Four Iran border guards killed in clash on Pakistan frontier

[AmirPatriot]

bombing champion of state sponor terrorism

Hahahahaaa... Murica says they sponsor terrorism, so it must be true

I would assume Pakistan is already trying to purge Baluchistan of militants then, as CPEC goes through there. Give it some time. Pakistan can surely do it themselves, getting Iranian help would make them look weak.

Who am I supposed to believe? I'm getting people saying Pakistan is more focused on Afghanistan and India, others saying Pakistan can do it all by itself... meanwhile Iranians are dying because scum like Jaish al Adl and Jundullah are launching attacks and then jumping back across the border. And this is happening constantly. Fact is, Pakistan is less motivated to stop groups like PRMI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jundallah_(Iran) because they don't attack Pakistan. And until some sort of arrangement is made, Iran cannot attack their bases.

 

[Max]

Hahahahaaa... Murica says they sponsor terrorism, so it must be true



Who am I supposed to believe? I'm getting people saying Pakistan is more focused on Afghanistan and India, others saying Pakistan can do it all by itself... meanwhile Iranians are dying because scum like Jaish al Adl and Jundullah are launching attacks and then jumping back across the border. And this is happening constantly. Fact is, Pakistan is less motivated to stop groups like PRMI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jundallah_(Iran) because they don't attack Pakistan. And until some sort of arrangement is made, Iran cannot attack their bases.

Iranian brother thats why ur membership was opposed in SCO, you openly take side in every conflict.. US is not alone..
anyways terror attack on ur forces are not daily occurrence , it happens once in a blue moon.. And reason behind those attacks are Iranian themselve bcoz they keep them backward..

In context of Pakistan, why we are not allowed to bomb those who are involve in radicalization of our people and sending them to syria and Iraq.. ??

Why we are not allowed to bomb those who despite warning of Pakistan govt fund Shia political, religious, militant parties and making them ayatollah worshipers? Should i post pics of those brainwashed people holding banners with pics of Khomayni, and Ali Khaminai in rallies? Wth khomaini and khaminai have to do with Pakistan?

Why we are not allowed to bomb those who allowed a famous gangster/murder of 100's of people named Uzair Baloch an Iranian passport?

Why should we not bomb those who send Abus Salam rigi like terrorist in Pakistan via official border crossings and then whine against Pakistan..

 

[jha]

RIP.

 

[Drashid]

Who am I supposed to believe? I'm getting people saying Pakistan is more focused on Afghanistan and India, others saying Pakistan can do it all by itself... meanwhile Iranians are dying because scum like Jaish al Adl and Jundullah are launching attacks and then jumping back across the border. And this is happening constantly. Fact is, Pakistan is less motivated to stop groups like PRMI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jundallah_(Iran) because they don't attack Pakistan. And until some sort of arrangement is made, Iran cannot attack their bases.

Of course Pakistan won't attack groups that don't attack them, it's not in their interests.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Iranian brother thats why ur membership was opposed in SCO, you openly take side in every conflict.. US is not alone..

Iran only takes sides in conflicts that affect it. Thats why Iran doesn't support Pakistan or India in their animosity, why Iran doesn't delve into India's relationship with Israel, why it is a huge trading partner of both Japan and China (both of which are rivals). Regional conflicts in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon etc. do affect Iran, so we look after our interests and security.

anyways terror attack on ur forces are not daily occurrence

So what? Any occurrence of terrorism is too much, and Iran gets them every year, maybe even every month. We don't tolerate any terrorism.

And reason behind those attacks are Iranian themselve bcoz they keep them backward.

radicalization of our people and sending them to syria and Iraq

How is killing ISIS "radizalisation"?

holding banners with pics of Khomayni, and Ali Khaminai

Both are huge figures in the Shia world. Shias follow these men for guidance on Islam and modern issues, not as some sort of Iranian followship. If it had been so, they would have held up pictures of Rouhani or Iranian historical figures.

militant parties

BS.

