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Erdogan's Twisted Logic: S-400 Must Not Shoot Down Turkish Jets Over Syria Read more: http://sputni

Grandsons of Seljuks and grandsons of Roman Byzantine empire (Russians) do not like each other too much, and Russians want to take revenge of defeat of Byzantine empire by Seljuk empire.

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Dimitri Obolensky. The Relations between Byzantium and Russia (11th-15th Century) / Сервер восточноевропейской археологии

Saving the Third Rome. “Fall of the Empire”, Byzantium and Putin's Russia - IWM

Turks say we ruled ME via Ottoman empire and Russians say we ruled ME for centuries before you ever put feet in ME.

Mark my words.
 
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What if s400 are painted in Syrian colours and fired at Turkish planes and say that Syrian national army fired at the enemy plane to defend their country, what will the turks do?
I don't think russian need to do that.Just shoot some turkish planes down straightly will be enough.
 
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What i wonder is; there is French, UK, US aircraft flying above Syria everyday...what would happen Russia downs and US aircraft by mistaken it for Turkish.....:what:

upcoming year is election year...

Nothing good for Russia in Syria...Putin is an a*shole, but he isn't a stupid a*shole.
 
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Belated happy thanks giving. :tup: sadly President Obama pardoned a a turkey, now it's Putin's turn.
 
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that is immaterial... syrian airspace is what the syrian government decides and not some nato crooks.

didn't know you were into propagandizing cia's fake-jihad and delusional zia-fans claims of defeating ussr.

disappointed by you.

I have NO idea what the heck you are referring to......Russia was broken because of her financial instability to sustain a long term war. If they had the money and the power to run for longer, they could've crushed the little jihad crap, which was the worst thing that happened to countries like Pakistan as it destroyed their internal ability to function like a normal nation.

The US has the financial backing and the power, its remained involved in Afghanistan and Iraq for 15 years. If the Russians had that, they would still be a USSR. So don't spend what you don't have and don't go to wars if you can't sustain them. Its a purely financial issue.

I hate these retarded jihadi bast*ards every second of the day. Because of thee bast*ards and inhumane barbaric human garbage that my city, NYC was struck in 2001, and I watched that shit with my eyes, and lost people I knew very well!!! So you have the wrong person there if you think I have any care for these barbaric morons. By the way, likes of these bast*ards have now started to show up in your country, ONLY under the Hindusim disguise!! Hindus murdering others because they eat beef. If this is the start of Hindu jihad, I don't know where the end would be.

Organized religion, that supports violence, should be a universal crime and should require an immediate UN response with full military of different countries like NATO, to crush this crap before it even takes roots.

There are plenty of crooks in the ME, India, Pakistan and Russia too. So an airspace issue between Syria and Turkey doesn't involve an outsider like Russia. They fukk with the Turks, they'll for sure get into a situation that will further break their empire. For people like you, see youtube videos of Russian people standing in line to get food and that wasn't enough at times. So always spend what you can afford to, overspending bankrupts you and breaks a country like the history tells us!!
 
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who's "we"? america or pakistan? because from what i read in pakistani media, pakistan dont give a fuk :lol:
We includes UK govt since it is part of NATO first lets look at what NATO have to say shall we:
WORLD | NATO supports Turkey in dispute with Russia over downed fighter jet | Lynde Langdon | Nov. 24, 2015
Clearly full solidarity with Turkey i think that means whatever Turkey did was right says the NATO
Now if you reside in UK and a UK citizen lets see what your Govt have to say about it shall we?
David cameron urges 'communication' after turkish fighter downs russian warplane | Daily Mail Online
read the statemnt of the spokesman for your govt very very very carefully.:lol:
Now i currently reside in USA and i know what Prsiedent Obama had to say about it
Obama: Turkey has the right to defend itself - CNNPolitics.com
And in regards to Pakistani support and solidarity with Turkey there is absolutely Zero doubt if there is poll in Pakistan you will see Pakistani support Turkey. I dare you to prove me wrong
reason 1 They are a muslim country
reason 2 They are our brothers and we never ever ever had any bad relations and always treated each other equally
reason 3 Pakistan being a major non Nato ally will support Turkey

So my brother i think you don't read media correctly. And yes we Pakistanis do give a fuk we do get criticize for that, but hey guess what? it is what it is.:toast_sign:
Me personally i believe LONG LIVE TURKEY PAKISTAN TWO PILLARS OF MUSLIM WORLD ONE IN EAST AND ONE IN WEST AND WITH IN THESE TWO PILLARS ISLAMIC WORLD EXIST.
Regarding Russia personally i can never forget that Russian weapons and Russia itself have spilled Pakistani blood and lots of it a country also partly responsible for division of my country Pakistan.
 
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What i wonder is; there is French, UK, US aircraft flying above Syria everyday...what would happen Russia downs and US aircraft by mistaken it for Turkish.....:what:
they say they have mistaken the identity of the airplane and then refuse to apologies .

honestly i think they can trace the origin of the airplane and decide to shoot it or not.
on other hand i hope they don't shoot Turkish airplane while I believe they had the right
to retaliate but honestly what the region right now need is deescalation of the situation
not escalating it more.
 
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they say they have mistaken the identity of the airplane and then refuse to apologies .

honestly i think they can trace the origin of the airplane and decide to shoot it or not.
on other hand i hope they don't shoot Turkish airplane while I believe they had the right
to retaliate but honestly what the region right now need is deescalation of the situation
not escalating it more.
Do you know, how a fighter plane identify another plane's nationality ? If you say "yes" ,please explain. If you say "no" it means that you are biassed in your comment. And please don't ask me for the answer.
 
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Do you know, how a fighter plane identify another plane's nationality ? If you say "yes" ,please explain. If you say "no" it means that you are biassed in your comment. And please don't ask me for the answer.
the radar track the planes from the time they began their flight and the bras at the ground knew which airbase is used by which country.
by the way it not important , you simply won't shoot down an airplane when you are no at the war with that country for several second of violation of air space you escort it out, as a matter of fact it was not even several second of violation by them if your map is true it shows that the second that airplane entered your airspace you shoot it down , the plane was no even 20m in your space before you fired the missile.
and more importantly if you really mistake the identity of the airplane ethics dictate that you apologize for your mistake, isn't it so ?
 
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whats wrong with pakistani people

Very wrong.
On this I agree with Turkey. Although what Turkey did was a clear aggression, needless and illegal but the situation should be solved peacefully. However under Islamic law, Russia has the right to destroy a Turkish airplane of equal value and one Turkish pilot.

What you really mean here ? why you people have to drag religion in every thing. I know you don't care about how stupid you sounded but atleast think twice about the flag you are representing in front of international posters.

Turkey's PM has a point here. Unless Turkish planes fires at Russian jets, Russia has no right to shoot down any Turkish fighter jet on Syrian airspace. Syrian airspace doesn't belong to Russia. Since everyone are having a field day on Syrian skies these days, Turkey can do what ever she likes to protect her interest at that part of the region just like others. Yes if Turkey indulges with Russian fighter jets intentionally than its a totally different ball game.
 
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