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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

I think Israel is trying to drag the neighboring countries into war to force US into the war as well. Other than some special forces and the Air Force Israeli soldiers are poorly trained and too scared to win a war on their own.

To me it looks like Israel wants a war between Iran and Nato, also between surrounding Arab States, so once they are weak, Israel then can be unchallenged in the middleeast and witness the dream of greater Israel.

If Arabs believe they can form a strong military by licking Israel boots, then they must be naive. Any strong state in the middleeast is a threat to Israel.
 
Palestinians need to expand the war as the enemy is concentrating at one point i.e. Gaza so as to divide their forces. Hezbollah is not joining the war. The Palestinians have to rely on themselves. They can do this by inviting other Palestinians in West Bank and inside Israel and maybe Lebanon too to start attacking the Zionist army, police and settlers.

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No, look, you can only have a country if you have a global power backing you at some point. There are no countries in existence today without global power backing now or in the past.

If china or Russia or US or EU decided that there should be a Palestine, there will be a Palestine by next year.

Turkey, Iran and Pakistan are all regional powers and thats not enough to get a country today.

Wishes of Arab countries are irrelevant and not worth mentioning.

Relying on Iran to establish a country is not realistic sadly. If Iran really thinks it has the attributes of a global power and is able to create the country of Palestine, thats fine, and we will soon find out.

Just as an example. a country called "Peoples republic of Donetsk" is a country. It has an area it controls, you cant enter without their permission and has its own army and government. Noone can do aything about it. Because Russia said its a country. That all you need.

If china sends 2 aircraft carriers to deliver aid to Gaza and offloads peacekeepers, that very afternoon the war stops and the next day Palestine is declared a country. What is Israel going to do? attack? lol no. Thats how you get a country.

I don't think this Iranian strategy will work.

Muslims need to be clear about one thing. This is not about Palestine only. This is an attack on every single Muslim in the world. What they’re doing to Palestinians they would love to do to each and every Muslim in the world. The way they’re killing Palestinian women and children they would love to kill YOUR women and children if they could. ‘They’ are the Israelis and US Jews and their supporters in US/UK and EU and other hangers on like the pajeets.

The will kill your women and children if they can.

Therefore, all the Muslims in the world need to defend themselves. If Muslims can’t get justice in this world then bring the whole world down. If Muslims can’t be safe then let no one in this world be safe.

You who believe, do not take for your intimates such outsiders as spare no effort to ruin you and want to see you suffer: their hatred is evident from their mouths, but what their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made Our revelations clear for you; will you not use your reason? Quran (3:118)
Look, I'm not sure thats the situation, Most muslim countries exist with approval of global powers. Most were indeed granted independence from these once global powers.

These minions which are muslim countries dont have the power to create a Palestine. None a global powers yet.

Israel is a country created by global powers. They will not abandon it until forced to by another global power. Wihout an islamic global power, winning a war and getting the global power to create a Palestine will be very very costly. Once there is a global islamic power, a Palestine will be created in a week.
 
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No, look, you can only have a country if you have a global power backing you at some point. There are no countries in existence today without global power backing now or in the past.

If china or Russia or US or EU decided that there should be a Palestine, there will be a Palestine by next year.

Turkey, Iran and Pakistan are all regional powers and thats not enough to get a country today.

Wishes of Arab countries are irrelevant and not worth mentioning.

Relying on Iran to establish a country is not realistic sadly. If Iran really thinks it has the attributes of a global power and is able to create the country of Palestine, thats fine, and we will soon find out.

Just as an example. a country called "Peoples republic of Donetsk" is a country. It has an area it controls, you cant enter without their permission and has its own army and government. Noone can do aything about it. Because Russia said its a country. That all you need.

If china sends 2 aircraft carriers to deliver aid to Gaza and offloads peacekeepers, that very afternoon the war stops and the next day Palestine is declared a country. What is Israel going to do? attack? lol no. Thats how you get a country.

I don't think this Iranian strategy will work.


Look, I'm not sure thats the situation, Most muslim countries exist with approval of global powers. Most were indeed granted independence from these once global powers.

These minions which are muslim countries dont have the power to create a Palestine. None a global powers yet.

Israel is a country created by global powers. They will not abandon it until forced to by another global power. Wihout an islamic global power, winning a war and getting the global power to create a Palestine will be very very costly. Once there is a global islamic power, a Palestine will be created in a week.
Afghanistan was liberated from USA without a global power at their back. Secondly, I have asked Palestinians to rely on themselves and not on Hezbollah or the Iranians. I have suggested to expand the war to the West Bank and inside Israel.
 
Afghanistan was liberated from USA without a global power at their back. Secondly, I have asked Palestinians to rely on themselves and not on Hezbollah or the Iranians. I have suggested to expand the war to the West Bank and inside Israel.
Afganistan was created by a global power. Britain. It fought a war and was eventually freed. It had backing of Russia and Ottomans, which were both global powers at the time. So it is now a country. It had backing of Global powers to exist.

The fact that other global powers conquer ti from time to time and want to change their government is a different mater. Nobody has sought to annex Afghanistan and kick the people out. Afghanistan has the backing of global powers to exist and be created.

Palestine doesnt. It never did.

Citizenship? They were taken to camps and worked to death or exterminated.
Yet survivors everywhere. you are the one that said they has citizenship. I was quoting you.
We're not talking about Jews involved in combat.
Neither was I. Listen it's ok if you go back to your hole and we leave each other alone.
 
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The problem Iran will face, in the face of a direct attack on it, its lack of air force. All these ground forces will get decimated as there is no way for Iran to have air superiority.

Saying that, I don't think Russia or China will allow Iran to be directly attacked. Despite Israel's attempts to do this I feel the war will be limited to proxies being attacked. I also think Iran at some point will declare they have nukes
 
Israel is a country created by global powers. They will not abandon it until forced to by another global power. Wihout an islamic global power, winning a war and getting the global power to create a Palestine will be very very costly. Once there is a global islamic power, a Palestine will be created in a week.

I agree with your theory that it takes a global power to create new countries.

I think that it is unacceptable that 2 billion Muslims, or 25% of the world’s population, should be so disenfranchised that they can be slaughtered for enjoyment.

The current system is unacceptable and needs to be overturned. The UN is a joke. International law is a joke. They’re creations of an era when the European colonialists thought they were masters and everyone else was a slave.

Today the current powers have been creating a world where ALL other civilizations can thrive but Muslims are kept down. That is unacceptable. Any international system that does not provide justice to 2 billion Muslims needs to be destroyed. Like I said, either Muslims will live in peace or no one will.
 
I can see your comprehension problem right there with the incessant bombing of civilian areas by the Israhell army. You were rubbing your balls over Ukraine thread when it was Russia doing it. Geneva convention my ***.
That sweden democratic party supporter is one of the biggest hypocrites on this forum.
 
The problem Iran will face, in the face of a direct attack on it, its lack of air force. All these ground forces will get decimated as there is no way for Iran to have air superiority
This is very obvious to everyone who knows anything.
Saying that, I don't think Russia or China will allow Iran to be directly attacked. Despite Israel's attempts to do this I feel the war will be limited to proxies being attacked. I also think Iran at some point will declare they have nukes
Russia will help carve Iran up, and take its piece if it gets to that. It will absolutely do nothing to help Iran. It will act like in syria. Let US take its part, russia will take what they feel is theirs.

The only way Iran avoids the same fate as syria, is nukes. I am not sure they realise this. North Korea does. Iran does not it seems.
 

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