"Fencing has divided our nations & families on both sides. We want to have an atmosphere that doesn’t require fencing"- Taliban

[Hyde]

So the Pashtun heartland is in Pakistan and they are a minority in their own country?

Throughout history, the majority of Afghanistan was simply a territory controlled by different empires. They were never a sovereign nation.... It's as if a monarch from Iran or Central Asia conquered one city... They declared victory over the entire region of Afghanistan.... However, after the demise of Nadir Shah in the 18th century, things changed, and they desired to form their own state... But the point is that they began in Afghanistan and expanded their territory to include Delhi... Why not claim Delhi or Lahore?

When the region was taken over by largely Sikhs and then the British... They were primarily concerned with preserving Afghan territory... And at the time, Kandahar and Peshawar were two of the most important cities... historically, Kandahar has been their most important city, followed by Mazar-e-Shareef, Peshawar, and Kabul. But that's a storey for another time. Mongols, Turks, Persians, and Pakistanis cannot claim to govern over Aurangzeb's Kingdom, which ruled over 90% of the Indian subcontinent in the 17th and 18th centuries, due to his language and creed.

Afghanistan will progress very quickly when they stop living in the past and open their eyes in 21st century

 

[Aesterix]

Taliban have no right to tell Pakistan how to run Pakistan. Taliban should worry about their own mess.

 

[Hyde]

Sir you are not completely taking into account the benefits. A 1.7m sq km nuclear armed state at one of the most significant geostrategic location in Asia. Both from defense and economic point of view.

South India hates North Indians also.

This will address the root cause of their hate. Serious obstacles are there, I do not disagree. But if both countries show the same sentiment it is not as impossible as it seems.

Anyways they are not claiming our territory, they want free movement across the border both 2 and fro.

Sir can you combine the thread with the already existing one. I think their is one, as I remember seeing this interview clip before on the forum albeit under a much less radical and misleading title.

@jus_chillin

Brother

US and Canada can become 1 country as they share so much but Pakistan and Afghanistan are two very different nations. First of all they look us through the spectacles of Punjabis... Then all they care about is Pushto speaking parts of Pakistan and then they are tribal people. In Pakistan if two people fight, they punch each others face... In Afghanistan it is possible that they will explode bomb blast...

The only way forward is that Afghans see the reality and wake up and accept Durand Line. We can be modern example of brotherly nations like US and Canada but only if the border line is mutually respected

 

[mudas777]

When Afghanistan has a GDP per capita of Switzerland, then we can talk, else jog on.

Even Switzerland have got border controls with their neighbours. We are not cutting ties with Afghans, just asking them to go through the border controls. We can increase the border crossings but still fence will stay and border controls will be observed at all cost.

 

[Dalit]

this forum and mods seem to be favoring taliban

LOL what are you going to do about it?

 

[Zibago]

[]

Not going to happen, the fence and security arrangements are non negotiable, and Afghanistan has no ability to change that decision.

After watching some videos from Chaman I am not so certain about that

this forum and mods seem to be favoring taliban

The entire world is

Wake up

 

[Wood]

The security threat from Afghanistan has now become a non-issue. Is there an economic interest for Pakistan in finalizing the Durand line? Will the free movement of people not help the economy of the region?

Speaking of US and Canada, the free border movement has helped both countries economically.

 

[truthfollower]

The entire world is

on this specific issue of Durand line?

 

[aziqbal]

very sensible post

what they basically are saying two brother nations dont need fence

although I understand this I think we keep it up since we spent so much money on them

just use official gates for entry and exit

Taliban are decent people deal with them in a respectful way they will response in kind

point a gun at them then heaven help you

 

[Patriot forever]

Brother

US and Canada can become 1 country as they share so much but Pakistan and Afghanistan are two very different nations. First of all they look us through the spectacles of Punjabis... Then all they care about is Pushto speaking parts of Pakistan and then they are tribal people. In Pakistan if two people fight, they punch each others face... In Afghanistan it is possible that they will explode bomb blast...

The only way forward is that Afghans see the reality and wake up and accept Durand Line. We can be modern example of brotherly nations like US and Canada but only if the border line is mutually respected

It was a wild thought, but holds its merits.

Anyways yes we can emulate Canada and America in this regard. They do allow cross border movement I think but just for tourism etc but work permit for job, if one needs to stay longer.

I think that will be the most accurate representation of IEA point of view. But we do have very obvious concerns, from our point of view.

They basically want how our relations were before American invasion.

 

[MuhammedAli]

If they want fencless border region then entire Afghanistan should become Pakistan ... Gradually on yearly basis afghan territory should join Pakistan until all of it has been obsorbed. Otherwise Talibani fckheads fack off like all of you mf afghans.

 

[Patriot forever]

very sensible post

what they basically are saying two brother nations dont need fence

although I understand this I think we keep it up since we spent so much money on them

just use official gates for entry and exit

Taliban are decent people deal with them in a respectful way they will response in kind

point a gun at them then heaven help you

I think what most people think when they hear the word Afghan is Manzoor Pashteen/communist turned ethnofascist or Saleh/Ghani. Taliban do not like these types as well.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1432235530377441283

Afghan Taliban do honour their word, and they do share brotherhood sentiments with us. They do not want our land, their only concern is movement.

An alliance on format of EU or America Canada is what they envision.

They are not our enemies unless you make them one ( which will be very hard to do). One thing I am sure of they will not allow any foreign entity to use Afghan land against Pakistan to the best of their ability/capacity.

 

[Pak_Sher]

Fencing needs to be completed & fully monitored. Cannot let lunatics from across the border roam freely. Indian agents also good walk through or any other terrorists. Keep the border sealed. Also Indian Agents with Iranian covert support sneak in through Iran and that border should be sealed as well.

 

[cloud4000]

So far, Taliban wants open border contrary to the notion being said in 1st tweet. Secondly, TTP is already told to settle matter by Taliban and they have disowned them as well. However, if one loves to believe otherwise, I will leave you to whatever convince you.

I guess we can split hairs all day, but I will take your word for it. First, is Pakistan keen on the idea of an open border between the two countries? As for TTP, is the Taliban is okay to the idea of Pakistan taking the TTP out with military force within Afghanistan territory?

 

[FuturePAF]

If what they want is free movement of people, as in the Schengen agreement in Europe, a similar level of trust and political/economic development needs to achieved in both nations. A roadmap to such an agreement is not a bad thing as long as it doesn’t undermine the territorial integrity of either nation. Until then, for the sake of security, caused by third party miscreants, a fence is a hard-built necessity. Pilot projects can be started at one of the 78 border crossings to allow members of the tribe split by the border to cross with just a special ID card.