Future of Pakistan Bangladesh relations

[Zabaniyah]

Why do Bangladeshis assume Pakistanis = Punjabis?

A professor of mine who happened once opined that the events preceding the 71' conflict and animosity was one between Bengalis and Punjabis. I don't know, maybe they were dominant back then(?)

Isn't Pakistan a country of many ethnic groups? Bangladesh on the other hand is a largely homogeneous society.

 

[bluesky]

I just pray BD don't send there forces along with Indian when we go to war (Pakistan and India) because that will force us to Clean BD with NWs (we don't have any other option or weapon)

Forget about throwing NW towards BD, because in today's age no country will ever use it again after the world has seen the outcome of atomic falls in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. NW is only a deterrent. Thing is, BD military will not send troops along India-Pak border and the political people do not have the stomach to do such a silly thing. India Pakistan war is simply not a BD proxy war.

However, in case of a warlike situation, the best for Pakistan would be for BD to assemble its troops along the BD-India border. Even if BD does not act and just stay put, even then it will cause IA to divide its troops to both western and eastern fronts because IA just would not know the true intention of BD military. As a result, India will be almost unable to spread its war in the western front from Kashmir in the north to Run of Kacch in the south, a 1000 km stretch.

I only hope, such an understanding between BD and Pakistan will be established that will result in a stalemate in the India Pakistan war front. If Pakistan is completely defeated, there is little prospect BD would be able to protect its sovereignty from the Indian onslaught. I think, a strong Pakistan deters India from shallowing BD, and a little stronger BD will also cause similar effect in India's western front.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I just pray BD don't send there forces along with Indian when we go to war (Pakistan and India) because that will force us to Clean BD with NWs (we don't have any other option or weapon)

Bangladeshi troops fighting alongside Indian troops in a Indo-Pak war? Dude, are you really this paranoid?

Don't worry, it is not going to happen even under the current administration. And you don't have to worry about sending a nuke in another country that'd impact other neighboring countries along with the ecosystem. Heck, it would seem silly sending troops a thousand kilometers away not to mention the logistical issues.

 

[Max]

But when your govt talks about our internal matters we pay you guys back by saying Pakistan supports terrorism.

fine. but some people dont agree that its your internal matter, they refer to agreement with mujeeb and bharatis.,

 

[Samurai_assassin]

A professor of mine who happened once opined that the events preceding the 71' conflict and animosity was one between Bengalis and Punjabis. I don't know, maybe they were dominant back then(?)

Isn't Pakistan a country of many ethnic groups? Bangladesh on the other hand is a largely homogeneous society.

Pakistan is home to a mix of people and 5 provinces. Each province has its own unique provincial language and culture. 1) Gilgit Baltistan (newly or still in the process of being formed into a province) beautiful mountainous region borders China. 2) Punjab Provincial capital: Lahore, largest population of Pak, 100 million but has a diverse and varied mix of people with several dialects and accents of Punjabi spoken throughout the province. People have strong ethnic links to Sikh Punjabis across the border. Urdu language is also very dominant in the urban cities of Punjab. 3) southern province of Sind, bordering Indias Rajestan and close proximity to India's Gujurat state. provincial capital Karachi. Karachi is the largest city of Pak. Majority of Pakistanis international businesses are stationed there. Language spoken Urdu but Karachi is a metropolis with several ethnic groups from Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochis, Pashtuns, Gujratis, Bengalis, Shedis (Afro Pakistanis) Muhajirs and Persians. 4) Balochestan, provincial capital Quetta home to the Hazara community who trace their roots back to Mongolia. Te province is up and close to the Afghan border. Paks largest province. It has a dry barron landscape. The language spoken is Pashto and Balochi. close links with Iran and AFG. Small population mainly consists of vast tribes who possible trace their roots to Syria or Kurdistan. 5) KPK provincial capital Peshawar home of the vast Pashtun ethnic groups. Language spoken Pashto. Also will merge the semi autonomous tribals region bordering AFG. Other region include Azad Kashmir a varied mix of people and pahari speakers.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Pakistan is home to a mix of people and 5 provinces. Each province has its own unique provincial language and culture. 1) Gilgit Baltistan (newly or still in the process of being formed into a province) beautiful mountainous region borders China. 2) Punjab (Provincial capital: Lahore) largest population of Pak, 100 million but has a diverse and varied mix o people with several dialects and accents of Punjabi spoken throughout the province. However Urdu is also very dominant in the urban cities of Punjab. 3) Singh provincial capital Karachi. Karachi is the largest city of Pak majority of Paksistans international businesses are stationed there. Language spoken Urdu but Karachi is a matepolis with several ethnic groups from Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochis, Pashtuns, Gujratis, Bengalis, Shedis (Afro Pakistanis) and Persians. Balochestan provincial capital Quetta up close to the Afghan border dry Barron landscape language spoke. Pashto and Balochi. close links with Iran and AFG. Small population mainly consists of vast tribes who possible trace their roots to Syria or Kurdistan. KPK provincial capital Peshawar home of the vast Pashtun ethnic groups. Language spoken Pashto.

