Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[kuge]

hi guys, how to upload a video from telegram?

 

[aviator_fan]

Ok....then why are you Muslims crying now when Israel has started the war?violence is never an answer to any problem..I said earlier when this terrorist attack happened .am saying now again ...Hamas or muslims have lost Gaza forever by indulging in such a mindless violence....they didn't expect such a massive retaliation from Israel

From a Hindu thats spent his last 1000 years being occupied by one power or another, your comments are irrelevant. Hama's approach of killing civilians is not justified, but to think that they didn't expect this sort of response is immature. Hamas took a calculated bet and its calculation is based on the fact that PA will collapse in the face of what happens in Gaza and the rest of the dictator regimes in ARab world will chose their survival vs. choosing to go with the pro-Israel policies they would have had. The crying you claim is sympathy for any civlians caught in a cross fire.

Why have you Indians not succeeded in any material military developments: your soldiers had black eyes (literally) by the Chinese, and the Tamil's kicked you out of Sri Lanka in the 80s.

 

[Jango]

In other words, Iran is hostile to Israel because of Muslim fellowship, not because Israel did anything harmful to Iran. I just want to get this on the record.

And that is important because...?

 

[aviator_fan]

I think you got it wrong.

The chance for peace died not just cause of Hamas , the final straw was when It was discovered that Arafat too returned to the Armed strugle.

Are we are responsible for, as you say " Corupting the PLO " , Come on , we are responsinle that some Plestinans are currupt ? That is simply evading responsibility .

Settling beyond the 1967 borfers was indeed a historical mistake , those territories should have been kept as a bargaining chip for peace. You may be surprise to you, but we have idiots in our country too.

Now we see rounds of conflicts with each round getting more violent. But nothing changes.

The same attitude can be seen in this discussion.

How many here , stay sleepness at night to come up with ideas how to solve this conflict that is effecting the whole world ?

Seems many here think that demonising the other side . throwing blame , spreading racial and religous hate , would make things better.

When someone shots an arrow at you , the first thing you do , is not start an investigation on who shot that arrow. First thing you do , is to pull that dam arrow from your chest.

And this is what this comflict is , An arrow in the heart of the world.


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PA leaders are corrupt, but you Israel bought them to expand its settlements and for PA leaders to get privilege and suppress its population. Oslo accords weren't respected by the Israelis: number of settlers in eastern israel quadrapuled since the accord.

Ultimately your future generations have to decide: do you want to live a sustainable peaceful live by making comprimises in a two state solution or continue to expand, in which case the only friends in the region will be the fish in the Med and every few years there will be devastation like this.

 

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[AZMwi]

THE AUSTRIAN PAINTER WAS RIGHT ABOUT THEM

 

[Vapnope]

Where is the proof that this hospital bombing was done by Israel? Israel is denying it
Yesterday itself the entire world saw a video of Hamas terrorists riding on bikes ,going around ,entering houses and shootin people at will ..they have taken people hostage ...there are videos of them shooting people who are partying..
And you are asking where are the proofs...you are blinded by religion.
Anyway Israel has released the pics of those babies ..some are riddled with bullets ..and some are burnt but you call them Israeli conspiracy. No evidence can convince people who are blinded by religion.

And since hamas is bad, Israel decided to drop 6000 bombs on Palestinian civilians? Since Hamas is bad so it is justifiable that Israel brings in 700,000 illegal settlers in Palestinian lands?
And yes no evidence can convince people who are blinded by their hate for Muslims even after UN, WHO, Amnesty and other human right orgs have repeatedly shared evidence of Israeli war crimes and illegal activities.

 

[khansaheeb]

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You definitely are a jew.

Inhumane Israel kills hundreds in strike on Gaza hospital

Health ministry says at least 500 killed; 3 days of mourning in Palestine; Biden to visit Israel today; aid yet to arrive in Gaza as Rafah crossing remains shut.

www.dawn.com

Inhumane Israel kills hundreds in strike on hospital​

Agencies Published October 18, 2023 Updated 18 minutes ago




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Children injured in an Israeli air strike react as they receive treatment in Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip, on Tuesday. Authorities fear hundreds more are buried under the rubble.—AFP

GAZA STRIP: Hundreds of Palestinians were killed on Tuesday when Israel carried out air strikes on a hospital and a refugee camp in Gaza, where people had sought shelter to escape the relentless bombing on residential areas, according to the health ministry.
The strikes came as world leaders intensified efforts to find a solution to the crisis, which has already resulted in the killing of over 3,000 Palestinians in Israeli strikes across the Gaza Strip since Oct 7.

