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Turkey can't even manage terrorists at its borders while France projects its power throughout the world with interventions all over Africa,the ME.

LOL!!

Where did France project power? Central African Republican? Lmao wow..

Turkey is militarily present in Syria and Iraq, has basis in Indian Ocean and Africa, and is much more relevant to Middle East than France can ever be.

Anyways, your gibberish is old and boring. Bring something scholarly and of some worth.

Turkey is regarded as a second tier consequential power along with Britain and France. You can cry about it all you want. I'd trust think tanks, and experts from Yale rather than a gypsie online
 
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LOL!!

Where did France project power? Central African Republican? Lmao wow..

Turkey is militarily present in Syria and Iraq, has basis in Indian Ocean and Africa, and is much more relevant to Middle East than France can ever be.

Anyways, your gibberish is old and boring. Bring something scholarly and of some worth.

Turkey is regarded as a second tier consequential power along with Britain and France. You can cry about it all you want. I'd trust think tanks, and experts from Yale rather than a gypsie online

Imao, A few soldiers in Syria and Iraq is hardly military presence. Lets be honest here, calling it a military presence is to much of an exaggeration, especially given that their illegally there as well thereby will be inevitably kicked out. And I'd hardly call those "bases". Please mate, Turkey is not even close to the level of Britain & France.
 
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Imao, A few soldiers in Syria and Iraq is hardly military presence. Lets be honest here, calling it a military presence is to much of an exaggeration, especially given that their illegally there as well thereby will be inevitably kicked out. And I'd hardly call those "bases". Please mate, Turkey is not even close to the level of Britain & France.

LOL, as I said mate..it's not me but International think tanks and geopolitical experts that put Turkey in the same list as U.K., France etc. Turkey doesn't have few soldiers in Syria. They went in there with tanks, and air support as well.

What military presence U.K. Has outside the Island? Nothing at all.

In terms of influence and being a consequential power, Turkey trumps U.K., and France when it comes to Middle East. On global level, all three powers are second tier powers as stated by the annual issue of Yale experts looking at influence of states in modern system.

You all can live in dreams of your own and what not, but Yale experts, Friedman, think tanks will like to disagree.
 
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LOL!!

Where did France project power? Central African Republican? Lmao wow..

Turkey is militarily present in Syria and Iraq, has basis in Indian Ocean and Africa, and is much more relevant to Middle East than France can ever be.

Anyways, your gibberish is old and boring. Bring something scholarly and of some worth.

Turkey is regarded as a second tier consequential power along with Britain and France. You can cry about it all you want. I'd trust think tanks, and experts from Yale rather than a gypsie online

If you think that Turkey deploying troops in the bordering countries is the same as countries like France projecting its power and sustaining overseas operations (logistically etc.)......

France is involved in operations in Africa,in Middle East and maintain also a military presence in these continents.

It has soldiers all over the sahel,in western Africa,in eastern Africa,in Lebanon,Syria,Iraq in the EAU. France sent an aircraft carrier with an escort group to Syria/Iraq and also deploys equipments (such as artillery) in the area.
We are the 2nd country deploying the more aircrafts (36 Rafale) after the U.S.

Our overseas territories allow us to maintain a presence all over the world.

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Same goes for the british forces.

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Guys, seriously stop comparing Turkey with UK and France..... we are behind them almost in every field.

Yes, i believe we have potential to catch up with them at the future.....but even if we play all our cards well....not before then 50 years at least.
 
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If you think that Turkey deploying troops in the bordering countries is the same as countries like France projecting its power and sustaining overseas operations (logistically etc.)......

France is involved in operations in Africa,in Middle East and maintain also a military presence in these continents.

It has soldiers all over the sahel,in western Africa,in eastern Africa,in Lebanon,Syria,Iraq in the EAU. France sent an aircraft carrier with an escort group to Syria/Iraq and also deploys equipments (such as artillery) in the area.
We are the 2nd country deploying the more aircrafts (36 Rafale) after the U.S.

Our overseas territories allow us to maintain a presence all over the world.

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Same goes for the british forces.

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UK\France is one level higher than turkey
Turkey\KSA\Iran are in the same level, maybe because oil, KSA\Iran is a little higher than turkey
 
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UK\France is one level higher than turkey
Turkey\KSA\Iran are in the same level, maybe because oil, KSA\Iran is a little higher than turkey
Iran is nothing without Oil. They'd be a bankrupt hellhole without their natural resources.
Lets not compare Turkish cities or tourism to Iran either , we crush them.
As for UK, they have a stronger soft power than us at the moment, but, we're catching up.
Turkey is the only regional power along with Russia.
 
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Guys, seriously stop comparing Turkey with UK and France..... we are behind them almost in every field.

Yes, i believe we have potential to catch up with them at the future.....but even if we play all our cards well....not before then 50 years at least.

Well, a word of advise, you`re going in the wrong direction. Get rid of Erdogan.

Iran is nothing without Oil. They'd be a bankrupt hellhole without their natural resources.
Lets not compare Turkish cities or tourism to Iran either , we crush them.
As for UK, they have a stronger soft power than us at the moment, but, we're catching up.
Turkey is the only regional power along with Russia.

