Early Child Marriage Bill To Be Tabled In NA Soon; Says Dr. Mazari

[M. Sarmad]

No. Just don't.
Puberty is the criteria of marriage, not age.
Islam allows marriage after puberty whichever age it comes.
Because hormones change and urges come.
If a girs physically adult at 11 , she should be allowed marriage if there's a need.
Legally forcing her to wait another 7-8 years is not fair and we will end up like western countries

@Retired Troll, this^^ exactly is the position held by Classic Fiqh that you were so vigorously defending in the other thread saying that what was applicable 1400 years ago is applicable today as the basic facts of life remain the same. But here you are not defending it ?!! Hypocrisy? ignorance? or just trolling?

 

[Dubious]

A Law not accepted shall not be implemented but with force and oppression.

Well, law is law....forced or not if it is the law, it is meant to be implemented!

Hix taxes does not feed the other person. Allah does.

Technically speaking, there is no man-o-salwa these days so, yes money feeds people!

As far as producing more than you can care for. I am sorry but that is directly addressed in Quran the holy book of Muslims and Bible which says Be Fruitful and Multiply for Thy Lord provide sustenance to Sand and the Mountains.

I think you are quoting the bible!
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[El Sidd]

@Retired Troll, this^^ exactly is the position held by Classic Fiqh that you were so vigorously defending in the other thread saying that what was applicable 1400 years ago is applicable today as the basic facts of life remain the same. But here you are not defending it ?!! Hypocrisy ? or ignorance? or just trolling?

Outlining the minimum physical criteria does not mean other social aspects are forgotten.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Outlining the minimum physical criteria does not mean other social aspects are forgotten.

Why being so evasive, Rt. troll?
Do you support the position held by Classic Fuqaha regarding minimum marriage age?
Yes, or No?

 

[El Sidd]

Well, law is law....forced or not if it is the law, it is meant to be implemented!

Humans are not robots. They are likely to be lenient if they themselves do not agree with the law.

Technically speaking, there is no man-o-salwa these days so, yes money feeds people!

this is a very materialistic definition which i am not the right person to talk about. For me Allah feeds the people. They can choose to do that by halal or haram whichever they may please but they can neither eat a grain less or more than what is ordained unto them by Allah.

Rest is a matter between humans to quarrel with and they can.

I think you are quoting the bible!

I quoted the Bible but also referenced the Quranic verse.

Why being so evasive, Rt. troll?
Do you support the position held by Classic Fuqaha regarding minimum marriage age?
Yes, or No?

I was quite to the point actually.

The position of classic retro or punk fuqaha does not matter. The scrolls speak for themselves.

 

[M. Sarmad]

I was quite to the point actually.

The position of classic retro or punk fuqaha does not matter. The scrolls speak for themselves.

Do you support the position held by Classic Fuqaha regarding minimum marriage age?
Yes, or No?

 

[El Sidd]

Yes, or No?

No.

 

[Dubious]

Humans are not robots. They are likely to be lenient if they themselves do not agree with the law.

Then they shouldnt complain if they are with problems

this is a very materialistic definition which i am not the right person to talk about. For me Allah feeds the people. They can choose to do that by halal or haram whichever they may please but they can neither eat a grain less or more than what is ordained unto them by Allah.

Rest is a matter between humans to quarrel with and they can.

Allah doesnt stop man from helping himself! If he wants something, he needs to work for it. It is also shown repeatedly that do good and you get good! Do bad and you get bad! If you dont do anything, you cant expect any results!

I quoted the Bible but also referenced the Quranic verse.

Where is the reference?

 

[M. Sarmad]

No.

Good to know ...
But earlier today, in another thread, you told me that it was my indoctrinated belief that Classic Fiqh was incompatible with the modern world !!, didn't you?

 

[El Sidd]

Then they shouldnt complain if they are with problems

When soldiers were ordered to shoot the protestors in the 70s. They did not. So please try and understand the gravity of this

Allah doesnt stop man from helping himself! If he wants something, he needs to work for it. It is also shown repeatedly that do good and you get good! Do bad and you get bad! If you dont do anything, you cant expect any results!

No matter what you can do. Their will always be poor and rich and in between. This is nature of things.

Where is the reference?

I did not provide any. Anyone who aims to know can read and find on their own.

Good to know ...
But earlier today, in another thread, you told me that it was my indoctrinated belief that Classic Fiqh was incompatible with the modern world !!, didn't you?

As i said. The minimum basic requirements are there.

Anything more than that is relative to understanding of humans.

 

[M. Sarmad]

As i said. The minimum basic requirements are there.

Anything more than that is relative to understanding of humans.

And as I told you earlier, Classic Fiqh is a collection of stagnant and frozen rules, it cannot evolve, you have to accept it as such .. no conditions ... no ifs, no buts, no cuts

 

[El Sidd]

And as I told you earlier, Classic Fiqh is a collection of stagnant and frozen rules, it cannot evolve, you have to accept it as such .. no conditions ... no ifs, no buts, no cuts

This may just be your personal problem.

Have any muslim ruler or country ever formulated a law that every menstruating girl must be married the next day?

 

[M. Sarmad]

This may just be your personal problem.

Have any muslim ruler or country ever formulated a law that every menstruating girl must be married the next day?

Leave it troll

You have been left badly exposed.
You are a sheer hypocrite, if not a troll

Anyway, carry on ..

 

[El Sidd]

Leave it troll

You have been left badly exposed.
You are a sheer hypocrite, if not a troll

Anyway, carry on ..

I like how you keep throwing big words. You do realize that a hypocrite is a munafiq?

I have dealt with blasphemy accusations on the forum before. Hypocrisy or Munafiqat will be a cake walk.

 

[Dubious]

When soldiers were ordered to shoot the protestors in the 70s. They did not. So please try and understand the gravity of this

Say what?

I did not provide any. Anyone who aims to know can read and find on their own.

And anyone who claims to have referenced something should provide so! Kindly stop trolling!