Forbidden technologies for Pakistan by USA.

[truthfollower]

Oscilloscopes, Logic analyzers, Design software and design fixtures. This has crippled our economy from within.

then from where we buy our oscilloscopes?

 

[fitpOsitive]

then from where we buy our oscilloscopes?

Mostly second class stuff from other countries or in some cases smuggling. But we pay 10x price of small things like these.

 

[Nasr]

I was about to do some Vlsi project in Pakistan, but seems like Pakistan is not allowed to even download embedded system development software. Moreover, it also seems like Pakistanis are also not allowed to use software related to embedded systems and VLSI design, which are offered by companies of US origin. Main parts are Mentor, Xilinx, Cadence etc.
So my question is, is USA our friend or enemy?
This also answered my old question: why in Pakistan we don't have big VLSI industry working.
I don't know whether other software industry is also getting affected or not.
So, here I would like to request the guys sitting in big positions in Pak govt to clear up this issue with US officials that they should relook upon this dark and deep embargoe on Pakistani people and Pakistani market.
If they say no, then from my side, it's already an all out war against Pakistan. And we should respond to it.

@ps3linux please tag others as well.

America has never been Pakistan's friend, it's always been a country of idiots in power, who are slaved to the zionists.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

I was about to do some Vlsi project in Pakistan, but seems like Pakistan is not allowed to even download embedded system development software. Moreover, it also seems like Pakistanis are also not allowed to use software related to embedded systems and VLSI design, which are offered by companies of US origin. Main parts are Mentor, Xilinx, Cadence etc.
So my question is, is USA our friend or enemy?
This also answered my old question: why in Pakistan we don't have big VLSI industry working.
I don't know whether other software industry is also getting affected or not.
So, here I would like to request the guys sitting in big positions in Pak govt to clear up this issue with US officials that they should relook upon this dark and deep embargoe on Pakistani people and Pakistani market.
If they say no, then from my side, it's already an all out war against Pakistan. And we should respond to it.

@ps3linux please tag others as well.

Can you send the links for those softwares? I will try to download these from European vps.

Also note that if some thing is banned its not the end of the world. Its their own loss. Every western tech has now Chinese or open source alternative available.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Can you send the links for those softwares? I will try to download these from European vps.

Also note that if some thing is banned its not the end of the world. Its their own loss. Every western tech has now Chinese or open source alternative available.

I have access to original software, so thanks for your offer.
My point is, if someone wants to start a business in Pakistan in this field and want to become the part of the global ecosystem, then he simply can't because of US embargoes.

This thing might change lives of Pakistani engineers to the extent, that many Embedded system Engineers in India charge more than 40 lakh INR per month. And there thousands of them, just because USA doesn't stops companies from going there. I want to bring this ecosystem to Pakistan too. Its not very hard, will take around 15 years, but with surety.

But USA, ah USA.

Imran Khan thori si tawajh dy is taraf tu sary daladar door hojain Pakistan k or Pakistanion k.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

 

[Mujahid Memon]

I have access to original software, so thanks for your offer.
My point is, if someone wants to start a business in Pakistan in this field and want to become the part of the global ecosystem, then he simply can't because of US embargoes.

This thing might change lives of Pakistani engineers to the extent, that many Embedded system Engineers in India charge more than 40 lakh INR per month. And there thousands of them, just because USA doesn't stops companies from going there. I want to bring this ecosystem to Pakistan too. Its not very hard, will take around 15 years, but with surety.

But USA, ah USA.

Imran Khan thori si tawajh dy is taraf tu sary daladar door hojain Pakistan k or Pakistanion k.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

Bro many Pakistanis are doing research work in embedded systems both local and abroad. Do you know about RISC-V project. One of the biggest RISCV research company Sifive's ceo is a Pakistani.

I myself work with embedded systems but so far I have not faced any limitation because of my nationality. Can you please give more exact examples of what things are specifically banned for Pakistan/i?

And that 40 lakh INR per month figure is completely unbelievable. Maybe someone or a few is making that much money but then few Pakistanis also make such amount, its not average figure.
Technical courses on Edx and Coursera specifically mention that students from Iran, Cuba and Crimea are not eligible for enrolling in those courses, but no such limitation for Pakistan.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Bro many Pakistanis are doing research work in embedded systems both local and abroad. Do you know about RISC-V project. One of the biggest RISCV research company Sifive's ceo is a Pakistani.

I myself work with embedded systems but so far I have not faced any limitation because of my nationality. Can you please give more exact examples of what things are specifically banned for Pakistan/i?