Well no shit they`d be bankrupt, are you serious? Every country would be bankrupt without its natural resources. Do some research about Iran before you talk about Irans cities. You clearly don't know much which is typical for a a greywolf. Turkey has little to no influence outside its own borders. I don`t consider turkey to be a regional power in the mideast because Turkey has failed in its foreign policy in every way possible in Iraq and Syria. Do something right before you call yourself a regional power. Canada is more of a regional power in the region LMAO.
 
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You have a very good logic and turkey also demolish below building to ease all Europe pain

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I hope this will help you to reconsider your bullshit comments.

do as you wish. im italian. we are roman catholic. this building means nothing for us.

Nope, that again is another emotional statement. So I disagree. It's like some people from the developing world who keep wishing nuclear powers like U.S, U.K, France will go to war with Russia(even though we all know that will never happen for obvious reasons.lol) . just like thinking western powers will ever invade Turkey for some silly reason is just laughable. There's is absolutely no reason or way we would do that. Serves n o interests at all. The one we did wth Iraq has caused more than enough instability in the ME already, plus Turkey is a NATO member. So what silly logic are you implying to invade a NATO member. Lol

who talks about invasion. turkey erodes into a failed state. sooner or later we will see how we can stabilize it
 
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UK\France is one level higher than turkey
Turkey\KSA\Iran are in the same level, maybe because oil, KSA\Iran is a little higher than turkey

Not one, but several higher. Truth be told, after the US, it's Russia, U.K and France that have more power projection (not just military but also diplomatically and ability to influence nations around the world) capabilities than any other country . Plus these countries are involve in military operations around the world, with their troops/bases scattered around the world. something none of the other countries mentioned above even comes close to(apart from their wildest dreams). LMAO :lol:
In fact we have more military bases/global military presence than any other nation on earth apart from the U.S. Only France and Russia to some extent can even compare/come close.
 
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If you think that Turkey deploying troops in the bordering countries is the same as countries like France projecting its power and sustaining overseas operations (logistically etc.)......

France is involved in operations in Africa,in Middle East and maintain also a military presence in these continents.

It has soldiers all over the sahel,in western Africa,in eastern Africa,in Lebanon,Syria,Iraq in the EAU. France sent an aircraft carrier with an escort group to Syria/Iraq and also deploys equipments (such as artillery) in the area.
We are the 2nd country deploying the more aircrafts (36 Rafale) after the U.S.

Our overseas territories allow us to maintain a presence all over the world.

View attachment 348508

Same goes for the british forces.

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That list is incomplete, we have troops/military presence in Jordan, Syria, Kuwait, we have a military presence and influence in all these countries. plus the map doesn't include our military bases/presence in Ascension islands in middle of the Atlantic Ocean(south America) and Indian ocean base in Diego Garcia etc etc.

LOL, as I said mate..it's not me but International think tanks and geopolitical experts that put Turkey in the same list as U.K., France etc. Turkey doesn't have few soldiers in Syria. They went in there with tanks, and air support as well.

What military presence U.K. Has outside the Island? Nothing at all.

In terms of influence and being a consequential power, Turkey trumps U.K., and France when it comes to Middle East. On global level, all three powers are second tier powers as stated by the annual issue of Yale experts looking at influence of states in modern system.

You all can live in dreams of your own and what not, but Yale experts, Friedman, think tanks will like to disagree.
SOME(not all obviously) of you Pakistanis are really delusional . LMAO. Maybe its due to the country's poor educational institutions/level or simply naivety or better still inferiority complex or something. lol. Probably the latter, since you rather brag about others achievements than yourself.Just something i have noticed on here.:D This delusional bragging for Turkey (more than the REAL TURKS themselves who don't even believe in your rants) is part of this unusual complex phenomenon as well. :lol:
 
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That list is incomplete, we have troops/military presence in Jordan, Syria, Kuwait, we have a military presence and influence in all these countries. plus the map doesn't include our military bases/presence in Ascension islands in middle of the Atlantic Ocean(south America) and Indian ocean base in Diego Garcia etc etc.


SOME(not all obviously) of you Pakistanis are really delusional . LMAO. Maybe its due to the country's poor educational institutions/level or simply naivety or better still inferiority complex or something. lol. Probably the latter, since you rather brag about others achievements than yourself.Just something i have noticed on here.:D This delusional bragging for Turkey (more than the REAL TURKS themselves who don't even believe in your rants) is part of this unusual complex phenomenon as well. :lol:

You don't have any influence in Syria, US and Russia does. Your still living in 1945s. Your influence these days over countries is very small. You do have bases but that is it.
 
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You don't have any influence in Syria, US and Russia does. Your still living in 1945s. Your influence these days over countries is very small. You do have bases but that is it.
Luckily the Trumpmeister win is giving Europe rhe perfect momentum for higher defence spending.
 
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do as you wish. im italian. we are roman catholic. this building means nothing for us.

That is the difference between you and us my friend. We are not allowed to destroy any religion buildings. It is forbidden in Islam
 
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