Era of wars over, ready to resolve all issues with India: Pakistan

[DRaisinHerald]

It is infact Urdu...which is a mixture of Hindi(the spoken language in the region), farsi and other Turkish and Persian languages..which the invaders brought with

Still debating on Hindi?

Urdu/Hindi comes from Khariboli, a language of Delhi spoken around the Delhi Sultanate Era. They adopted it, and it was mainly spoken by the army (as the courts spoke Farsi). They started incorporating alot of Farsi and Arabic into it; and eventually as the shift from Delhi Sultanate to Mughal empire happened, the locals increasingly started to call it 'Rekhta' and Zaban e Ordu ('Mixed' and 'language of the army'). Urdu eventually developed to a further extent under the Mughals and spread to various parts of the Subcontinent, mainly spoken by Muslims and also Hindus.
After the British came, the abolished Farsi and enforced Urdu upon the local population, which by this time also started to call this language 'Hindi' and 'Hindustani'. It was written in 2 alphabets as well by this time.
After the partitioned happened, India adopted 'Hindi' (and finalised the split of Urdu-Hindu language) and Pakistan adopted 'Urdu'.

These languages were still pretty similar during the early days of India and Pakistan. Indian gov. however started to add more Sanskrit derived vocabulary and enforced that in schools. This was for 2 reasons:try to get rid of as much as 'foreignness' from it, and to make is similar to other languages being spoken in India (they were a lot 'purer' and closer to S.skrit).

Anyway, read around this topic a bit, especially the role it played during the partition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi%E2%80%93Urdu_controversy

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Read the 'Sanskritization' bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Hindi#Sanskritization

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Man.. you guys are rewriting history with every post of yours

It's either me re-writing history, the historians or you lot. And I'm pretty sure the latter is true
Go read up on your own language before shooting bullets made of Crap cultivated in Bharti farms.

 

[Agni5000]

Still debating on Hindi?

Urdu/Hindi comes from Khariboli, a language of Delhi spoken around the Delhi Sultanate Era. They adopted it, and it was mainly spoken by the army (as the courts spoke Farsi). They started incorporating alot of Farsi and Arabic into it; and eventually as the shift from Delhi Sultanate to Mughal empire happened, the locals increasingly started to call it 'Rekhta' and Zaban e Ordu ('Mixed' and 'language of the army'). Urdu eventually developed to a further extent under the Mughals and spread to various parts of the Subcontinent, mainly spoken by Muslims and also Hindus.
After the British came, the abolished Farsi and enforced Urdu upon the local population, which by this time also started to call this language 'Hindi' and 'Hindustani'. It was written in 2 alphabets as well by this time.
After the partitioned happened, India adopted 'Hindi' (and finalised the split of Urdu-Hindu language) and Pakistan adopted 'Urdu'.

These languages were still pretty similar during the early days of India and Pakistan. Indian gov. however started to add more Sanskrit derived vocabulary and enforced that in schools. This was for 2 reasons:try to get rid of as much as 'foreignness' from it, and to make is similar to other languages being spoken in India (they were a lot 'purer' and closer to S.skrit).

Anyway, read around this topic a bit, especially the role it played during the partition

Hindi

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Read the 'Sanskritization' bit.

Standard Hindi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thats not correct. I am from Odisha, we speak Odiya. It is similar to Hindi. It is very old language dating back to muslim rule in India.

 

[shuntmaster]

OOh. Im soo disappointed.. What happened to the promise of 1000years war?
What happens to Ghazwa-e-Hind? I was hoping to see the lal topiwala riding a white horse and a double edged sword in hand coming through the wagah border post on the GT road to Delhi to hoist the green flag on the red fort and listen to his cute voice on radio Pakistan New Delhi....
This Gilani guy has been a big disappointment to many of us, on either side of the border..

 

[Rafi]

As expected the indians did what I expected them to. They are what they are.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Still debating on Hindi?

Urdu/Hindi comes from Khariboli, a language of Delhi spoken around the Delhi Sultanate Era.

Khadi Boli is a pre-Islamic dialect, just like Punjabi or Bengali.

Standard Hindi retained the native vocabulary, Urdu used a lot of foreign words. That's all.

 

[Rusty]

It is infact Urdu...which is a mixture of Hindi(the spoken language in the region), farsi and other Turkish and Persian languages..which the invaders brought with

And who brought Sanskrit?
The invading Aryans.
Your language and religion is just as foreign to India as ours. The only difference is that the Aryans invaded thousands of years before we come along.