A health ministry official in Gaza said at least 500 were killed in the Israeli air strikes on the yard“ of the Ahli Arab hospital in central Gaza. “Hundreds of victims are still under the rubble,” it added.
The media office of Gaza’s government described it as a “war crime”.

Three days of mourning in Palestine; Biden to visit Israel today; aid yet to arrive in Gaza as Rafah crossing remains shut

“The hospital was housing hundreds of sick and wounded, and people forcibly displaced from their homes” because of other strikes, a statement said.



Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari told a televised press briefing: “We will look into it… the strike happened just a short while ago.”
Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas has declared three days of mourning after the “hospital massacre” in Gaza.

A Palestinian child injured in an Israeli air strike is carried inside the Nasser hospital in Khan Yunis in the southern of Gaza Strip, on October 17. — AFP

Earlier in the day, an Israeli strike killed at least six people sheltering in the Al-Maghazi refugee camp inside a school, the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees said.
UNRWA commissioner-general Philippe Lazzarini called the bombing at Al-Maghazi refugee camp, in central Gaza, “outrageous” and warned the death toll would likely rise.
“It again shows a flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians. No place is safe in Gaza anymore, not even UNRWA facilities,” he added.
Gaza’s interior ministry said at least 49 Palestinians were also killed in an overnight Israeli strike that hit homes in Khan Yunis and Rafah.
Condemnations
Canada, Egypt, Qatar, Turkiye, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran and WHO have denounced the air strikes on the Ahli Arab hospital, and called upon the international community for intervention to stop such violations.

Children sit in the back of an ambulance at Shifa Hospital after an Israeli air strike hit the nearby Al-Ahli Hospital, according to Gaza Health Ministry in Gaza City, Gaza Strip, October 17. — Reuters

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the deadly Israeli strike was “the latest example devoid of the most basic human values”.

Screengrab of Google-translated post by Erdogan.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has called the Israeli strike on the hospital “horrific and absolutely unacceptable”.
Trudeau told reporters that “it’s not acceptable to hit a hospital”.






Egypt’s foreign ministry also released a statement condemning the strike.
Hospitals in Gaza were already at a “breaking point” as tens of thousands of families have flocked there for refuge.
The WHO said 111 medical buildings have been hit by Israel, with 12 medical workers dead and 60 ambulances targeted.
The UN health agency stated: “WHO strongly condemns the attack on Al Ahli Arab Hospital. The hospital was one of 20 in the north of the Gaza Strip facing evacuation orders from the Israeli military.



“The order for evacuation has been impossible to carry out given the current insecurity, critical condition of many patients, and lack of ambulances, staff, health system bed capacity, and alternative shelter for those displaced.”
Diplomatic efforts

People gather around bodies of Palestinians killed in Israeli air strikes on a hospital in Gaza Strip, on Tuesday.—AFP

The atrocities by Israeli forces continued on the eve of US President Joe Biden’s visit to the Middle East.
The US President’s visit to Israel on Wednesday will be a show of “ironclad” support as Washington tries to prevent the escalating war against Hamas in Gaza from spilling into a wider Middle East conflict.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who has been shuttling between Middle Eastern countries, announced Biden’s planned visit at the end of hours of talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in which he said the Israeli leader had agreed to develop a plan to get humanitarian aid to Gaza civilians. He gave no details.
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is also set to visit Israel this week, Sky News reported on Tuesday.
Jordan’s King Abdullah on Tuesday held a meeting with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin.
He warned against trying to push Palestinian refugees into Egypt or Jordan, adding that the humanitarian situation must be dealt with inside Gaza and the West Bank.
“That is a red line, because I think that is the plan by certain of the usual suspects to try and create de facto issues on the ground. No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt,” King Abdullah said.
Meanwhile, Egypt will host a summit of state leaders to discuss the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on Saturday, Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said.
Relief efforts
Relief goods have yet to make their way into Gaza as the only crossing into the enclave not controlled by Israel, was still closed in absence of an agreement to deliver the aid.