Damn! You guys are very diverse. Coming to think of it, I can't help but feel a sense of irony.

 

[bluesky]

East & West Germany were next door to eachother and the peoples were the same race, culture, heritage and bloodline. Bangladesh is 1000s of kms away and are a completely different race, culture, heritage and bloodline to us. Pakistanis share far more in common with Afghans and Iranians than we do with bangladesh yet we havn't formed a nation with them so how can we with bangladesh?

Pakistan's NW people share their blood with the Afghans in the west. Baluchis share their counterpart in the Baluchistan of Iran. But, Sindhis and Punjabis share their blood with Indians in their east. BD people certainly do not share blood with the Punjabis. However, the first Muslim settlements in Bengal were by the people of Garmsher in Afghanistan during the time of Shihabuddin Ghori in 1198. There were many other settlements after that as well.

 

[Mage]

fine. but some people dont agree that its your internal matter, they refer to agreement with mujeeb and bharatis.,

Which agreement? Besides Mujib did nothing to punish war criminals. It's all Hasina's doing. Its also a way to weaken her opposition Jamaat. Therefore fully BD's internal matter and everyone should be respecting that.

 

[Max]

Which agreement? Besides Mujib did nothing to punish war criminals. It's all Hasina's doing. Its also a way to weaken her opposition Jamaat. Therefore fully BD's internal matter and everyone should be respecting that.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1221842

Well as i said we should remain silent, Haseena will not remain forever, rightists will get their chance too/maybe they will do even worst with left. we should not take side, we should be friendly with everyone.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Damn! You guys are very diverse. Coming to think of it, I can't help but feel a sense of irony.

Very common to see the complete opposites in Pakistan. One could visit the north and see people with a fair complexion, light coloured eyes and light brown hair. Meanwhile travel south one can come across Pakistanis with a much darker complexion.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan's NW people share their blood with the Afghans in the west. Baluchis share their counterpart in the Baluchistan of Iran. But, Sindhis and Punjabis share their blood with Indians in their east. BD people certainly do not share blood with the Punjabis. However, the first Muslim settlements in Bengal were by the people of Garmsher in Afghanistan during the time of Shihabuddin Ghori in 1198. There were many other settlements after that as well.

Sindhis of Pakistan are a mixed bunch anyway. They are classified more as a linguistical group than anything else. They are quite different to indians. After years of inter-mixing with the tribes West of us, both the Punjabis and Sindhis of Pakistan are different to their namesakes in india. Add to the fact that Punjabis make up no more than 3% of india you realize how very different Pakistanis and indians are. bengalis share a lot in common with indians. We however don't.

 

[Max]

Sindhis and Punjabis share their blood with Indians in their east

There is no Sindh in gangaland, Punjabi only make 2 to 3% of gangaland, 97% are aliens to Pakistani Punjabis..

so you should not say they share with bharatis, what you should say is, Punjabi share with bharati Punjabis.

 

[bdslph]

THERE IS NO FUTURE
BAL DONT LIKE PAKISTAN PLUS THE PRESENT GOV HAS MAKE THE PEOPLE ANTI PAKISTANI ALSO
NORMAL LOW LEVEL RELATIONS WILL BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME

 

[bluesky]

There is no Sindh in gangaland, Punjabi only make 2 to 3% of gangaland, 97% are aliens to Pakistani Punjabis..

so you should not say they share with bharatis, what you should say is, Punjabi share with bharati Punjabis.

And the Bharati Punjabis are Hindustani. So, it is same with east Punjabi. Sindhi people have always been a part of Hindustan. I think, you guys are suffering with an identity crisis. You must straighten things up instead of a false identity only with your west. Like any border country, Afghanistan changed hands with Iran, Turkistan (a general identity) and Hindustan in historical times. But, they would like to be identified more with Hindustan because of history, and not with Pakistan, whose history began only in 1947.

 

[Max]

And the Bharati Punjabis are Hindustani. So, it is same with east Punjabi. Sindhi people have always been a part of Hindustan. I think, you guys are suffering with an identity crisis. You must straighten things up instead of a false identity only with your west. Like any border country, Afghanistan changed hands with Iran, Turkistan (a general identity) and Hindustan in historical times. But, they would like to be identified more with Hindustan because of history, and not with Pakistan, whose history began only in 1947.

so does Tamils, Telgue, Marathi, marwari, bengali are Hindustani, are we same people Mr genius? and you little bengali, its us Pakistanis who are real Hindus not the other way around, but we hate this term since gangalanders start using this for them.

The word Hind is derived not from bengal. Tamil tadu, bihar or odhissa, its from river indus, aka Sindh and Punjab, Sindh become Hind, indus, Indic, become India..

and i am not suffering from identity crisis my son you are suffering from mental crisis, all i am saying is There is no Sindh in republic of bharat, why are you even bringing term Hindustan here?

and their was no united nation called Hindustan which ever existed, it was geographical term like Asia or Africa..

Find me your magical country Hindustan in this historical map.. dont worry About Afghan, they can differentiate very well between geographical terms and Nation unlike you.