Florida Pulse gay club attacked in Orlando - 50 dead and 53 injured

[gambit]

I don't know. I'm not an expert on this issue, not a law-maker or a psychiatrist. I don't know the best solution for US.

Then do not talk.

I'm just sharing my opinion.

If your opinion is not based upon facts and reason, it is worthless, sorry to say that.

But not every country in the world being haunted by mass killings done by it's citizens...

I have been to your country, buddy. I can find plenty of things to criticize.

The point here is that if you want to opine on something about a country that is as alien to your citizens as the Moon is to us Earthlings, examine your own knowledge and/or do some research if necessary, before you speak.

Law enforcement is always reactive, meaning we respond only AFTER the event. If you want to be proactive, then admit you have an oppressive police state.

 

[-SINAN-]

but many countries are being haunted by jihadist killings, yours and mine included.

That's another issue to be resolved.

What's i'm saying is, whatever might be the motive behind these attacks, attackers can obtain heavy weaponry due to gun laws.

 

[Red-Bull]

That's another issue to be resolved.

What's i'm saying is, whatever might be the motive behind these attacks, attackers can obtain heavy weaponry due to gun laws.

no, US gun laws are not the problem here, even if they ban guns and become like most of the other countries in that respect, the criminals and terrorists will still always manage to get them.

Their constitutional right to own firearms is actually a pretty great thing imo, there is a saying that goes 'an armed society is a polite society'

 

[-SINAN-]

Then do not talk.


If your opinion is not based upon facts and reason, it is worthless, sorry to say that.


I have been to your country, buddy. I can find plenty of things to criticize.

The point here is that if you want to opine on something about a country that is as alien to your citizens as the Moon is to us Earthlings, examine your own knowledge and/or do some research if necessary, before you speak.

Law enforcement is always reactive, meaning we respond only AFTER the event. If you want to be proactive, then admit you have an oppressive police state.

I don't understand why you are getting angry....

In my country crazy mofos don't have access to heavy weaponry but in yours they can obtain and they commit mass killings.

I'm not a citizen of US, i'm not the one to find a solution...If you insist, i would say;

- Either create a system where you can detect crazy mofos and not allow them to have weapons.
- If you can't create such a system, don't give guns to civilians.
- If you say, it's the right of every US citizen to have a gun....then these incidents will continue to happen.

But it's not my place to say anything, your country, your rules.

 

[gambit]

I don't understand why you are getting angry....

In my country crazy mofos don't have access to heavy weaponry but in yours they can obtain and they commit mass killings.

How do you know they are crazy ?

 

[-SINAN-]

no, US gun laws are not the problem here, even if they ban guns and become like most of the other countries in that respect, the criminals and terrorists will still always manage to get them.

Their constitutional right to own firearms is actually a pretty great thing imo, there is a saying that goes 'an armed society is a polite society'

Let's agree to disagree.

 

[gambit]

Let's agree to disagree.

That is a coward's way out. You took a position. Defend it.

 

[-SINAN-]

How do you know they are crazy ?

Do you ask ...."how could you know beforehand they commit the mass killing" ? I dunno...

- Either create a system where you can detect crazy mofos and not allow them to have weapons.
- If you can't create such a system, don't give guns to civilians.
- If you say, it's the right of every US citizen to have a gun....then these incidents will continue to happen.

That is a coward's way out. You took a position. Defend it.

Lol, i don't get the hype.....

I'm saying this.

What's i'm saying is, whatever might be the motive behind these attacks, attackers can obtain heavy weaponry due to gun laws.

However, you are asking me a way, "To both have the gun laws, and be able to prevent crazy mofos from obtaining heavy weapons"..... and i gave you my reply.

 

[gambit]

Do you ask ...."how could you know beforehand they commit the mass killing" ? I dunno...

Fine...Then let us say that since your religion have ideas that people can interpret in many ways and do harmful things to other people, let us ban that religion.

See how stupid that sounds ?

Do you support that you have the right to A religion, any religion ? Do you believe that you have the right to take on any religion without taking a mental health test for it ? If you answer 'Yes' to both, then apply that to cars, knives, and guns.

 

[livingdead]

I like the US system of ordinary people allowed to have gun to defend themselves, gun is a great equalizer as some US comedian(bill burr?) said once... and somebody like me who is barely 70kg, it gives me an opportunity to defend myself. I am a law abiding citizen with no known mental health issues, so I would not mind having a gun.

The issue is 'other people'... everybody else out there(except my extended family) are retards/****les and dangerous with gun... I would prefer to live in a place where I am not at constant threat(of police brutality, home invasion, armed robbery)..

 

[-SINAN-]

Fine...Then let us say that since your religion have ideas that people can interpret in many ways and do harmful things to other people, let us ban that religion.

See how stupid that sounds ?

Do you support that you have the right to A religion, any religion ? Do you believe that you have the right to take on any religion without taking a mental health test for it ? If you answer 'Yes' to both, then apply that to cars, knives, and guns.

Look, to a point you are right, in your comparison.

Let's say, you banned Islam...and these jihad related incidents ceased to exist. But there will be still incidents with other motives, like that guy shoot 7 people because he couldn't get laid. You can't ban all of the motives behind the attacks.

Ban the guns.... all incidents ceased to exist. (mass shootings)

 

[Jf Thunder]

What are you blabbering about? What has Daesh to do with KSA? None of its leaders are from KSA, it was not founded in KSA or by any Saudi Arabian individual. Nor has it anything to do with KSA. There are more Chechens in ISIS than people from KSA despite KSA bordering Iraq/Syria directly and being a fellow Arab country. Despite Chechens only numbering 3-4 million people worldwide.
Anyway why do you need to include KSA and Arabs in a thread that has nothing to do with KSA or Arabs? Then you complain about Indians doing the same with Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Maybe you should look up your ethnicity (Baloch) despite numbering less than 10 million and their role in Al-Qaeda and Islamic militancy. Few rivals out there.

The mastermind behind 9/11 was a Baloch:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed

Also I believe that Pakistan has quite a problem with Baloch terrorists do you not? You can't stop obsessing about the 450 million Arabs it seems. Pathetic.



Mr. Baloch,

I was not the one who started blabbering about ethnicity or in this case KSA or Arabs which have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Let alone Daesh. You were. Have you already forgotten this?

As for the rest of your post, I have not argued otherwise. Terrorists and mental cases like this one represent 0,0001% of their ethnicity, nationality etc. everywhere. Nor has this action anything to do with Islam or anything remotely sane. However you shall not expect to be able to write nonsense about KSA, Arabs etc. and think that no Arab user here will question your bullshit.

Lastly why don't you blame KSA, Saudi Arabians and to a lesser degree other Arabs for everything negative that every single of the 1.6 billion Muslims do? After all what is today KSA is the cradle of Islam. Of Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Sufism etc. You name it. I would not put it past you to do so, lol.

oh shut up Arab, the Middle East around you burning, the whole world is blaming you for exporting terrorism, Bin Laden was one of yours, you rivaled USA in the fundings of the Taliban, your waging a war in a foreign country, you at least have no right to point fingers at other

 

[vostok]

Normal people die every day throughout the world, and nobody cares. But when someone killed a bunch of faggots, it becomes the number one news.

 

[livingdead]

Normal people dies every day throughout the world, and nobody cares. But when someone kills a bunch of faggots, it becomes the number one news.

lol.. your think tank is overflowing

 

[gambit]

...banned Islam...

Ban the guns....

Some ideas are so absurd that they do not deserve even the benefit of being in the hypothetical.