An injured person is assisted after an Israeli air strike hit At Al-Ahli Hospital, according to Gaza Health Ministry in Gaza City, Gaza Strip, October 17. — Reuters

Egypt has said the Rafah crossing, a key route for desperately needed supplies, has not been officially closed but has become inoperable due to the Israeli air strikes on the Gaza side.
The World Health Organisation has said it needed urgent access to Gaza to deliver aid and medical supplies.



Early on Tuesday some 160 trucks left Al-Arish in Egypt’s Sinai peninsula, where loads of aid have been awaiting an agreement on aid delivery, a witness told Reuters.
The UN’s World Food Programme said the food situation in the besieged and blockaded Gaza Strip was worsening, with only four or five days of stocks left in the shops.
WFP said stocks were getting low in warehouses inside the Palestinian enclave, but at the shop level, the situation was even more acute.
“The situation in Gaza is getting worse by the minute: the humanitarian situation but also of course the food security situation,” WFP’s Middle East spokeswoman told reporters.
Published in Dawn, October 18th, 2023

 

[dBSPL]

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Illustrations, again? Oh, and second-rate animated things, videos...

This shouldn't be the only thing that can be done...


I'm sorry, it's not about you, but that illustration really disgusted me. Let's leave aside the fact that it is not an Islamic depiction, it is a show of impotence, nothing else.

 

[gambit]

And that is important because...?

Because Iran used it to justify hostility against Israel.

If I hit you, or toss trash into your yard, or stole from your business, there is ZERO degree of separation between us. This level of involvement have been the accepted rule to justify hostility between parties. The more degrees of separation, the harder it is to justify.

Israel have not harmed Iran, in fact, Israel helped Iran during the Iran-Iraq War. Khomeini hated Israel before he came to power, and after he came to rule Iran after the 1979 revolution, he made it official that Iran would go to war against Israel. So in order to justify this hostility, you had to find another way, something intangible.

 

[kuge]

You definitely are a jew.

Inhumane Israel kills hundreds in strike on Gaza hospital

Health ministry says at least 500 killed; 3 days of mourning in Palestine; Biden to visit Israel today; aid yet to arrive in Gaza as Rafah crossing remains shut.

www.dawn.com

Inhumane Israel kills hundreds in strike on hospital​

Agencies Published October 18, 2023 Updated 18 minutes ago




0
LISTEN TO ARTICLE1x1.2x1.5x

Children injured in an Israeli air strike react as they receive treatment in Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip, on Tuesday. Authorities fear hundreds more are buried under the rubble.—AFP

GAZA STRIP: Hundreds of Palestinians were killed on Tuesday when Israel carried out air strikes on a hospital and a refugee camp in Gaza, where people had sought shelter to escape the relentless bombing on residential areas, according to the health ministry.
The strikes came as world leaders intensified efforts to find a solution to the crisis, which has already resulted in the killing of over 3,000 Palestinians in Israeli strikes across the Gaza Strip since Oct 7.

A health ministry official in Gaza said at least 500 were killed in the Israeli air strikes on the yard“ of the Ahli Arab hospital in central Gaza. “Hundreds of victims are still under the rubble,” it added.
The media office of Gaza’s government described it as a “war crime”.




“The hospital was housing hundreds of sick and wounded, and people forcibly displaced from their homes” because of other strikes, a statement said.



Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari told a televised press briefing: “We will look into it… the strike happened just a short while ago.”
Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas has declared three days of mourning after the “hospital massacre” in Gaza.

A Palestinian child injured in an Israeli air strike is carried inside the Nasser hospital in Khan Yunis in the southern of Gaza Strip, on October 17. — AFP

Earlier in the day, an Israeli strike killed at least six people sheltering in the Al-Maghazi refugee camp inside a school, the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees said.
UNRWA commissioner-general Philippe Lazzarini called the bombing at Al-Maghazi refugee camp, in central Gaza, “outrageous” and warned the death toll would likely rise.
“It again shows a flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians. No place is safe in Gaza anymore, not even UNRWA facilities,” he added.
Gaza’s interior ministry said at least 49 Palestinians were also killed in an overnight Israeli strike that hit homes in Khan Yunis and Rafah.
Condemnations
Canada, Egypt, Qatar, Turkiye, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran and WHO have denounced the air strikes on the Ahli Arab hospital, and called upon the international community for intervention to stop such violations.

Children sit in the back of an ambulance at Shifa Hospital after an Israeli air strike hit the nearby Al-Ahli Hospital, according to Gaza Health Ministry in Gaza City, Gaza Strip, October 17. — Reuters

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the deadly Israeli strike was “the latest example devoid of the most basic human values”.