And that 40 lakh INR per month figure is completely unbelievable. Maybe someone or a few is making that much money but then few Pakistanis also make such amount, its not average figure.
Technical courses on Edx and Coursera specifically mention that students from Iran, Cuba and Crimea are not eligible for enrolling in those courses, but no such limitation for Pakistan.

You are still student or may be you are working with some local company in Pakistan. It will harm you, at least not much appearantly.
But all Pakistani nationals, local or abroad, can not work with all EDA and FPGA tools, not legally. That's the reason why no company in Pakistan is doing business in this field..

 

[Mujahid Memon]

You are still student or may be you are working with some local company in Pakistan. It will harm you, at least not much appearantly.
But all Pakistani nationals, local or abroad, can not work with all EDA and FPGA tools, not legally. That's the reason why no company in Pakistan is doing business in this field..

Yes I work in a local company and so far I have not worked any serious task that require fpga. But still I would be glad if you point me to some evidence.

 

[PDFChamp]

I was about to do some Vlsi project in Pakistan, but seems like Pakistan is not allowed to even download embedded system development software. Moreover, it also seems like Pakistanis are also not allowed

Sounds like you are trying to do something positive with helping to establish embedded sw industry. But, this is news to me as well. I have not seen such restrictions. Here is a typcial list:
You agree that none of the Licensed Materials may be downloaded or otherwise exported or re‐exported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria

 

[fitpOsitive]

Yes I work in a local company and so far I have not worked any serious task that require fpga. But still I would be glad if you point me to some evidence.

Just look at category 3

404 FILE NOT FOUND

www.bis.doc.gov

Some how some where Pakistan is also part of these embargoes, openly. But I cannot find any particular reference to the sanctions that particularly addresses application of this category on Pakistan.
But if you try to download EDA tools from Pakistan, you will be denied, stating that Pakistan is under sanctions.

 

[Xone]

@fitpOsitive
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@truthfollower

Oscilloscopes, Logic analyzers, Design software and design fixtures. This has crippled our economy from within.

then from where we buy our oscilloscopes?
you can buy UNI T oscilloscopes easily from Lahore. Logic analyzers are easily available in the local market.

let me know what you are looking for. once I used to learn about electronics and embedded systems.
perhaps I may help you how you can get what you are looking for?

I would request the webmaster to make a section for Help request
where anyone may post his request for his problems and others may send him some tips and tricks to get out of his problem.

 

[ps3linux]

But why? It's a small thing.

He is a question in answer to your question:

Why high tech industry of US started placing embargo on export to Pakistan, what changed during that era particularly around Y2K bug era?

Why Singapore origin website are not easily accessible to Pakistan, why there is usually a two step verification and many a times denial to Pakistani IPs?

What is common between these countries, why their high tech industry seems to be in a Pakistan Denial Stance?

You find the common denominator, and you will find the reason.

Guess "Bhangi"

 

[S.Y.A]

Main parts are Mentor, Xilinx, Cadence etc.

Cadence, Mentor, and Synopsis is allowed (but very expensive). btw, i have a cracked version of vivado 2019.

But all Pakistani nationals, local or abroad, can not work with all EDA and FPGA tools, not legally. That's the reason why no company in Pakistan is doing business in this field..

FPGA is banned yes, EDA no. now for the second part, that is because paksitani industrialists are hadharam, and dont want to adopt new technologies. look at the IT sector: only a few companies are into that, all the rest think that setting up a sugar mill, ata mill, textile factory or building housing societies is the way to go. another reason is the lack of knowhow about this field. Govt must take steps to promote fab-less design like it did with the IT industry.

 

[truthfollower]

He is a question in answer to your question:

Why high tech industry of US started placing embargo on export to Pakistan, what changed during that era particularly around Y2K bug era?

Why Singapore origin website are not easily accessible to Pakistan, why there is usually a two step verification and many a times denial to Pakistani IPs?

What is common between these countries, why their high tech industry seems to be in a Pakistan Denial Stance?

You find the common denominator, and you will find the reason.

Guess "Bhangi"

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yes for example windows 10 map at the time of Nokia, maps were available for Pakistan, but not anymore and access to website is blocked for pakistan

 

[Enigma SIG]

Funnily if you access filezilla forums from certain ptcl locations the ip is blocked. I once mailed them about the issue and here's what they said

the IP address or address range you are using has been abused by
spammers. To repeal the ban a written confirmation by the registered
owner of the IP address range is needed, asserting that all machines
using this range have been cleaned of malware and that all users have
been educated in basic computer security and human decency.

LOL.