Of course Pakistan won't attack groups that don't attack them, it's not in their interests.

So what should Iran do? Let the terrorists have a safe haven in Pakistan, safe that they won't be attacked by Pakistani authorities?

 

[Drashid]

So what should Iran do? Let the terrorists have a safe haven in Pakistan, safe that they won't be attacked by Pakistani authorities?

That's all Iran can do. Just give it time, I'm sure Pakistan will get to them eventually.

 

[AmirPatriot]

That's all Iran can do. Just give it time, I'm sure Pakistan will get to them eventually.

We can't "give it time". In that "time" the terrorists are bombing and shooting up our mosques and soldiers. In case you hadn't noticed, Iran wastes no "time" to kill these scumbags with extreme prejudice, wherever they may be.

And maybe you should also note that allowing terrorists to roam free in your country just because they don't attack you now doesn't mean they wouldn't attack you in the future. There is a Pakistani Jundullah as well as an Iranian Jundullah.

 

[Drashid]

We can't "give it time". In that "time" the terrorists are bombing and shooting up our mosques and soldiers. In case you hadn't noticed, Iran wastes no "time" to kill these scumbags with extreme prejudice, wherever they may be.

And maybe you should also note that allowing terrorists to roam free in your country just because they don't attack you now doesn't mean they wouldn't attack you in the future. There is a Pakistani Jundullah as well as an Iranian Jundullah.

I am sure Pakistan is dealing with them, don't they already launch operations in Baluchistan? Just give it time, you can't rush these things.

 

[AmirPatriot]

I am sure Pakistan is dealing with them, don't they already launch operations in Baluchistan? Just give it time, you can't rush these things.

Well there is no denying that Pakistan does indeed go after them, but they and many other groups still have bases in Pakistan and regularly operate out of Pakistan.

There is a reason why scum like PJAK, KDPI, Al Qaeda, MEK, Jundullah, Jaish al Adl and others only do cross border raids on Iran. Its because they have no proper bases in Iran itself. This is the tireless work of VEVAK, the IRGC and other Iranian intelligence and counter-terrorism organisations that have expelled these groups or not allowed them bases in the first place. Then they retreat to states who do not or cannot conduct effective action against them (Pakistan, modern Iraq, Afghanistan). If Pakistan was able to conduct similar action to Iran's counter-terrorism operations, there would be no problem. They wouldn't have bases in Pakistan. But Pakistan does not or cannot eliminate these groups, which is why Iranians like SOHEIL are anxious to see Iran cooperate more directly with Pakistan in attacking these bases in Pakistan.

 

[waz]

I'm sorry to hear about the deaths of the poor guards.
The border should be jointly fenced and manned by forward bases, with both Pakistani and Iranian teams manning them.
Enough is enough. These devils are trying to destroy relations between the two countries.

 

[HAIDER]

I'm sorry to hear about the deaths of the poor guards.
The border should be jointly fenced and manned by forward bases, with both Pakistani and Iranian teams manning them.
Enough is enough. These devils are trying to destroy relations between the two countries.

Troubled area border which connects three countries, Pakistan,Iran and Afghanistan, which is beyond Pakistan control. These terrorist sneak in from Afghan to Pakistan and enter Iran. Plus, Afghan refugee camp is biggest troubled area These refugees camp need to be abolish early as possible and fvck Achakzai.

 

[BRAVO_]

Pak issues with AF on the Torkham border
Pak issues with India on the Indian border
Pak issues with Iran on the Iranian border

The only exception is Chinese border, two inferences can be made

- All these three countries are in cahoots to harm Pakistan.

OR

- Pakistan is to blame for destabilizing the neighbourhood.

