Does India have a history of 10000 years?

[TISSOT]

Just because it's called history doesn't mean that Its not mythical. Within the life time of an event, are there multiple source and multiple copies of each reliable sources dated back to the time of the event. If not, it's not reliable as historical record.

The Mahabharat was written by the author veda vyasa within the timeline of the event.

There are multiple reference to Mahabharata and its chronicle in multiple hindu books. The lineage of kings mentioned in the Mahabharat is also reflected in the "Ashtadhyayi" of Panini and the " Ashvalayana Grhyasutra".

The oldest kashmiri hindu book, the Nilmat Purana chronicle the lineage of the king from the Mahabharata and give reference to Mahabharata.

King Damodara of Kashmir was killed by Krishna and his pregnant widow Yasovati was coronated as the ruler by krishna. Her son Bala Gonanda then becomes the king of kashmir. This lineage is chronicled.


Similarly the Mahabhrata mentions the dynasty of Mushika and this is confirmed by the oldest hindu book in Kerala (extreme south India), called "Mushika Vamsa" which cronicles the lineage of the kings of kerala right from the time of Mahabharata. King Ramaghata Mushika being the first king.

Similarly both the VIshnu Puran and Bhavisya puran continue to chronical the lineage of kings from the Mahabharata.


SO any way you look at it, there are multiple sources in Hindu texts that provide evidence of this historical fact.


Vishnu Puran gives the description of the country known as "Bharat".


uttaram yatsamudrasya himadrescaiva daksinam,
varsam tadbharatam nama bharati yatra santatih


This means,


"The country that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy Himalayan mountains, that is called Bharatam, there dwell the descendants of Bharata"

 

[rcrmj]

There are multiple rock paintings in India that is over 15,000 years old. Those are the only archaeological "evidence" of civilization that survived since they were deep in caves.

Men riding horses and carrying weapons.

Wars being fought with swords, shields and Bow/arrows.

those random wall painting means India was 10000 years old? in that sense U.S can also have 10000+ history
do you Indian even have a slightest idea of applying common logic to debate````?
you know brain is an excellent stuff, wish you lot have it``goodness my`````

 

[Indus Pakistan]

those random wall painting means India was 10000 years old? in that sense U.S can also have 10000+ history
do you Indian even have a slightest idea of applying common logic to debate````?
you know brain is an excellent stuff, wish you lot have it``goodness my`````

They don't even have 2000 years history unless defrauding by using Indus which actually is in Pakistan.

 

[rcrmj]

They don't even have 2000 years history unless defrauding by using Indus which actually is in Pakistan.

the 'modern Indian' have to find their 'true' identities through Muslim, Persian, ancient Rome, Greek, Chinese and English records```this says so much about their faked 'history'
only the inferiors like to have tall claims without any solid prove from themselves

 

[takeiteasy]

Bhagvan Rama lived on this planet millions of years ago and first life appeared 2 billion years approximately on Earth and at the same Time Dhruv became Pole Star

Millions of years ago, whether Homo Sapiens Sapiens existed? The indigenous may be the aboriginals in India then.

 

[TISSOT]

those random wall painting means India was 10000 years old? in that sense U.S can also have 10000+ history
do you Indian even have a slightest idea of applying common logic to debate````?
you know brain is an excellent stuff, wish you lot have it``goodness my`````

US does have a 10,000 old history, just not as a nation or as a continuous civilization. Their native american civilization was almost wiped out.

India is a continuous civilization with documented history and past that goes much beyond what the cave painting depict.

This rock art depicts five horse riders hunting a giraffe.

Giraffe being a semi-desert open forest animal could have survived in Central India only up to before 5,500 BC. Thereafter the region became dense forest making giraffe extinct. Clearly horse taming and riding on the horse existed before 5,500 BC or 6000 BC in India.

So did forged weapons.


Similarly this painting depicts a Elk and Elk hunting.

However Elk do not exist in India today.

Elk lives in dry cold regions with grasses and enough water from rivers or lakes to drink. Such climate existed in Central India about 8000 BC to 5000 BC during the Holocene.

