DRDO ready to deliver AEW&C to Air Force

[Genesis]

We were not operating globemasters or hercs when we were developing this system. Buying those expensive platforms for just 3 AEWACs did not make sense. Besides, the globemaster is a monster of an aircraft, compared to Emb-145. Why use a giant aircraft when a smaller one will do the job much more cheaply, and with a reduced logistic footprint? IAF was already operating Emb-145s, and were very happy with its performance.

BTW what is the difference between KJ-2000 and KJ-200? The internet is giving me conflicting info about which one is superior.

To me it makes sense if you were just doing 3 for globemaster, but would make less sense if you wanted to do maybe 10-15.

Obviously you would need a cheaper to operate variant, but Super hercules would still be better.

But I get it you didn't oeprate it then, what about now, any plans for the next generation AEW based on C-130.

Though I also heard India is working on its own medium transport after Tejas, any truth to this?



KJ-200 is the beam version on a Shanxi Y-8.

KJ-2000 is a AESA radar based on L-76.


The next generation will incorporate new technology from the ZDK-03 designed for Pakistan and from our own naval radars and other radar researches, and it will be based on Y-9.

KJ-500 is the one on top, KJ-200 is on the bottom.

KJ-2000

KJ-500 and KJ-3000 will make up of the next generation of AEW&C for China, KJ-3000 is the next generation radar most likely based on the new Y-20, whenever that's ready.

 

[janon]

Mate, I know almost every thing about this aircraft that is in public domain. Regarding the AESA, it's believed to be Israeli. Trust you me, it's a complex system, and there's a learning curve with AESA's.

The radar is very much Indian, and was designed at BEL. Israel would not help us with that, since they were (and still are) trying to sell us more Phalcons.

KJ-200 is the beam version on a Shanxi Y-8.
KJ-2000 is a AESA radar based on L-76.

KJ-200 also has an AESA, but in a beam - at least that's what WP states.

Also, KJ-2000 has superior performance compared to the ZDK-03, right?

 

[Genesis]

KJ-200 also has an AESA, but in a beam - at least that's what WP states.

Also, KJ-2000 has superior performance compared to the ZDK-03, right?

right I forgot what it's called in English.


KJ-2000 is based on IL-76, it's range and endurance is far greater, for AEW that's a major factor, how long it can stay in the air.

Also it can carry more and that almost always means better performance.

 

[ni8mare]

The radar is very much Indian, and was designed at BEL. Israel would not help us with that, since they were (and still are) trying to sell us more Phalcons.



KJ-200 also has an AESA, but in a beam - at least that's what WP states.

Also, KJ-2000 has superior performance compared to the ZDK-03, right?

its not bel but irde....who made the aesa array

 

[janon]

To me it makes sense if you were just doing 3 for globemaster, but would make less sense if you wanted to do maybe 10-15.
Obviously you would need a cheaper to operate variant, but Super hercules would still be better.
But I get it you didn't oeprate it then, what about now, any plans for the next generation AEW based on C-130.
Though I also heard India is working on its own medium transport after Tejas, any truth to this?

The platform for the next AEWAC has not been decided yet, but it is understood to be much larger, to house a more powerful radar and other electronics. There were rumours of either gulfstream or airbus being considered. Our next gen refuellers are going to be the Airbus one, so it makes sense on the basis of commonality.

The transport aircraft plans are rather murky. It is not dependant on the completion of Tejas though. We have already signed a deal with Russia for the joint development and manufacture of a medium weight transport aircraft. It is expected to enter service by 2018, but that seems too optimistic now. The decision to partner with Russia has been criticized - many people were suggesting licence production of the regular version of the C-130 (Not the spec ops version we have now). Anyway we will need hundreds of these, to replace AN-32s and Avros and HS aircrafts.

UAC/HAL Il-214 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The radar is very much Indian, and was designed at BEL. Israel would not help us with that, since they were (and still are) trying to sell us more Phalcons.

Probably manufactured by BEL, but not designed.

 

[janon]

its not bel but irde....who made the aesa array

Actually it was CABS that made the radar:
Centre for Airborne Systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe with help from LRDE, I'm not sure.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Actually it was CABS that made the radar:
Centre for Airborne Systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe with help from LRDE, I'm not sure.

LRDE-DRDO designed the S and L band radar for the system.

 

[janon]

LRDE-DRDO designed the S and L band radar for the system.

So what was CABS' contribution?

 

[ni8mare]

Actually it was CABS that made the radar:
Centre for Airborne Systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe with help from LRDE, I'm not sure.

nope....you can see #66

 

[Water Car Engineer]

So what was CABS' contribution?

They integrate and test the many systems designed by LRDE and manufactured by BEL.

Of course there are tot involved too.

The early warning defense system is made by BEL under tot.

 

[Kinetic]

Want something like this...


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5958/94318130.jpg

 

[surya kiran]

Actually it was CABS that made the radar:
Centre for Airborne Systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe with help from LRDE, I'm not sure.

The T R modules are by Astra Microwave. Its an Indian company. And Astra has some kind of understanding with Raytheon. Not sure what it is, though.

 

[Kinetic]

and provide some authentic link about Erieye 50 KW power claim !

And pray tell us how much your AEWC can scan as compare to Erieye 240 degrees or 300 degrees ?

NEW DELHI — India has received its the first homemade early warning and control (AEW&C) class of aircraft from Embraer, which will be equipped with homemade India gear and provided to the Indian Air Force.

of Brazil August 17 in Brazil. The AEW&C equipment , meant for use by the Indian Air Force is designed and developed by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). of India. The aircraft will be delivered to the Indian Air Force this year itself after DRDO integrates integrating some additional systems. by DRDO. [WHO MADE WHAT??GCOK]

The homemade AEW&C equipment includes AESA (an active electronic scanning antenna and a , ) radar antenna developed by DRDO’s Bangalore-based laboratory, the Centre for Airborne Systems.

The primary systems and subsystems of the AEW&CS consist of radar, identification friend or foe interrogator, microwave data link, electronic support measures, operator display consoles with tactical software, and air-to-air voice and data channels.

In addition, it will have satellite communication links and search-and-rescue capabilities.

The system’s radar will have a normal detection range of 250 kilometers and an extended range of 375 kilometers.The system will provide 240 degrees (120 degrees on either side) of coverage that can be stretched to 300 degrees with some loss of range.
The three AEW&CS are scheduled to be inducted by 2014-2015.

“Remaining AEW&C aircraft are due to be delivered to the Indian Air Force as part of a contract signed in 2008 that includes a comprehensive package for training, technical support, spare parts, and ground support equipment. These aircraft, upon entry-into-service, will join four Embraer Legacy 600 jets — currently operated by the Indian Air Force (IAF) for the transportation of Indian government officials and foreign dignitaries — and a fifth Embraer Legacy 600 which belongs to the Border Security Force (BSF), under India’s Home Ministry,” says the official release of Embraer.

In 1999, DRDO’s AEW&CS program was suspended following the crash of the homegrown Indian Airborne Surveillance Platform during test trials.

Embraer Delivers Platform for Indian AEW&C Program | Defense News | defensenews.com



Now that's what we call an authentic news, not based on conjectures , BS personal claims as authentic claims , or My Diiick > Erieye Dick

Indian awacs is X band (ieee) while Erieye is e band (nato).


its 8-12 GHz vs 2-3 GHz... think ...

 

[kurup]

Want something like this...


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5958/94318130.jpg

We have developed one in the past ........ Airborne Surveillance Platform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now we are developing a new one ......... Indigenous 'eye-in-the-sky' being developed for Indian Air Force | Free Press Journal