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Future of Pakistan Bangladesh relations

The relationship with Pakistan can be forged under SAARC framework. To do that, Pakistan need to improve its relationship with both India and Afghanistan.
BD has no issue with Pakistan except, terrorism funding and meddling the war crime tribunal. Terrorism funding is what makes everybody turned off and want to stay away from Pakistan.

what are you blabbering? If you want to speak bharat's language like terrorism bla blah just bcoz we speak against injustice of so called international tribunal then there is no need of diplomatic ties with BD.

Pakistan should rather spend its energies in good relations with future Afghan National govt which is not chosen by Kerry...
 
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we speak against injustice of so called international tribunal
Not your business. You can't save them by speaking for them. Better be silent. If you can't you'll get response from our govt like Pak supports/sponsor terrorism. Not a bad claim. After all Laden was found in Pakistan.
there is no need of diplomatic ties with BD.
Sure. Then sever all diplomatic ties. BD govt must never take such initiatives as it is against our foreign policy but if Pakistan want to do so then you are very much welcomed to do so.

Bangladeshs only claim to fame on earth was the fact that they were once a part of Pakistan.
Brown sugar?

After taking drugs try to enjoy them offline
 
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the relations between the two countries will never improve till the time hasina wajid is in power and she will remain in power in bangladesh just like nawaz in pakistan.
 
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For start there are no issues between the two great countries . Pak has always helped BD in every forum wheather cricket / geo politics and in return we expect mutually respected relationship between the two .For the last 4 year there is a GOvt which does not represent BD people and only support she has from India so abnormal relationships are bcas of this .We feel happy when BD progress it clearly proves the two nation theory and in practice if BD did well its best for the muslims of suppressed India
 
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When did BD started to go with India? what does that even mean? BD also has relations with china arent they going with China?
Others having a independent foreign policy, suiting their own interests is wrong. By the way why do afghans hate pakistan?
Well lot of questions to ponder over.

oh sorry you are pakistani cant expect any logical thinking wrt India.

This is a forum, please leave your Indo-Pak baggage in another thread. India is in all ways measurable far more important to Bangladesh than Pakistan. As a land it's an enclave within Indian borders and the sea. It's trade is substantial with India, although in my estimation it ought to be higher for mutual benefit, but I've no doubt it will grow. Strategically, Pakistan has little or nothing to offer BD, India has everything to offer BD. And Pakistan can also never be a real threat to BD hypothetically, whereas India can, hypothetically. It therefore stands to reason that on a diplomatic level, on Indo-Pak issues, BD should remain neutral where possible, and side with India publicly where it may reap the rewards of Indian approval of anti-Pakistan sentiments and especially where its own history with Pakistan comes in to play, although that has its own motivations because of wrongs done before BD became a nation. Hasina's hysterics, though a little pathetic, aren't without reason, she stand to gain something even if from our perspective it seems petty.

Pakistan did the same with China and Taiwan, China means everything to us, and Taiwan means little or nothing. We cut diplomatic ties with Taiwan, not because the average Pakistani knows or cares about the history of Taiwan, but because we stand to gain something in supporting the Chinese and their position on the matter.

You should take a moment and read what I'm actually saying here, it's quite straight forward and you seem to be reading it wrong. And on Afghanistan, our history with them is older than you know, you can believe me on that, every time I discuss this with an Indian, with due respect, they always lack any knowledge on the matter besides an Indian perspective limited to the last twenty or thirty years.
 
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This is a forum, please leave your Indo-Pak baggage in another thread. India is in all ways measurable far more important to Bangladesh than Pakistan. As a land it's an enclave within Indian borders and the sea. It's trade is substantial with India, although in my estimation it ought to be higher for mutual benefit, but I've no doubt it will grow. Strategically, Pakistan has little or nothing to offer BD, India has everything to offer BD. And Pakistan can also never be a real threat to BD hypothetically, whereas India can, hypothetically. It therefore stands to reason that on a diplomatic level, on Indo-Pak issues, BD should remain neutral where possible, and side with India publicly where it may reap the rewards of Indian approval of anti-Pakistan sentiments and especially where its own history with Pakistan comes in to play, although that has its own motivations because of wrongs done before BD became a nation. Hasina's hysterics, though a little pathetic, aren't without reason, she stand to gain something even if from our perspective it seems petty.

Pakistan did the same with China and Taiwan, China means everything to us, and Taiwan means little or nothing. We cut diplomatic ties with Taiwan, not because the average Pakistani knows or cares about the history of Taiwan, but because we stand to gain something in supporting the Chinese and their position on the matter.

You should take a moment and read what I'm actually saying here, it's quite straight forward and you seem to be reading it wrong. And on Afghanistan, our history with them is older than you know, you can believe me on that, every time I discuss this with an Indian, with due respect, they always lack any knowledge on the matter besides an Indian perspective limited to the last twenty or thirty years.




Our links & connections to both Afghanistan & Iran is FAR FAR older and date back many millenia. We are next door to them and have far more in common with these 2 nations than most outsiders acknowledge or understand.
 
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Our links & connections to both Afghanistan & Iran is FAR FAR older and dates back many millenia. We are next door to them and have far more in common than most outsiders acknowledge or understand.

It's not just that, usually, most Indians I've met haven't heard much about the histories of the state of Afghanistan and the state of Pakistan from 1947-79', they know nothing about early Afghan reluctance to accept the state of Pakistan, to accept the Durand line. Nor do they know that Afghans claimed a lot of then NWFP for themselves, actively backed insurgencies in both Balochistan and in KPK, Daoud Khan was staunchly anti-Pak and our relations with them were not good even then.
 
