Four Iran border guards killed in clash on Pakistan frontier

[Max]

Iran only takes sides in conflicts that affect it. Thats why Iran doesn't support Pakistan or India in their animosity,

I was Talking about ME.. Asia is not your theater neither are you so big a power as country which can interfere in south east Asia.. each country there is capable to reply in kind ...

you are on side of India and its proxies always, whether its about northern alliance in Afghanistan, or providing them port in our western border so that they can encircle us with their proxies.. on other hand Pakistan supplied you weapons in Iraq war, we gave you centrifuges/ enrichment tech/ help u establish relation with suppliers.. what Iran did for us??? you can act sweet here but i know how you refer to Pakistan in your forums, Zionist, wahabbi or whatnot..

So what? Any occurrence of terrorism is too much, and Iran gets
them every year, maybe even every month. We don't tolerate any terrorism.

Then as i said drone some of ur incompetent border guard who are sleeping on border/ who send terrorist leaders like Abdul Salam rigi in Pakistan from official border crossing..

as Drashid mentioned its not even in our interest that Baluchistan region remain destabilize bcoz China is doing investment of $46 billion.. so you should wait for betterment.. it is certainly better then what you guys have in 2005 to 2010? isn't?
you should appreciate Pakistan for this..

as of now your govt have not said anything about Pakistan regarding this incident..

Yeah keep laughing on their backwardness. they will keep killing your people..

Fact# Baloch are most backward, poor people in Iran..

How is killing ISIS "radizalisation"?

in civilized world fighting terrorism in Job of state and its official armies, sending citizen of other countries to fight for you cause is open terrorism and radicalization of youth of 3rd country..

Both are huge figures in the Shia world. Shias follow these men for guidance on Islam and modern issues, not as some sort of Iranian followship

Both were supreme leaders of Iran.. Political figure more then religious figures dont fool us.. what is Hasan Nasrullah? why they march with his banners?

BS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipah-e-Muhammad_Pakistan

btw just todays news :::

Pakistani man arrested in Germany for spying for Iran..

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1137633/germany-arrests-pakistani-man-accused-spying-iran/
..

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Well even this 10% of sunni been accepted under international pressure but in real its been around 26 to 28 % of sunni population.
Their is something which I like the most is they all are Iranis first and all else later.

 

[AmirPatriot]

You are funding the terrorists.

No you nutcase, I don't fund any terrorism.

Israel is not a terrorist sympathizer.

I was Talking about ME

In case you didn't know, Iran happens to be in the Middle East. So Middle Eastern conflicts have a direct impact on our security and interests.

you are on side of India and its proxies always

Hahahaa... on the one hand you say Iran is doing nothing for Balochistan, then you condemn it when we conduct major development in Balochistan. Newsflash: Iran is not going to allow destabilising actors in a region which is already unstable. We will do as much development as we like and neither Pakistan nor China nor the US can tell us otherwise.

Then as i said drone some of ur incompetent border guard who are sleeping on border/ who send terrorist leaders like Abdul Salam rigi in Pakistan from official border crossing..

Yep, one man slips through border and Iran is suddenly incompetent, but militants cross the border from Pakistan every month and kill Iranians. With your logic, what does that make the Pakistani border guards then? Brainless vegetables? Or maybe you are jumping to incorrect conclusions?

Fact# Baloch are most backward, poor people in Iran..

Lack of natural resources, sanctions, harsh climate, frequency of earthquakes, and a nomadic culture that means many people don't even have permanent homes are the reason, not the government "keeping them backward" like you foolishly suggest.

terrorism in Job of state and its official armies

Terrorism should be countered with whatever means possible.

Political figure more then religious figures

They are leaders of the Shia world. Like I said, if Pakistanis were somehow nationally loyal to Iran they would hold up pictures of Rouhani, who is in a strictly political position.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipah-e-Muhammad_Pakistan

There is no proof that this group has any support from Iran.

 

[Mentee]

All the madrassah are not problem, there is a sect of islam which is more widely practiced in afghanistan then pakistan and its head office is in India (deoband) which is a root cause of terrorism in the region and most of them are in KPK. I strongly recommend to eliminate some of them for long term peace. and your know the fun part is most of them is running on KSA finance.

P.S. I am Sunni.

Nailed it bro

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Sunni but which sect barelvi or Salafi etc
And please give source which supports your clams about KSA finance otherwise
Don't say what you think

Salafis are not Sunni but wahabi

 

[Naara-e-Mastana]

Stop crying iranians if you have problem just seal the border . don't be a sisi .

 

[Beny Karachun]

No you nutcase, I don't fund any terrorism.







In case you didn't know, Iran happens to be in the Middle East. So Middle Eastern conflicts have a direct impact on our security and interests.



Hahahaa... on the one hand you say Iran is doing nothing for Balochistan, then you condemn it when we conduct major development in Balochistan. Newsflash: Iran is not going to allow destabilising actors in a region which is already unstable. We will do as much development as we like and neither Pakistan nor China nor the US can tell us otherwise.



Yep, one man slips through border and Iran is suddenly incompetent, but militants cross the border from Pakistan every month and kill Iranians. With your logic, what does that make the Pakistani border guards then? Brainless vegetables? Or maybe you are jumping to incorrect conclusions?



