Future of Pakistan Bangladesh relations

[Skies]

Isn't Pakistan a country of many ethnic groups? Bangladesh on the other hand is a largely homogeneous society.

Still we do not have friendly relation with the tribal people in Chittagong Track. We can not go to that region without fear and concern.

So I can understand why there is a conflict in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc. among ethnic people.

On the other hand, USA has all types of people.

In New York people from 250 countries live peacefully.

We need strong democracy, governance and mutual respect.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

Pakistan is home to a mix of people and 5 provinces. Each province has its own unique provincial language and culture. 1) Gilgit Baltistan (newly or still in the process of being formed into a province) beautiful mountainous region borders China. 2) Punjab Provincial capital: Lahore, largest population of Pak, 100 million but has a diverse and varied mix of people with several dialects and accents of Punjabi spoken throughout the province. People have strong ethnic links to Sikh Punjabis across the border. Urdu language is also very dominant in the urban cities of Punjab. 3) southern province of Sind, bordering Indias Rajestan and close proximity to India's Gujurat state. provincial capital Karachi. Karachi is the largest city of Pak. Majority of Pakistanis international businesses are stationed there. Language spoken Urdu but Karachi is a metropolis with several ethnic groups from Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochis, Pashtuns, Gujratis, Bengalis, Shedis (Afro Pakistanis) Muhajirs and Persians. 4) Balochestan, provincial capital Quetta home to the Hazara community who trace their roots back to Mongolia. Te province is up and close to the Afghan border. Paks largest province. It has a dry barron landscape. The language spoken is Pashto and Balochi. close links with Iran and AFG. Small population mainly consists of vast tribes who possible trace their roots to Syria or Kurdistan. 5) KPK provincial capital Peshawar home of the vast Pashtun ethnic groups. Language spoken Pashto. Also will merge the semi autonomous tribals region bordering AFG. Other region include Azad Kashmir a varied mix of people and pahari speakers.

Well explained brother

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Forget about throwing NW towards BD, because in today's age no country will ever use it again after the world has seen the outcome of atomic falls in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. NW is only a deterrent. Thing is, BD military will not send troops along India-Pak border and the political people do not have the stomach to do such a silly thing. India Pakistan war is simply not a BD proxy war.

However, in case of a warlike situation, the best for Pakistan would be for BD to assemble its troops along the BD-India border. Even if BD does not act and just stay put, even then it will cause IA to divide its troops to both western and eastern fronts because IA just would not know the true intention of BD military. As a result, India will be almost unable to spread its war in the western front from Kashmir in the north to Run of Kacch in the south, a 1000 km stretch.

I only hope, such an understanding between BD and Pakistan will be established that will result in a stalemate in the India Pakistan war front. If Pakistan is completely defeated, there is little prospect BD would be able to protect its sovereignty from the Indian onslaught. I think, a strong Pakistan deters India from shallowing BD, and a little stronger BD will also cause similar effect in India's western front.

Bangladeshi troops fighting alongside Indian troops in a Indo-Pak war? Dude, are you really this paranoid?

Don't worry, it is not going to happen even under the current administration. And you don't have to worry about sending a nuke in another country that'd impact other neighboring countries along with the ecosystem. Heck, it would seem silly sending troops a thousand kilometers away not to mention the logistical issues.

Next Pakistan India war will be all-out last war . Both sides will use NWs if you don't want to agree up to your brain .
Now BD joining India !! Aren't you guys signing defence pact , treaty whatever with India ? MOU was singed When your PM was in India ! Isn't it? And current hate against Pakistan in BD people thanks to BD Govt don't you think BDeshi will also demand joining Hand with India ? Best Revenge Time after all !!!!!
Dear forum members in reality BD is looking for a chance to have revenge. I will be happy if you guys stay away and live longer and clean or overtake remaining India , But I am afraid strange and bad times ahead , Who knows which side BD join , one can only guess and mine is India (after looking BD's geopolitical environment) .
I and majority of Pakistani have nothing to do with BD , but I do want a strong BD , may be one day you guys recognise your real enemy and come out ethnicity complex. I will pray for that day.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

OH-HO,So in your opinion People of KPK,punjab , sindh and balochistan share same race, culture, heritage and bloodline.
So this was the actual reason why PAK came into being.
As per your parameters peshawar is 1363 kilometers from karachi.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Future of Bangla and Pak relations? Hopefully there is "no more me and you".

 

[Saiful Islam]

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You're being utterly defensive. I never said you people were begging "our bloodline". Merely pointing out the actual differences.

No one asked you to point out the differences, Bangladeshis are well aware of them. This thread is discussing relations, I'm assuming diplomatic relations not bloodline or culture.

 

[Avicenna]

LOL that particular guy has Tourrete's or something regarding racial identity.

