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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Only solution to this regional conflict is that both parties accept a 2 state solution, with Hamas dismantle and Palestinian security given to UN Peace keeping force. Israel must end all illegal settlements and remove the check posts and walls from Gaza, any attack from other side in future, other side must give some time to the country to act or punish the culprit, this issue is not hard to solve its only Hard because Europeans and Americans are throwing gasoline into the already raging fire.
 
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This is genocidal. It's carpet bombing on the live stream very clearly. Jewish ISIS is genocidal and must be exterminated.

Islamic world will explode against Jewish ISIS any moment.

But if they start ground war without taking down tall buildings, they will be swatted down like ants. Which idiot will enter a built-up area for urban warfare with tall buildings around? This is how Hamas planned it. They knew there will be a lot of damage when the war starts.
 
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Israel is dropping bunker buster bombs on civilian homes. This is official. That's the giant airstrike I just witnessed on the livestream. Supporters of Israel hang your heads in shame.


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The occupation uses winged missiles to bomb Gaza. These are missiles that the American army used to bomb mountainous areas in Afghanistan.

 
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"Our hearts go out to the Israeli people, including the 15 percent Palestinian people who are also Israeli citizens with full, equal rights. This attack set back relations for those in area to levels not seen in many years. To rationalize this terror attack in any way shows a complete disconnect from facts. One can say Palestinian history in last 100 years was not fair, and I’ll agree. In 48, they had a chance at a 2 state solution but turned it down do to pressure, greed, ignorance, racism? That’s when Israel began it’s right to self defence. Sure, Jordan lost West Bank, price it paid for aggression, Syria the Yolanda, also a price to be paid for aggression. Egypt lost Sinai then got it back, the price Israel paid for peace, gaza……that’s what was given to the Palestinian people displaced by not only Israel, but Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria. All parties are part of Palestinian problem. But only Israel is targeted. Because of religion. Simple but true. The PLO held back Palestinian progress, until Oslo accords. Now Hamas has reversed any progress. The death of its own is on those Hamas leaders, and it’s supporters. Any support in western countries like Canada, UK and Australia, where freedoms are a right, are abused to spew hate….. if u support hate and violence, then go to Gaza, leave Canada, US, UK and rest, we don’t want your hate. Sad, that many of the dead where supporters of Palestinian people. Now, that support in Israel is gone. You Hamas, you opened up a wound not seen since WW2 on Jews of the world. It cannot be reversed, it’s now a gaping wound, festering and needs to be cleansed. Only then can Israel heal."

Much more sanity from random YT commentary then on most of these pages in that thread.
Now that sounds more like the sort of utter bullsh!t one would expect of your typical "conservative" right-wing type european zionist sympathizer.

And frankly I have to say that its pretty nauseating to read.....and thats putting it very mildly.
 
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....umm...Muslim countries already are not buying much from il, so that's not going to make much difference at all.

No Muslim country, except for the ungratefully gifted ones with abundant oil reserves does anything to grow influence in the world theater, but even those are in their own fantasy land, already in bed behind closed doors with il.

Instead of hurting, why can't any of them become a hub for a specialty the world needs?

For example, China is the center of manufacturing, the US among others is the center of tech companies, and India is the hub of creeps...sorry rapists... sorry scams/ frauds...sorry call centers....sorry cheap labor, yea that's the one.

Which Muslim country excels in anything but corruption? Pakistan thanks to Chutulu is albeit strongest among them but has little to no influence, a place where the work day starts at noon and ends 4 hrs later? What is any of them producing for the world?

Our history, otomans, muguls, and so on have been lazy drunk fcks.
they buy inderectly, all computers and phones by western brands, for example, are deeply connected with israel influence and ownership.
HUAWEI should be proped up as they do not have single component which could be related in chain to the israel.
 
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Very interesting analysis:

Israel ‘wants to injure Hamas but it doesn’t want to destroy Hamas’

Analysts have told Al Jazeera that Israel has no intention of destroying Hamas and that the continuing bombardment of Gaza will change nothing in the long term.

“The Israeli government has said that this will be a turning point. But I think, when the eventual ceasefire arrives, nothing will really change in the long term,” Martin Kear, Middle East analyst at the University of Sydney, said.

“Hamas will certainly be injured. I think Israel will seek to destroy as much of Hamas as possible while keeping enough of Hamas viable to administer the Gaza Strip.

“Israel, under my estimation, does not want to occupy Gaza, that will create an untenable security situation for Israel that it will not be prepared to be subjected to. It wants to injure Hamas but it doesn’t want to destroy Hamas,” he added.
Interesting take. But why would they mobilize so many reservists and why all the nato planes flying in military aid? Why the US air craft carrier in the region? This makes it seem like a ground invasion is very likely. Hamas won’t die in any ground invasion imo. The bombing Israel is doing right now and a ground invasion will instead create far more hardcore fighters who have revenge ingrained in them. Sinai in Egypt has always had an issue with militancy and the border is mostly controlled by government supported tribals. Imo Hamas or any other Palestinian org will just make Sinai its base and launch attacks from in into Gaza. This could be why Egypt is hesitant to take any refuges from Gaza in. Whatever is the outcome one thing is for sure, the type of bombing israel is doing in Gaza right now will increase support of armed resistance by ten fold and they’ll be fuelled by their thrust for revenge. We might even see Hamas create new alliances with more hardcore groups already present in Sinai like AQ aligned groups.
 
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they buy inderectly, all computers and phones by western brands, for example, are deeply connected with israel influence and ownership.
HUAWEI should be proped up as they do not have single component which could be related in chain to the israel.

So let's say 1 billion people stopped buying tech all of a sudden and now are back into the 1800s, whose loss is this really?

Again buy this not that, making excuses, why not invest in producing something useable at home? What if tomorrow HUAEWI entered into a partnership with il? I mean what insanity are we talking about here?
 
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My guess:
1. Immediate goal is soften Gaza for urban warfare, send ground troops and eliminate Hamas. Not that different from U.S. actions in Iraq and Afghanistan
2. Long term plan is to prevent Hamas regrouping. Since tunnels were probably the mode of bringing weapons, Gaza will become a two dimensional place so that it can be easily surveiled.
That's exactly wt Hamas n the rest of the Palestinian groups want....to bring isreal foot soldiers into ghaza.....which will bring some semblance of parity to the fighting.....where Hamas would also stand a chance to kill isrealis.
At this point its all isreals loss as the Palestinians have been at the loosing side for the last 70 + years...now they are at a point where they have nothing else to loose down to a child
 
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Going to bed guys. Please report on these three things while I'm gone:


1.) 40 dead babies hoax. No babies dead at all. Let alone beheaded

2.) Use of cluster bombs, bunker buster bombs, and white phosphorus on Gaza civilians

3.) Updates from Palestinians on the ground. Do not believe Israel about anything. Watch the food, water and medical supply situation and deliberate targeting and genocide of the people.

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