Screengrab of Google-translated post by Erdogan.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has called the Israeli strike on the hospital “horrific and absolutely unacceptable”.
Trudeau told reporters that “it’s not acceptable to hit a hospital”.






Egypt’s foreign ministry also released a statement condemning the strike.
Hospitals in Gaza were already at a “breaking point” as tens of thousands of families have flocked there for refuge.
The WHO said 111 medical buildings have been hit by Israel, with 12 medical workers dead and 60 ambulances targeted.
The UN health agency stated: “WHO strongly condemns the attack on Al Ahli Arab Hospital. The hospital was one of 20 in the north of the Gaza Strip facing evacuation orders from the Israeli military.



“The order for evacuation has been impossible to carry out given the current insecurity, critical condition of many patients, and lack of ambulances, staff, health system bed capacity, and alternative shelter for those displaced.”
Diplomatic efforts

People gather around bodies of Palestinians killed in Israeli air strikes on a hospital in Gaza Strip, on Tuesday.—AFP

The atrocities by Israeli forces continued on the eve of US President Joe Biden’s visit to the Middle East.
The US President’s visit to Israel on Wednesday will be a show of “ironclad” support as Washington tries to prevent the escalating war against Hamas in Gaza from spilling into a wider Middle East conflict.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who has been shuttling between Middle Eastern countries, announced Biden’s planned visit at the end of hours of talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in which he said the Israeli leader had agreed to develop a plan to get humanitarian aid to Gaza civilians. He gave no details.
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is also set to visit Israel this week, Sky News reported on Tuesday.
Jordan’s King Abdullah on Tuesday held a meeting with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin.
He warned against trying to push Palestinian refugees into Egypt or Jordan, adding that the humanitarian situation must be dealt with inside Gaza and the West Bank.
“That is a red line, because I think that is the plan by certain of the usual suspects to try and create de facto issues on the ground. No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt,” King Abdullah said.
Meanwhile, Egypt will host a summit of state leaders to discuss the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on Saturday, Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said.
Relief efforts
Relief goods have yet to make their way into Gaza as the only crossing into the enclave not controlled by Israel, was still closed in absence of an agreement to deliver the aid.

An injured person is assisted after an Israeli air strike hit At Al-Ahli Hospital, according to Gaza Health Ministry in Gaza City, Gaza Strip, October 17. — Reuters

Egypt has said the Rafah crossing, a key route for desperately needed supplies, has not been officially closed but has become inoperable due to the Israeli air strikes on the Gaza side.
The World Health Organisation has said it needed urgent access to Gaza to deliver aid and medical supplies.



Early on Tuesday some 160 trucks left Al-Arish in Egypt’s Sinai peninsula, where loads of aid have been awaiting an agreement on aid delivery, a witness told Reuters.
The UN’s World Food Programme said the food situation in the besieged and blockaded Gaza Strip was worsening, with only four or five days of stocks left in the shops.
WFP said stocks were getting low in warehouses inside the Palestinian enclave, but at the shop level, the situation was even more acute.
“The situation in Gaza is getting worse by the minute: the humanitarian situation but also of course the food security situation,” WFP’s Middle East spokeswoman told reporters.
Published in Dawn, October 18th, 2023

it looks like a misfired missile that hit the hospital from Gaza.

 

[Clutch]

Illustrations, again? Oh, and second-rate animated things, videos...

This shouldn't be the only thing that can be done...


I'm sorry, it's not about you, but that illustration really disgusted me. Let's leave aside the fact that it is not an Islamic depiction, it is a show of impotence, nothing else.

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[Musings]

it looks like a misfired missile that hit the hospital from Gaza.

No it doesn’t - it looks like the Israeli wanting to kill innocent Palestinians - to install complete fear - to eradicate the problem for them - a bit like Hitler did. I think the experience left them perhaps scared.
I’m no fan of Hamas - but the Israeli are certainly the lowest form of human and easily capable of this.

 

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[dBSPL]

Q: You said you've seen the news, there's been an attack on a hospital in the last hour in which hundreds of people have died. Is there no concern in the Department of Defense that you are part of this or that you might be militarily involved in possible war crimes against civilians while providing military assistance?

Answer: Bla bla, we will continue to kiss Netenyahu's ***.

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