Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[lightning F57]

The problem Iran will face, in the face of a direct attack on it, its lack of air force. All these ground forces will get decimated as there is no way for Iran to have air superiority.

Saying that, I don't think Russia or China will allow Iran to be directly attacked. Despite Israel's attempts to do this I feel the war will be limited to proxies being attacked. I also think Iran at some point will declare they have nukes

Strategic speaking Russia depends on Iranian weapons to help them in their Ukraine war. China also can not see a Russian defeat there as the consequences will be huge for China visa verse Taiwan. Add to the fact China takes large amounts of oil from Iran and wouldn't tolerate that being affected its saving them billions.

So there is a high risk attacking Iran will draw both China and Russia in, to what extent will depend on how Iran is targeted.

 

[thetutle]

I agree with your theory that it takes a global power to create new countries.

I think that it is unacceptable that 2 billion Muslims, or 25% of the world’s population, should be so disenfranchised that they can be slaughtered for enjoyment.

The current system is unacceptable and needs to be overturned. The UN is a joke. International law is a joke. They’re creations of an era when the European colonialists thought they were masters and everyone else was a slave.

Today the current powers have been creating a world where ALL other civilizations can thrive but Muslims are kept down. That is unacceptable. Any international system that does not provide justice to 2 billion Muslims needs to be destroyed. Like I said, either Muslims will live in peace or no one will.

A very very good point.

UN was created by 5 world powers for their aims. It actually replaced traditional colonialism.

You can kill muslims at will and with very little consequence because they are the only ones that don't have a global power.

It would take something like Turkey, Iran and Pakstan to unite in order to get this global power. It's not gonna happen for a long time. You need at least 200 million to be a global power. Pakistan is too poor and disorganised. It needs to get up to turkeys standard of industrialisation before we can even discuss this.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717864209046733061

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[kingQamaR]

Sure,but not at that intensity and Netanyahu's government might have resigned and they might have gone for new elections.
There might have been a more moderate government come to power.

I've always spoken against Israel and IDF wrongdoings and condemned them. The problem is people see everything Hamas does as good and never criticize. Hamas would have been doing the same if they had all of Palestine,they would have tried to export their jihadist views like a typical MB branch.

No one can look at the genocide happening in real time in Gaza without feeling disgusted. At this point, anger shouldn't just be directed at Israel alone, but also at all the Western governments who are enabling it with weapons and unconditional diplomatic support, and even troops. Israel may be the hand that pulls the trigger, but it is with an American gun. The whole world knows this.
Israel can't do 10% of what it does to the Palestinian people without US support. Had it been any other country that's not Israel, or anyone else from the Western bloc doing what Israel is doing, the US would usually invade those countries for far less. Everyone should be sickened by what they see.

 

[thetutle]

Strategic speaking Russia depends on Iranian weapons to help them in their Ukraine war. China also can not see a Russian defeat there as the consequences will be huge for China visa verse Taiwan. Add to the fact China takes large amounts of oil from Iran and wouldn't tolerate that being affected its saving them billions.

So there is a high risk attacking Iran will draw both China and Russia in, to what extent will depend on how Iran is targeted.

Zero chance of this sadly.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717862946812874770

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[hussain0216]

No, look, you can only have a country if you have a global power backing you at some point. There are no countries in existence today without global power backing now or in the past.

If china or Russia or US or EU decided that there should be a Palestine, there will be a Palestine by next year.

Turkey, Iran and Pakistan are all regional powers and thats not enough to get a country today.

Wishes of Arab countries are irrelevant and not worth mentioning.

Relying on Iran to establish a country is not realistic sadly. If Iran really thinks it has the attributes of a global power and is able to create the country of Palestine, thats fine, and we will soon find out.

Just as an example. a country called "Peoples republic of Donetsk" is a country. It has an area it controls, you cant enter without their permission and has its own army and government. Noone can do aything about it. Because Russia said its a country. That all you need.

If china sends 2 aircraft carriers to deliver aid to Gaza and offloads peacekeepers, that very afternoon the war stops and the next day Palestine is declared a country. What is Israel going to do? attack? lol no. Thats how you get a country.

I don't think this Iranian strategy will work.