However one sub-species of Elk is still found in Kashmir till today, known as the hangul or Cervus canadensis hanglu.

The elk bones have been excavations at Mohenjo-Daro by Sir John Marshall.



Maybe you would like to use your brain to come up with a different explanation ? Like Aliens did it.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Nope !

Republic of India existed after 1947 more like 1950 , before that :

Mauryan India
Bharat
Hindustan or Mughal India
Akhand Bharat
British India



Worlds existed much before Nation States came into existence .
People make Nations
Boundaries make Countries

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Thats like Iraqis claiming that Iraq has existed for 14,000+ years.

 

[itsanufy]

They don't even have 2000 years history unless defrauding by using Indus which actually is in Pakistan.

There were not a different history of Pakistan before 1947.

 

[Nalini]

The country known as India has been around since 1947.

That applies to Pakistan not India.

Prior to 1947 also it was India, only thing is, it was ruled by British, so it's referred as British India. The entire world even at that time referred to India as India only. Only after partition since the country broke up, when mentioning something related to India of that time like Pakistan which is not in India today they bring in the statement British India.

Every body mentions India as India be it 10000 years ago or hundred thousand years ago. If you want proof check the video below. These are not Indians claiming or talking.

Tell me if you need more proof, I can give unlimited proof India was called or is referred to as India by everybody, even before Islam & Christianity came into existence they tell the history of that time giving our country's historic statement as Indians. May be except Pakistan

The name may have been slightly different, be it Bharat or India which is derived from Indus. It's been debated umpteen times in this forum, still you keep bringing up such lame arguments. First go & tell the world who use the phrase India to refer us even when they are referring to 5000 or 10000 years old history. Correct them. Then do the argument

On the flip side many fools claim Pakistan existed for thousands of years, but cannot give one proof which mentions them before 1947. This is called Insane beliefs created from their own illusions.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

That applies to Pakistan not India.

Prior to 1947 also it was India, only thing is, it was ruled by British, so it's referred as British India. The entire world even at that time referred to India as India only. Only after partition since the country broke up, when mentioning something related to India of that time like Pakistan which is not in India today they bring in the statement British India.

Every body mentions India as India be it 10000 years ago or hundred thousand years ago. If you want proof check the video below. These are not Indians claiming or talking.

Tell me if you need more proof, I can give unlimited proof India was called or is referred to as India by everybody, even before Islam & Christianity came into existence they tell the history of that time giving our country's historic statement as Indians. May be except Pakistan

The name may have been slightly different, be it Bharat or India which is derived from Indus. It's been debated umpteen times in this forum, still you keep bringing up such lame arguments. First go & tell the world who use the phrase India to refer us even when they are referring to 5000 or 10000 years old history. Correct them. Then do the argument

On the flip side many fools claim Pakistan existed for thousands of years, but cannot give one proof which mentions them before 1947. This is called Insane beliefs created from their own illusions.

15,000 years of civilisation, and you still haven't invented the toilet

 

[Nalini]

15,000 years of civilisation, and you still haven't invented the toilet

What's a toilet?

You call an invention a invention, when it is invented the first time. A invention will not have a name until it's invented. You mention Toilet & then say haven't invented. How's it possible. Think before you make such lame jokes as I mentioned in above post. You people come up with lame arguments

 

[Alternative]

How do "we" know Ram was not one of the vedic gods ?

If he is mentioned in the vedas, that makes him one of the Vedic gods.




IVC having images of horses or not having images of horses is irrelevant to the issue. They may be important to you, but not in the over all scheme of things.

The cave paintings of horses have been dated to over 8,000 BC.

http://www.academia.edu/8378646/Bhimbetka_Horse_with_riding_10_000_years_old

The theories of a vast majority of Indologist in the world are a joke. There is no need to make a mockery of them, they do a good job themselves. Rajiv Malhotra has published multiple books stripping bare their ignorance, prejudice and bigotry.




Yes and Yes. You can google it. The survey was done by the ASI so publication is a must.

In fact Bhinbetka has been declared a UNISCO World Heritage site.

Domesticated horses are mentioned in the Vedas and Ramayana. They cave painting only provides collaborative evidence.

