Egypt has placed order for Su-35s

[Imran Khan]

What os price tag .

 

[Philip the Arab]

What os price tag .

At least 2 billion USD.

 

[SipahSalar]

Mig-29 and Su-35 have identical avionics and weapons package so logistics won't be a problem for at least these two planes. That said, I think it would have been better to either buy 50 Mig-35s or 30 Su-35s rather than a mixture of both.

 

[bsruzm]

They don't need the manpower. They have the strongest air force, navy, and best land equipment among the Arab states. The U.S. wants them to lead it and so do most of the allies of the Arab states including the Europeans.

Trust me, Trump wants the Saudis to lead the group. And what he says goes.

You sound like it's anything but an Arabic initiative.

 

[Quasar]

My be it is time for Egypt to focus on long term plans as well ''Tunder block III or TFX''

 

[cabatli_53]

Egypt created a paralel universe in armed forces from SAMs to tanks, aircrafts, radars. It is not possible to operate them under same network so training of whole soldiers for same strategy will always be a problem. Readiness level of Egyptian paralel universes will always lack behind of other state. At a likely conflict, Paralel universes of Egypt will have to create own situation awareness to perform stand alone striking/defensive operations while other side is sleeping or not aware of what is going on in other universe. Israeli strategists must be happy to see such a complicated collection in Egypt. Sorry to say but That is one of the most amateurish procurement strategy the World has ever seen. Egyptian public should voice some criticism to people who waste public money to create such a giant logistic nightmare. Whoever supporting this weapon collection must have a reason for being a happy fanboy in order to see different weapons with naked eye in parades, postcards and military exhibitions..

 

[BATMAN]

What does foreign office has to say about the Egyptian su's

Foreign office is marketing of Pakistan.

 

[Abdelrahman]

With this trend you are going to say the same if a war occurs between Egypt and Israel that IAF had 5th Gen F-35 and EAF had 4.5 Gen so Egypt lagged behind.

Of course. We knew well that fighting the Israelis means fighting the Americans. You have to search about the Nickel grass operation during our last Ramadan war with the Israelis and the military bridges conducted from the US and its military bases specially in Turkey (Incirlik base) by this time to compensate for all the Israeli losses. Also, the direct intervention of SR-71 blackbirds stealth planes in the war. It's obvious for everyone that each president who comes to US presidency have to confirm that he will guarantee the Israeli superiority in the entire region in advance. Have you ever seen any country in the world that operates F-16s, F-15s & F-35s together with their best versions and in large numbers? .. We know well that in case of war against Israel, we will be lagged behind by means of equipment as usual and specially the air force capabilities (even any other country will be lagged behind against Israel in this aspect), but as you said it is not only the equipment that finishes any war despite being a very important factor. The US refused to give Egypt the F-15s before because of an Israeli request . That's why also we are trying to narrow the gap and diversify the sources of our weapons because we don't trust the US even against any other enemy.

Mig-29 and Su-35 have identical avionics and weapons package so logistics won't be a problem for at least these two planes. That said, I think it would have been better to either buy 50 Mig-35s or 30 Su-35s rather than a mixture of both.

Each one of them has a job to do. Egypt was operating the Russian Mig-21, the Chinese F-7, the American F-4 phantoms, the American F-16s, the French Alpha-jet, the French Mirage 5 and the French Mirage 2000 all together without any logistical problems. Only now some jets are replacing older ones from the same origins.

 

[Philip the Arab]

You sound like it's anything but an Arabic initiative.

Of course. We knew well that fighting the Israelis means fighting the Americans. You have to search about the Nickel grass operation during our last Ramadan war with the Israelis and the military bridges conducted from the US and its military bases specially in Turkey (Incirlik base) by this time to compensate for all the Israeli losses. Also, the direct intervention of SR-71 blackbirds stealth planes in the war. It's obvious for everyone that each president who comes to US presidency have to confirm that he will guarantee the Israeli superiority in the entire region in advance. Have you ever seen any country in the world that operates F-16s, F-15s & F-35s together with their best versions and in large numbers? .. We know well that in case of war against Israel, we will be lagged behind by means of equipment as usual and specially the air force capabilities (even any other country will be lagged behind against Israel in this aspect), but as you said it is not only the equipment that finishes any war despite being a very important factor. The US refused to give Egypt the F-15s before because of an Israeli request . That's why also we are trying to narrow the gap and diversify the sources of our weapons because we don't trust the US even against any other enemy.



Each one of them has a job to do. Egypt was operating the Russian Mig-21, the Chinese F-7, the American F-4 phantoms, the American F-16s, the French Alpha-jet, the French Mirage 5 and the French Mirage 2000 all together without any logistical problems. Only now some jets replaced older ones from the same origin.

You going to be more active on the Arab defense forum or is this a one time thing? I say this because you have 22 posts in 4 years.

 

[bsruzm]

You going to be more active on the Arab defense forum or is this a one time thing? I say this because you have 22 posts in 4 years.

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[A.P. Richelieu]

We purchased some from Jordan with the US approval. More are in the pipeline.

Assuming you can get approval.
Pakistan and the US are not exactly on good terms.

 

[Philip the Arab]

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I quoted you by accident I was talking to @Abdelrahman

 

[Mentee]

Assuming you can get approval.
Pakistan and the US are not exactly on good terms.

You don't want us to operate any more f16?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-35 is a heavy hitter. Egypt already operates MiG-29M/M2.

 

[Philip the Arab]

You don't want us to operate any more f16?

Its not a matter of want, its a matter of possibility. The U.S. has to sign off the deal for you to get the F-16s and knowing Pakistan's current relationship with the U.S. it is very unlikely you will ever get them even if Jordan wants to give you them. The deal could have been signed during the Obama era and now in the Trump era the deal is unlikely to amount to anything.