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It's not just that, usually, most Indians I've met haven't heard much about the histories of the state of Afghanistan and the state of Pakistan from 1947-79', they know nothing about early Afghan reluctance to accept the state of Pakistan, to accept the Durand line. Nor do they know that Afghans claimed a lot of then NWFP for themselves, actively backed insurgencies in both Balochistan and in KPK, Daoud Khan was staunchly anti-Pak and our relations with them were not good even then.



It all boils down to the Afghans wanting what Pakistan has, what we have achieved and what we are set to become.
 
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Not your business. You can't save them by speaking for them. Better be silent. If you can't you'll get response from our govt like Pak supports/sponsor terrorism. Not a bad claim. After all Laden was found in Pakistan.

i am all happy to be silent and ignore BD but we have few people in our parliament and media who finger our govt until they dont speak about it.. i think even NS dont want to speak about it, what Pakistan have to do with leftist hanging rightists?
 
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This is a forum, please leave your Indo-Pak baggage in another thread. India is in all ways measurable far more important to Bangladesh than Pakistan. As a land it's an enclave within Indian borders and the sea. It's trade is substantial with India, although in my estimation it ought to be higher for mutual benefit, but I've no doubt it will grow. Strategically, Pakistan has little or nothing to offer BD, India has everything to offer BD. And Pakistan can also never be a real threat to BD hypothetically, whereas India can, hypothetically. It therefore stands to reason that on a diplomatic level, on Indo-Pak issues, BD should remain neutral where possible, and side with India publicly where it may reap the rewards of Indian approval of anti-Pakistan sentiments and especially where its own history with Pakistan comes in to play, although that has its own motivations because of wrongs done before BD became a nation. Hasina's hysterics, though a little pathetic, aren't without reason, she stand to gain something even if from our perspective it seems petty.

Pakistan did the same with China and Taiwan, China means everything to us, and Taiwan means little or nothing. We cut diplomatic ties with Taiwan, not because the average Pakistani knows or cares about the history of Taiwan, but because we stand to gain something in supporting the Chinese and their position on the matter.

You should take a moment and read what I'm actually saying here, it's quite straight forward and you seem to be reading it wrong. And on Afghanistan, our history with them is older than you know, you can believe me on that, every time I discuss this with an Indian, with due respect, they always lack any knowledge on the matter besides an Indian perspective limited to the last twenty or thirty years.
Perhaps the most rational and informative post in this thread. Explains BD's positions in Indo-Pak matters..

One thing I'd add is if Pakistan wants to have a good relationship with BD then they shouldn't care who is in power in BD. You'll have to have good relation with the country not with a political party.

i am all happy to be silent and ignore BD but we have few people in our parliament and media who finger our govt until they dont speak about it.. i think even NS dont want to speak about it, what Pakistan have to do with leftist hanging rightists?
Similarly an average Bangladeshi doesn't care about India-Pakistan matters. But when your govt talks about our internal matters we pay you guys back by saying Pakistan supports terrorism.
 
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can there ever be friendly relations between Pakistan and Bangladesh? If not between the governments but what about the people of the two nations? How do Bangladeshis feel towards Pakistanis and Pakistan?
Both being a Muslim countries have natural relations of love... In past the relations between Bangladesh and Pakistan have remained cordial and strong but after coming the present govt in Bangla some relations have not remained as had in the past... The main role of India has always there to deteriorate the relations between two countries... Even the Pakistani people keep good intention towards Bangali people and same are also seen from Bangla side...
 
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Perhaps the most rational and informative post in this thread. Explains BD's positions in Indo-Pak matters..

One thing I'd add is if Pakistan wants to have a good relationship with BD then they shouldn't care who is in power in BD. You'll have to have good relation with the country not with a political party.


Similarly an average Bangladeshi doesn't care about India-Pakistan matters. But when your govt talks about our internal matters we pay you guys back by saying Pakistan supports terrorism.
BD once blamed Pak ISI for the mutiny which saw BD border guards kill senior BD militery officers. Seems like even BD want to blame their entire faults on Pak.
 
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BD once blamed Pak ISI for the mutiny which saw BD border guards kill senior BD militery officers. Seems like even BD want to blame their entire faults on Pak.
Where? I know some idiots here blame RAW for it but ISI? Show me some link. I don't think any neutral source blames India or Pakistan for that tragic incident.
 
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Where? I know some idiots here blame RAW for it but ISI? Show me some link. I don't think any neutral source blames India or Pakistan for that tragic incident.
It was on the news at the time

Where? I know some idiots here blame RAW for it but ISI? Show me some link. I don't think any neutral source blames India or Pakistan for that tragic incident.
Where? I know some idiots here blame RAW for it but ISI? Show me some link. I don't think any neutral source blames India or Pakistan for that tragic incident.
please follow the link. This was only one of a few news sources that reported Pakistans involvement in BD mutiny. I remember the BBC an Al Jazeera also reporting on this. BD blaming Pak ISI.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...an-in-the-frame-over-Bangladesh-uprising.html
 
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It was on the news at the time


please follow the link. This was only one of a few news sources that reported Pakistans involvement in BD mutiny. I remember the BBC an Al Jazeera also reporting on this. BD blaming Pak ISI.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...an-in-the-frame-over-Bangladesh-uprising.html
I read the article. But I don't see any BD official blaming or even suspecting ISI or Pakistan there. It quotes Indian sources that ISI is a suspect here. But no BD official made any official statement involving Pakistan or ISI in that matter
 
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