Look, I'm not sure thats the situation, Most muslim countries exist with approval of global powers. Most were indeed granted independence from these once global powers.

These minions which are muslim countries dont have the power to create a Palestine. None a global powers yet.

Israel is a country created by global powers. They will not abandon it until forced to by another global power. Wihout an islamic global power, winning a war and getting the global power to create a Palestine will be very very costly. Once there is a global islamic power, a Palestine will be created in a week.

You can become a global power individually or as a group of states

The E.U for example, as individual states they are increasingly limited with reducing global reach, hence the E.U as a block, their were even calls for a common European Army

But various influences especially from the U.S and the existence of NATO ended that



Muslim countries need to unite, the OIC for example is useless, a organization in name only

The point being IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE USELESS


What it needs is commitment from the individual states, and efforts to pool resources, support each other, give economic support

The GCC for example needs workers, rather then allowing hindus who are enemies in, they can attempt to get those workers from Muslim States, if that work force needs development then support each other other to develop it

The potential for a global unified Muslim block with immense power and influenced is their

What it needs is commitment

 

[ReasonableStar75]

Zero chance of this sadly.

Don t say 0, they are in the queue. I do not think this issue will end as other times. We are in a turning point development, we don t know how it would last, but this is not going to be a just a bombing campaign in Gaza.

Even Putin recognizes this can be more than south western asia.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

A major confession from the baby killing, big arse, settler colony of IsraHell

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717878407067742403

 

[thetutle]

Don t say 0, they are in the queue. I do not think this issue will end as other times. We are in a turning point development, we don t know how it would last, but this is not going to be a just a bombing campaign in Gaza.

Even Putin recognizes this can be more than south western asia.

it might be a turning point. Iran doesnt look ready. If they do attack Iran it will only help china. And buy china another 20 years.

 

[Musings]

You can become a global power individually or as a group of states

The E.U for example, as individual states they are increasingly limited with reducing global reach, hence the E.U as a block, their were even calls for a common European Army

But various influences especially from the U.S and the existence of NATO ended that



Muslim countries need to unite, the OIC for example is useless, a organization in name only

The point being IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE USELESS


What it needs is commitment from the individual states, and efforts to pool resources, support each other, give economic support

The GCC for example needs workers, rather then allowing hindus who are enemies in, they can attempt to get those workers from Muslim States, if that work force needs development then support each other other to develop it

The potential for a global unified Muslim block with immense power and influenced is their

What it needs is commitment

Excellent post. The problem is lack of leadership bro - lack of voice. Hell look at this thread and the occasional flare up with sects etc. no unity - allows the piss to be taken as we can see in Gaza

 

[ReasonableStar75]

it might be a turning point. Iran doesnt look ready. If they do attack Iran it will only help china. And buy china another 20 years.

We don t know shit. The fact it s Iran has involved themselves officially, i don t think Iran is silly.

 

[Tamerlane]

A very very good point.

UN was created by 5 world powers for their aims. It actually replaced traditional colonialism.

You can kill muslims at will and with very little consequence because they are the only ones that don't have a global power.

It would take something like Turkey, Iran and Pakstan to unite in order to get this global power. It's not gonna happen for a long time. You need at least 200 million to be a global power. Pakistan is too poor and disorganised. It needs to get up to turkeys standard of industrialisation before we can even discuss this.

Samual Huntington’s book ‘Clash of Civilizations’ made that point, that all the civilizations have a central country except Islam. The Muslim world is split into 57 countries, Arabs are split into 22 countries and there is no leader among them.

A few Muslim countries would need to get together to form the core of an Islamic union. Maybe Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Malaysia.

Even if we can have Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and Egypt that will be enough to get started. But it will require overthrowing illegal dictatorships in Egypt and Pakistan.

After seeing Muslim women and children being slaughtered by the Anglo-Zionists I hope that every single Muslim will start working towards that goal.

 

[Foinikas]

Israel can't do 10% of what it does to the Palestinian people without US support. Had it been any other country that's not Israel, or anyone else from the Western bloc doing what Israel is doing, the US would usually invade those countries for far less. Everyone should be sickened by what they see.

Of course,we would have had the usual narration of dictators and WMD.

 

[R2D2]

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