France & Pakistan to revive JF-17 Avionics/EW/Missiles deal as Indian MMRCA stalls.

[Indian Patriot]

20 billion dollars is a lot of money. No company is going to throw that away.

 

[SipahSalar]

I still don't see what this deal had to do with Indians? Why were they not selling us that stuff earlier? Also we should stick to Chinese avionics and spare parts, don't want to get embargo again.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Discuss by all means, but don't bring people into disrepute.

I was the one trying to engage in a discussion based on outrageous and unfounded remarks by a "think tank" that he has not engaged in a discussion says a lot....

 

[SQ8]

Well I guess anything is possible but I don't know if the IAF intel guys really monitor such things and even if they do, remove the Rafale deal from the equation and the sum total of potential defence deals between India and France and Pakistan and France grossly favours India effectively shutting the door for Pakistan almost entirely so it seems this simply can't be truthful on any level.

You both sides sleep Abi?
There is a DAILY, I repeat DAILY updated report on the PAF's activities(and vice versa) delivered to all senior staff. Then there are Monthly reports which are much more detailed and include everything from logistic issues the other is facing, training successes and hurdles.. along with on going procurement projects. This is all apart from the usual reports and assumptions being sent in on updated operational plans and other niceties.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Bookmarking this thread to use it sometime later.

You should do the same with a few more threads around here.....

You both sides sleep Abi?
There is a DAILY, I repeat DAILY updated report on the PAF's activities(and vice versa) delivered to all senior staff. Then there are Monthly reports which are much more detailed and include everything from logistic issues the other is facing, training successes and hurdles.. along with on going procurement projects. This is all apart from the usual reports and assumptions being sent in on updated operational plans and other niceties.

Fair enough, I wouldn't have thought enough changed (in strategic terms) on a day to day basis to justify such daily reports but I shall defer to your superior knowledge on these things sir.

 

[manojb]

Ok no problem. India can buy advanced avionics from China. We already buying oneplusone phone from china. Do you have any smartphone from france?

 

[Kompromat]

Pakistan is mainly dealing with Thales rather than Dassault. Regardless of the volume of potential Indian business, the French wouldn't like to lose the Pakistani market. The prospect of UAE M2K-9s for PAF was discussed yet the French showed no opposition. As @Oscar pointed out that perspective customers of JF-17 jets like Egypt or Iraq might want to have a Thales package to facilitate their cross platform interoperability issues.

 

[Dalit]

I was the one trying to engage in a discussion based on outrageous and unfounded remarks by a "think tank" that he has not engaged in a discussion says a lot....

The reason why all you Indians are suddenly so mad and in disbelief isn't very hard to figure out for us Pakistanis. It has nothing to do with "unfounded remarks" because you don't even know the validity of these remarks like most of us. At this point we don't know whether the claims are true or untrue. We are simply speculating. Although you need to stop bringing the poster of this thread into disrepute. He has shared his info and we appreciate that wholeheartedly. Time will tell whether this info is accurate or not. Now, calm down and take a deep breath.

 

[SpArK]

You should do the same with a few more threads around here.....


Fair enough, I wouldn't have thought enough changed (in strategic terms) on a day to day basis to justify such daily reports but I shall defer to your superior knowledge on these things sir.

First thoughts were what about the EW, Avionics made by China that has been discussed in number of pages of the thread of JF-17, are they that bad?

Second thoughts were checking the OP and found that there is no report with source.

Third thought was wait for it to happen or not happen and then comment rather than giving opportunity to quote me over.

 

[Dalit]

Ok no problem. India can buy advanced avionics from China. We already buying oneplusone phone from china. Do you have any smartphone from france?

Good counseling Saul!

 

[IrbiS]

So, till now all here have been bragging and advocating about 'CHINESE AVIONICS' being on par with those from west and that 200kg sd-10 better than AMRAAM. And on one unconfirmed news, we are ready to throw away China maal and go to west in a second. I would prefer Mica but should wait till confirmation of the news.Like our first love who rejected us is now calling us back and get ready to leave wife and return to her on one call. One thing for sure that French 'll charge more than we can afford and is PAF ready to invest its stretched funds with ongoing chinese procurements? It will hurt JF sales too. Since who would wanna buy chinese avionics and weaponry with it when even PAF ain't buying, and we can't convince French for supply to all intended customers considering the potential customers we're targeting, aren't that close to the west.

Till confirmation, we shouldn't get high because tomorrow we still maybe comparing our current avionics with French ones critically

 

[Manticore]

I'll believe when I see it

 

[Srinivas]

Chinese are developing technologies and are willing to share with Pakistan. Chinese copy, buy some of the tech from west. Off late Chinese are coming up with good products.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The reason why all you Indians are suddenly so mad and in disbelief isn't very hard to figure out for us Pakistanis.

Who on here is mad? I see most members being bemused if anything.

This thread only makes sense to those who haven't been following the Indian Rafale deal closely especially in the past few weeks. For those that have, this thread is pure nonsense because the two sides are a matter of weeks away from signing and thus you see the response you do.

 

[SQ8]

Fair enough, I wouldn't have thought enough changed (in strategic terms) on a day to day basis to justify such daily reports but I shall defer to your superior knowledge on these things sir.

Think of it this way. You have ways to know what is going on within PAF Sargodha, Muridke, Masroor and other smaller stations on a daily basis. This may or may not include flying schedules, new deployments and so on. This information
is not something to ignore regardless of strategic standing.