The oldest painting in Bhimbetka is over 30.000 years old.



Indus flows form India to pakistan.

Its the Hindu civilization that made Indus famous, the Indus did not make the Hindus famous.

If you want to start using your ancestors name and reject arabic names and religion, be my guest.

Maybe the Americans can learn from you too and start adopting Native american names and history too.

There is no proof of domesticated horse in Subcontinent prior to Aryan invasion/migration.
Surveys done and was found that drawing were drawn over thousands of years period, and drawing of horses are not dated beyond 1500 B.C.
And Rama the 7th avatar is not a Vedic god.

 

[Rajput battalion]

Rakhigarhi, a village close to
Bhirana, is the largest Harappan
site in the world. Excavations by ASI
and an ongoing one by the Deccan
College has revealed that the site
is spread over 400 hectares, nearly
double that of Mohenjo Daro in
Pakistan.

 

[Alternative]

Your writing system is hieroglyphics.

We abandoned that system 3000 years back and create a new one called the Brahmi script.

The oldest written evidence of Brahmi script is from 500 BC.

There is nothing to prove. Hindu civilization existed in India for thousands of years.

To put it in better words, the civilization that existed in India for thousands of years was called "Hindu"

You admit that Brahmi script is of around 500 B.C. and yet you make claims of 15000-8000 B.C period civilization?
What script that old civilization was using......................?

There is nothing as Hindu Civilization...
More important IVC is altogether different and alien to Vedic Civilization.

The Saptarsi calendar of the Hindus measured a cycle over 27,000 years and was based on the Precession of the earth. IT was literally a star map and the measure of time was based on the movement of stars.

How can this be possible without a written script ? Its impossible.

And this was the calendar in use before the Kali calander which itself stared in 3102 BC.



Like India, the world Hindu is only useful to identify the culture and civilization in the land within the walls of the Himalayas and the 3 oceans.

A rose by any other name will still smell the same.


Call them sanathana dharma if that makes you feel any better.

Greeks used to name the Land of Indus as Indika or Indica some 500 B.C.
Before that the 'local' literature' (Vedas) identified that portion of land as SeptaSindu, that is, Land of 5 rivers of Punjab, Indus and Saraswati (Ghaghar & Hakra)..... No information is availble regarding northern or central or eastern of southern subcontinent.
Greek referral to Indika was reference to a land, like now we use the terms like Central Asia or Europe etc
There was no nation of Indika, or India or Bharata during that time..... who knows what people or nations or tribes populated that lands of central, eastern, southern subcontinental at that time frame.

Saptasari calender, the interpretation of wrote of 27000 years; Many other hindus scholars interpert the Yuga Cycle of spanning over billions of years or millions of years........... Your thinking is pure speculation on your part.

 

[TISSOT]

There is no proof of domesticated horse in Subcontinent prior to Aryan invasion/migration.
Surveys done and was found that drawing were drawn over thousands of years period, and drawing of horses are not dated beyond 1500 B.C.
And Rama the 7th avatar is not a Vedic god.

There is no evidence of any Aryan migration/invasion or proof of any kind, yet your keep claiming this. At best this is just a "Theory". A thoroughly discredited one.


Refer to my earlier post about men on horses hunting a giraffe and how that was not possible after 6000 BC.

Here is another picture of a man with bow and arrow with a freshly captured horse has been roped at several places. The belly has been tied, and head and neck too. The legs have been tied with the shoots of the creeper plants.

This picture cannot belong to 1000 BC or 600 BC, because there was no wild horse living in Central India at that time. The wild horse became extinct from Central India by 5,000 BC and from northwest India about 6000 BC when the ecosystems changed from grassland to forest.


Also you are unaware of the concept of Avatar.

Avatar is the state of being when the "god consciousness" descends in a human being. There are a total of 24 Avatar. The Dashaavatara of Vishnu only names the prominent 10 Avatars. Its commonly misunderstood as a physical birth of a god. Its just the physical manifestation of the Vishnu consciousness.


In the Dashaavatara few of the Avatar is not even from this Kalap or existing universal time line. Its from an earlier Kalpa.