rights by suppressing the constitution.

Can you drag Zardari in court and provide proofs against him ???? There is no proof against zardari too. I don't know if anyone have it but they were failed to provide these proofs in court since he was in jail almost 11 years.

So Zardari is not corrupt ??? Mr. Nawaz Sharif and his family is corrupt to the core same as Asif Ali Zardari. You can deny it but in the end we don't have proofs against both of them but there was a story of BBC in which Ishaq Dar accepted that he was involve in money laundering for Mr Nawaz Sharif.

 

[Viper0011.]

Can you drag Zardari in court and provide proofs against him ???? There is no proof against zardari too. I don't know if anyone have it but they were failed to provide these proofs in court since he was in jail almost 11 years.

So Zardari is not corrupt ??? Mr. Nawaz Sharif and his family is corrupt to the core same as Asif Ali Zardari. You can deny it but in the end we don't have proofs against both of them but there was a story of BBC in which Ishaq Dar accepted that he was involve in money laundering for Mr Nawaz Sharif.

You want to know the truth? I might get banned again but I'll write it as I stand for it. Zardari, Mushy and many others are corrupt. There were deals in between to let Mushy off the hook and the military will look the other way and will actually help Zardari in remaining "CLEAN" (thanks to Gen. KIyani and the 6 billion he made and has returned in November of last year) . Instead of Kiyani, they caught two "lower ranking officers" and put Kiyani's brother on top of the blame on ONE of the issues in Defense Housing

On NS, have they done corruption before in 90's? I am SURE they have. But have they been honest and wanting to build a legacy for their current rule with as clean slate and hard work as possible? Yes, that's true. And it is recognized by the world, if you haven't been following the billions pouring in. So as long as people with honesty are doing things for average Pakistanis, and peace, stability and economic growth have started to come in, I am ALL for it. Its about Pakistani people who need a better life, education and opportunity than anyone else.

By the way, always remember, you can NEVER eliminate 100% of ANYTHING bad. You can minimize it like 70-80%, which is happening already. Pakistan's number is down in the list of most corrupted nations, billions are being poured into projects by the World, which will help the average Pakistani and will take Pakistan forward. That's what matter.
I can pay some corrupt journalist whether its CNN or BBC and get my preferred argument on there. Proofs, statements and articles are VERY different things in the court of law!! In a free speech country, you can say anything you want to, whether on TV, Radio or sitting with two people.......beauty of human independence and democracy

 

[Sipahi]

You want to know the truth? I might get banned again but I'll write it as I stand for it. Zardari, Mushy and many others are corrupt. There were deals in between to let Mushy off the hook and the military will look the other way and will actually help Zardari in remaining "CLEAN" (thanks to Gen. KIyani and the 6 billion he made and has returned in November of last year) . Instead of Kiyani, they caught two "lower ranking officers" and put Kiyani's brother on top of the blame on ONE of the issues in Defense Housing

On NS, have they done corruption before in 90's? I am SURE they have. But have they been honest and wanting to build a legacy for their current rule with as clean slate and hard work as possible? Yes, that's true. And it is recognized by the world, if you haven't been following the billions pouring in. So as long as people with honesty are doing things for average Pakistanis, and peace, stability and economic growth have started to come in, I am ALL for it. Its about Pakistani people who need a better life, education and opportunity than anyone else.

By the way, always remember, you can NEVER eliminate 100% of ANYTHING bad. You can minimize it like 70-80%, which is happening already. Pakistan's number is down in the list of most corrupted nations, billions are being poured into projects by the World, which will help the average Pakistani and will take Pakistan forward. That's what matter.
I can pay some corrupt journalist whether its CNN or BBC and get my preferred argument on there. Proofs, statements and articles are VERY different things in the court of law!! In a free speech country, you can say anything you want to, whether on TV, Radio or sitting with two people.......beauty of human independence and democracy

If you recall Mr. Nawaz Sharif also made a deal with Mushy that he will not take part in politics for 10 years after mushy was to became 2nd Zia ul Haq chicken sharif

if you do research These shoutings of good governance and economic indicators and motorways were the same in 1998. They are here to serve there family business interest and they keep doing politik to safeguard these interest.

IMO, Zardari and Sharif Family is not interested in country but in business.