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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

There are no prisoners. It's a hoax, a fabrication to justify the attacks by the apartheid forces. If you're family is kidnapped and taken into a house, is it logical to bomb the house? Nobody will believe this logic except slumdogs.


They say “just lay down your arms” but when Palestinians try to live in peace, they are being pushed out by settlers in the West Bank, under “Fatah Rule”. Now Israel will claim it’s not Israel but settlers.

These are both clips from the past few days.

 
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He said some politically unwise things (for Israelis). But if a relatively 'neutral' like from UAE or Saudi Arabia want to talk, would they be rebuffed too?

Israel clearly has the backing of the West for now. If you follow the news, Israel even rejected the ceasefire deal from Hamas. That indicates this war will continue for a long run. Arabs should be prepared for war-like situations in their neighborhood till next year.
 
You sound like you live in a world of your own. Other day you were calling Palestinians, random people. Nobody is random, every individual is special to someone.
I never said they are 'random'. I was trying to explain why Arab states are not joining the war. For them, Palestinians are 'others', in the sense that, they don't want to risk their countries interest. Support, help, sympathy - Yes; risking their own life and survival - No. That was the distinction I was making. Is there a better explanation for why they are sitting out? Reams have been written here by people perplexed by why the war hasn't widened after nearly a month. My answer is, for everybody other than Gazans and Israelis, it is somebody else's war.
 
Azerbaijan also invaded the Armenian land of Nagorno-Karabakh with the help of colonial Iran and then colonial Russia.
Armenian people were living in Nagorno Karabakh for thousands of years till the Azery Government started to settle Azeries there to change the demographics.

Are you able to see your double standards when you blame Israelis for invading Palestine, but don't blame Azeris for the same thing?

Turkey killed millions in the Armenian Genocide and made the whole area of Western Armenia a part of Turkey. Again you are unable to see your double standards where you blame only Jews for being racists and invaders, but utter no words against the same things that your Muslim brothers did on a much bigger level.

I have no love affair with the wrongdoings of Israel and Zionists. I would have opposed a Zionist state in 1948. But today Israel is a reality, just like it is a reality that the historic Western Armenia is a part of Turkey, or just like Pakistan is a reality and no more a part of India, even if the British conspired against the majority of the population of India of that time and created Pakistan against their wish.

The situation of today is clear, there should exist no Muslim Palestinian State under the influence of Hamas, where non-Muslims have to live under fear and have no equal rights to preach their religion and convert people to their religion and to criticize Islam. Where LGBT members are thrown down from high buildings while they also don't have any rights to exist. Where ex-Muslims are lynched and killed brutally for their crime of leaving Islam. Why should we ever support such oppressive Islamic states? Why should we not criticize the double standards of Muslims where they are quick to demand equal rights to preach Islam and convert people to Islam in non-Muslim countries, but are not ready to give us the same human rights?

You want to talk about racism and phobia of Jews, then let us also talk about double standards and homophobia and Murtadphobia and Kafirophobia of Muslims.


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You're not someone who can lecture on anything to do with human rights, why are you worried about faith, and you don't need to be offended by that religious terminology for Jew phobia or derogatory terms.
 
Israel clearly has the backing of the West for now. If you follow the news, Israel even rejected the ceasefire deal from Hamas. That indicates this war will continue for a long run. Arabs should be prepared for war-like situations in their neighborhood till next year.
Israel rejecting ceasefire 'deal' from Hamas is less worrisome than they may be not agreeing to a request for pause from U.S. (and others) to see if something besides open ended warfare has a chance.
 
I never said they are 'random'. I was trying to explain why Arab states are not joining the war. For them, Palestinians are 'others', in the sense that, they don't want to risk their countries interest. Support, help, sympathy - Yes; risking their own life and survival - No. That was the distinction I was making. Is there a better explanation for why they are sitting out? Reams have been written here by people perplexed by why the war hasn't widened after nearly a month. My answer is, for everybody other than Gazans and Israelis, it is somebody else's war.
It is not somebody else's war for Arabs. Familiarize yourself with history. Gaza was occupied by Egypt and West Bank by Jordan prior to Israel. Did you read the Amnesty report. Israel is the world's severest human rights violater, and you are equating it with America.
 
It is not somebody else's war for Arabs. Familiarize yourself with history. Egypt and Jordan occupied Gaza and West Bank prior to Israel.

Did you read the Amnesty report. Do not compare America with Israel.
Egypt and Jordan made it their war before; they don't want to repeat it. Yes, I did read the report. I am familiar with the issues. Sadly, we had horrible things like that happen in our country's history too.
 
There are no prisoners. It's a hoax, a fabrication to justify the attacks by the apartheid forces. If you're family is kidnapped and taken into a house, is it logical to bomb the house? Nobody will believe this logic except slumdogs.



IDF Soldier:

"The only innocent people that are in Gaza now are the 229 hostages that were taken. Once they will go, back to Israel, we will bomb Shifa hospital, all the hospitals, all the tunnels and kill them all. It's about time. The world knows that, there's no arguing about that, we are the center of the world now..."



🤮🤮🤮🖕🖕🖕😡😡😡 IF ZIONIST JEWS DO NOT CARE ABOUT PALESTINIAN LIVES, THE WORLD SHOULD NOT CARE FOR ZIONIST.

IF ONLY HITLER DID A COMPLETE JOB AND ERADICATE ALL JEWS AS JEWS UNFIT TO LIVE WITH HUMANS IN THE WORLD.
🤮🤮🤮


ALL ISRAELI JEWS ARE PSYCOPATHS
 
Doesn't make sense. 1,500 terrorists needed to kidnap 20-30 people? Doesn't pass laugh test. Looks like buyer's remorse.
The terrorists are the Israelis. 1,500 Palestinian soldiers to do a strike on the Gaza division which is at least triple that size and backed by a Air Force and armor. Makes plenty of sense. Your sarcasm is because you'd like to peddle the Israeli narrative.
 

Turkey is not an oil producing state; the oil from Azerbaijan is only transmitted through their Ceyhan port. So if this oil flow were to be stopped, it should be tried on the Azerbaijani side and not on the Turkiye side.

Besides, based on the info published in the below link, Israel also receives its oil from other sources such as Gabon, Nigeria, Brazil, Kazakhstan, Egypt, and Kurdistan - Northern Iraq even though it is suspended now.


There is also an oil deal between Israel and UAE through the Eilat port. The attacks from Houthis in Yemen against Eilat should be understood in this context. They want to hurt two birds with 1 stone.


Bottom line, the campaign to stop oil to the apartheid state should be broadly looked at instead of just focusing on Turkiye - which is NOT even an oil producing state.
 

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