No trolling, only objective counter argumentation please

Most of countries in this region are having similar situation, for instance Afghanistna has issue with paksitan, their issues with Tajikistan are also increasing day by day since the border security is not intact he three Tajik construction workers were quietly mending a road near the Panj River last month when they stumbled on a group of men with assault rifles who had crossed over from Afghanistan in broad daylight and shot dead one and took two as hostage, The border is a major route for narcotics from Afghanistan, the world's main producer of opium used to make heroin, to Central Asia and on to Russia and Europe. so how good relation both countries have now you can understand. since afghan govt is not in control entire country so growing power of islamist groups like islamic state and rest of their league is pushing the central asian states toward russia to get military support to deal with any rebellion.

About iran ... historically their relations with iraq, GCC and rest of neighbors remains deteriorating and still they are liek that.

About Inida... how they are active in Nepal every one knows, they dont have ideal relation with China, Pakistan Bangladesh barma and so on ...

KSA ... issue with Yemen... Iran ... and iraq is also in Que

so the point is we are living in a region which is going through changes and such disputes are imminent

this topic is very broad and need too much time to post the data however i summarized it and details could be googled

 

[Beny Karachun]

Come on man, would you appreciate it if they said the same about IDF soldiers?



I would assume Pakistan is against this because it would ruin Pak-Arab relations.

No but I wouldn't call it troll.

Terrorist sympathizer.

You are funding the terrorists.
Israel is not a terrorist sympathizer.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Pak issues with AF on the Torkham border
Pak issues with India on the Indian border
Pak issues with Iran on the Iranian border

The only exception is Chinese border, two inferences can be made

- All these three countries are in cahoots to harm Pakistan.

OR

- Pakistan is to blame for destabilizing the neighbourhood.

No trolling, only objective counter argumentation please

This wasn't an incident with Pakistan...

If you read carefully they were killed fighting rebels NEAR Pakistan border

This isnt new; Pakistan and Iran are jointly working together to put down insurgency in the region. This incident will only bring Iran and Pakistan more together.

Afghan skirmishes happened because Afghanistan does not recognize the Durand line and thus opposed the border fence by firing on workers and Pakistani border guards.

One of my old friends was injured (by Indian fire) on the Indian border after pointing at an Indian village. The BSF is nothing but a trigger-happy ill-trained force; something as small as a firecracker can start a skirmish on the Indian border.

Your points are invalid.

Well there is no denying that Pakistan does indeed go after them, but they and many other groups still have bases in Pakistan and regularly operate out of Pakistan.

There is a reason why scum like PJAK, KDPI, Al Qaeda, MEK, Jundullah, Jaish al Adl and others only do cross border raids on Iran. Its because they have no proper bases in Iran itself. This is the tireless work of VEVAK, the IRGC and other Iranian intelligence and counter-terrorism organisations that have expelled these groups or not allowed them bases in the first place. Then they retreat to states who do not or cannot conduct effective action against them (Pakistan, modern Iraq, Afghanistan). If Pakistan was able to conduct similar action to Iran's counter-terrorism operations, there would be no problem. They wouldn't have bases in Pakistan. But Pakistan does not or cannot eliminate these groups, which is why Iranians like SOHEIL are anxious to see Iran cooperate more directly with Pakistan in attacking these bases in Pakistan.

Pakistan operations in the area has pushed whatever terrorist remains into isolated mountain caves - this incident most likely originated from within Iran itself; it is very doubtful that these terrorists came from Pakistan. But I do agree; Pakistan-Iran needs better cooperation to tackle the insurgency.

 

[A-Team]

We can't "give it time". In that "time" the terrorists are bombing and shooting up our mosques and soldiers. In case you hadn't noticed, Iran wastes no "time" to kill these scumbags with extreme prejudice, wherever they may be.

And maybe you should also note that allowing terrorists to roam free in your country just because they don't attack you now doesn't mean they wouldn't attack you in the future. There is a Pakistani Jundullah as well as an Iranian Jundullah.

Welcome to the club Iran, the Afghans have been asking our Pakistani friends to disrupt militants roaming around Pak to attacks Afghanistan for years to no avail so far.

Last week General Raheel promised to go after those militants that attack Afghanistan, which is very good but let see how that works out in practice.