 

[Saiful Islam]

Ignorant people like you do not write history and ordinary people like you and me learn from history. Better try it. Also, do not forget to learn there is a 35% of Dravidian DNA among the people of western Punjabis. Oh, you will hate this, too, isn't it? Because you low life guys try to portray yourself as Arabs and Persians. But, in reality, you remain Hindustanis, by history, geography, culture and DNA.

You guys should be always grateful to the Bangali Muslims who brought the nation called Pakistan. Read history books.

Their dholki, ruksati and other traditions seems to have gone out the window when they say they claim to be more in line with the Afghans and Iranians. There is a video of a Pakistani feller with the surname Qureshi who took a ancestry dna test and turns out he was 98% South Asian (India, Pakistan). He was immediately disheartened and converted to Hinduism.

You can't make this stuff up.

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And you only have to go to a little pocket of BD near NE to see the diversity of people, all whom still claim they are BENGALI.

 

[UKBengali]

Any troop movement by BD in such scenario will be treated as a hostile act by India, and we will make them vapourise, burn and/or submerge before we go deal with Pakistan. So no we are not going to commit any forces locked during conflict with you lot.....you are no China, you are a little more than a Bhutan to us.

You don't need to cross the border for us to take action. A Pakistani mod here already said BD is pretty much an enclave...so an enclave will know better and keep its weak hand to itself.

Bangladesh knows this very well, its why BAL acts the way it does with India in the first place....and make sure any hint of a party that can try this (BNP) is thoroughly expunged and eradicated in BD....and keep BD overall subservient to us.

BD will be more than capable of defending itself against India by 2030.
And you think that Pakistan and China will sit back and not take the opportunity to grab terroritory
in the meantime?
You will be boxed in by Pakistan, BD and China. That is your fate till the inevitable disintegration
of your legal entity.

Lol @ enclave as BD has coastline and so irrelevant. BD by 2030 will be easily able to split
India in two at the "Chickens Neck" if required.

 

[waz]

The two people get on just fine abroad. Obviously at home they are too far apart from even meet lol. As for official ties, not a snowball in hells chance with Hasina there.

 

[Avicenna]

The two people get on just fine abroad. Obviously at home they are too far apart from even meet lol. As for official ties, not a snowball in hells chance with Hasina there.

A very sensible post.

 

[Jungibaaz]

BD will be more than capable of defending itself against India by 2030.
And you think that Pakistan and China will sit back and not take the opportunity to grab terroritory
in the meantime?
You will be boxed in by Pakistan, BD and China. That is your fate till the inevitable disintegration
of your legal entity.

Lol @ enclave as BD has coastline and so irrelevant. BD by 2030 will be easily able to split
India in two at the "Chickens Neck" if required.

It is entirely within your interests to keep India onside, on the subject of BD being almost like an enclave, i'd say it is, and your access to the sea is very good, but say in the hypothetical scenario of unfriendly moves by India, what prevents a larger nation like that from enforcing a blockade? Especially as its maritime jurisdiction and zones I'd imagine are either side of yours.

I personally don't see any future hostilities between BD and India and maybe this is my naivety with respect to BD's geopolitical affairs, BD is no threat to India, and both can work to improve relations and get along, there's nowhere near as much hostility as there is on the Indo-Pak front.

The two people get on just fine abroad. Obviously at home they are too far apart from even meet lol. As for official ties, not a snowball in hells chance with Hasina there.

I've had only very good experiences with Bangladeshis abroad, they're great people, and politics of the subcontinent is rarely discussed, I also say this of Indians here in the UK, we all get on just fine, as we should do.

 

[bluesky]

I've had only very good experiences with Bangladeshis abroad, they're great people, and politics of the subcontinent is rarely discussed, I also say this of Indians here in the UK, we all get on just fine, as we should do.

Outside our countries, we all regard ourselves as Deshi, irrespective of our origin of country. Specially, Pakistanis and Indians mix more because of same/similar spoken language. BD people also do fine with the others including Nepalese, too. When people should try to find out the affinities, we here are trying to find out how different we are from the others.

 

[Saiful Islam]

Outside our countries, we all regard ourselves as Deshi, irrespective of our origin of country. Specially, Pakistanis and Indians mix more because of same/similar spoken language. BD people also do fine with the others including Nepalese, too. When people should try to find out the affinities, we here are trying to find out how different we are from the others.

Bangladeshis get on very well with the Nepalese, many have opened joint Bangladeshi - Nepalese cuisine restaurants.

 

[bluesky]

And you only have to go to a little pocket of BD near NE to see the diversity of people, all whom still claim they are BENGALI.

I have read accounts of Muslim Mujahids from the then Bengal fighting alongside the troops of Syed Ahmed Barelvi in the now Pakistan's Frontier (pakhtunia) province. Many of them were killed by the British/Punjabi troops in a fierce battle near Balakot in 1831, and one can see the eternal resting places of the Bangali Mujahedin martyrs nearby. Are you talking about this incident?