Lack of natural resources, sanctions, harsh climate, frequency of earthquakes, and a nomadic culture that means many people don't even have permanent homes are the reason, not the government "keeping them backward" like you foolishly suggest.



Terrorism should be countered with whatever means possible.



They are leaders of the Shia world. Like I said, if Pakistanis were somehow nationally loyal to Iran they would hold up pictures of Rouhani, who is in a strictly political position.



There is no proof that this group has any support from Iran.

I am not talking about you personally, I am talking about Iran, that funds Hezbollah and Hamas.

 

[tarrar]

Iran is only supporting terrorism & extremism in Pakistan & they are providing safe havens to Indian agents to operate against Pakistan. Iranis cannot be trusted at any cost.

 

[Sipahi]

Welcome to the club Iran, the Afghans have been asking our Pakistani friends to disrupt militants roaming around Pak to attacks Afghanistan for years to no avail so far.

Last week General Raheel promised to go after those militants that attack Afghanistan, which is very good but let see how that works out in practice.

Yes he said so by blocking every possible afghan movement on border and building 3 tier fencing same as on eastern side.

tell me one thing, if we send back 6 million afghan back in a year time and block any movement on border. can afghan army have the capability to handle taliban and the new guys accordingly ??

 

[BRAVO_]

rather than flaming lets see the counter narrative... Iran has a population of about 80 million people out of which 9% are Sunni muslims, Most Sunnis in Iran are Kurds, Larestani people (from Larestan), Turkomen, and Baluchs, living in the northwest, northeast, south, and southeast

In Pakistan about 15% are Shia Muslims which makes them in a significant number. militaries of both countries are already over stretched interm Pakistan is busy in couping with TTP and other terrorist in FATA and Iran is busy in dealing with ISIS and other groups in Iraq and Syria.

Pakistan has a long border with India to take care ... Iran has a long coastal belt with GCC to take care.

Both countries are poor to indulge in any new war since both of them are consuming their military budgets in already opened fronts

Last thing ... Paksitan and iran never had serious border issues in past (other than minor skirmishes) and the way things are evolving, it is in good interest of both countries to maintain healthy and brotherly relations.

 

[A-Team]

Yes he said so by blocking every possible afghan movement on border and building 3 tier fencing same as on eastern side.

tell me one thing, if we send back 6 million afghan back in a year time and block any movement on border. can afghan army have the capability to handle taliban and the new guys accordingly ??

You are missing the point here man, you can build whatever fences you want to stop the common man but when you issue passports for your proxies then it defeats the purpose.

Anyways build whatever you want, as long as you kick the Talis out I am ok with that

rather than flaming lets see the counter narrative... Iran has a population of about 80 million people out of which 9% are Sunni muslims, Most Sunnis in Iran are Kurds, Larestani people (from Larestan), Turkomen, and Baluchs, living in the northwest, northeast, south, and southeast

In Pakistan about 15% are Shia Muslims which makes them in a significant number. militaries of both countries are already over stretched interm Pakistan is busy in couping with TTP and other terrorist in FATA and Iran is busy in dealing with ISIS and other groups in Iraq and Syria.

Pakistan has a long bord with India to take care ... Iran has a long costal belt with GCC to take care.

Both countries are poor to indulge in any new war since both of them are consuming their military budgets in already open fronts

Last thing ... Paksitan and iran never had serious border issues in past (other than minor skirmishes) and the way things are evolving, it is in good interest of both countries to maintain healthy and brotherly relations.

Spin it the way you want, but the fact remains you have troubles with all your neighbours with the exception of China, well even China has complain about Chinese militants being trained in Pakistan.

Genuine internal discourse needed in Pakistan.

 

[BRAVO_]

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Spin it the way you want, but the fact remains you have troubles with all your neighbours with the exception of China, well even China has complain about Chinese militants being trained in Pakistan.

Genuine internal discourse needed in Pakistan.

my friend then name a country in the region who has good relation with every one around ? i will appreciate if you will increase my knowledge

 

[Jaam92]

Well seems like India is feeding Afghan and Iran Well
That's why they dare to.

 

[war&peace]

We have to drone them inside pakistan...

Iran is not USA so don't even think of it as the blow back will be extremely catastrophic. Furthermore, even USA has been warned and Pakistan is not in any mood to tolerate any such strikes from uncle sam.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Stop crying iranians if you have problem just seal the border . don't be a sisi .

If it were so easy, the world would have eternal peace.

 

[~|Cyanide|~]

There is a Latin phrase called "cui bono" meaning who benefits? Though many of the people here are defending their personal bias what actually is required is an objective assessment using logic. It is certainly not in Pakistan's interest to destabilize Iran or vice versa. Both nations are conducting joint military drills because both of them realize the fact that their stragic interests are connected so it makes sense that none of these two nations would like to harm their mutual interests. I will not point fingers towards anyone but one must ask about who stands to gain in this scenario. Solution is simple work on joint border management & conduct joint intelligence based operations to root out any possible threats to both our countries on either side of the border. Frequent communication and interaction between both countries will help in avoiding situations like these in future.
My condolences to the Iranian's over the tragic loss of their Men.