The only true "Indians" left are the South Indians. So kindly get rid of Sanskrit, which invaders brought, and learn Tamil.

 

[Tamizhan]

And who brought Sanskrit?
The invading Aryans.
.

BS.

The Aryan Invasion Theory crap has been relegated to the dustbin long before. Welcome to 21st century.

 

[Agni5000]

And who brought Sanskrit?
The invading Aryans.
Your language and religion is just as foreign to India as ours. The only difference is that the Aryans invaded thousands of years before we come along.

The only true "Indians" left are the South Indians. So kindly get rid of Sanskrit, which invaders brought, and learn Tamil.

pure Tamil is very close to Sanskrit.

BTW I can speak

Odiya
Telugu
Tamil
Hindi and of course English.

 

[Rusty]

BS.

The Aryan Invasion Theory crap has been relegated to the dustbin long before. Welcome to 21st century.

You can wear a tin foil on your head and deny it all you want.
But the vast majority of credible historians believe in the Aryan invasion theory. And there is a lot of evidence for it.
But of course this theory hurts your feeling so you reject it outright.
And it also shatters your victim complex of being invaded.

It is only insecure Indians who deny the Aryan invasion. While the rest of the world accepts it, especially independent historians.

 

[Agni5000]

You can wear a tin foil on your head and deny it all you want.
But the vast majority of credible historians believe in the Aryan invasion theory. And there is a lot of evidence for it.
But of course this theory hurts your feeling so you reject it outright.
And it also shatters your victim complex of being invaded.

It is only insecure Indians who deny the Aryan invasion. While the rest of the world accepts it, especially independent historians.

There is no aryan invasion to modern India. may be for pakistan.

 

[jai231179]

Today, we are living in era of wars.
All surrounding states of Pakistan are preparing for war with Pakistan.
Pakistan army is more occupied on fronts than ever before.
India has declared cold war upon Pakistan but this 'Crime Minister' of Pakistan, failed to see whats coming.

When there is a chance to work together in peace and resolve issues through dialogue mate, what is the harm done in taking that chance and working on it? Why do some of you guys always have to appear paranoid and hang onto the hostility? If India and Pakistan do get closer, both countries will immensely benefit through the numerous exchanges, cultural, trade etc etc. Alot of people's lives will improve. There'll be no soldiers on both sides dying due to mishaps and accidents in weird places humans have no business hanging around in. Terrorists will be out of a job and will need to seek employment in new industries. More economic benefit....think of the advantages mate

 

[Rusty]

There is no aryan invasion to modern India. may be for pakistan.

Ignorance is bliss

btw, for all Indians living in the 21st century and not in the dark ages.
Check out this really good documentary.
there are 6 episodes in the series

the first two does a good job of explaining the early history of India, including the Aryan invasion.

[video=google;2359467386775757720]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2359467386775757720[/video]

 

[Tamizhan]

You can wear a tin foil on your head and deny it all you want.
But the vast majority of credible historians believe in the Aryan invasion theory. And there is a lot of evidence for it.
But of course this theory hurts your feeling so you reject it outright.
And it also shatters your victim complex of being invaded.

It is only insecure Indians who deny the Aryan invasion. While the rest of the world accepts it, especially independent historians.

Keep saying it again and again. Still it doesn't become truth.

AIT = Brainfart of English colonialist historians.

New research debunks Aryan invasion theory - India - DNA

 

[Rusty]

When there is a chance to work together in peace and resolve issues through dialogue mate, what is the harm done in taking that chance and working on it? Why do some of you guys always have to appear paranoid and hang onto the hostility? If India and Pakistan do get closer, both countries will immensely benefit through the numerous exchanges, cultural, trade etc etc. Alot of people's lives will improve. There'll be no soldiers on both sides dying due to mishaps and accidents in weird places humans have no business hanging around in. Terrorists will be out of a job and will need to seek employment in new industries. More economic benefit....think of the advantages mate

The problem is that India is not open to resolve all the disputes and have peace.
Musharraf did everything in his power to resolve the major issues.
He came to India with an extended hand.
India simply was not interested and sent Musharraf home with nothing to show for it.

 

[punjabimunda]

The problem is that India is not open to resolve all the disputes and have peace.
Musharraf did everything in his power to resolve the major issues.
He came to India with an extended hand.
India simply was not interested and sent Musharraf home with nothing to show for it.

issues are complex broo have patience.