I say it with great sadness.
But believe you me, when it comes to Pakistan, we get shafted by both RSShites and CongresShites. Doesn't make a diff for us as to who is ruling Bharat.
With Pakistan both are terrible, one with Kirkit and one without (cricket) but the end result is the same.
Indira Gandhi was no Hindutvadis or was she? She still did all she could to destroy Pakistan.
for Pakistan the difference has only been in their styles. Congressites are soft spoken lath baz and Hindutvadis not so.
Whatever their difference is, ONLY applies to Bharat's internal situation. or in other words internal relationship between diverse groups who form the large body politic of Bharat.
That's where Congress can do much better than Hindutvadis. Why?
Hindutvadis have started their pogroms with black ink but it will go all the way to pointy end of swords.
with dashed hopes for Peace!
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You need a sound and resonable discussion or just want to point scores? If you would like a resonable discussion, then here are the facts.
1- None of the political party can change foreign policy of India...It is a base line of politics..Do not go by the words what political party says in election..Election rallys are just like Bollywood opera..They say so many things but on ground they exactly does whatever they feel good for India on foreign policy.
2- Congress with Indira Gandhi is very much same BJP with Narendra Modi. It is not like BJP or Congress policy influences their policy rather these 2 people are strong leader by their personality. So they will do certain things which they feel good for nation.
3- India's view of Pakistan in 1980-1990 is different than India's view of 2015. Wheather you accept it or not, it is a different thing. But it has changed. Classic example is myself. Now, India in 2015 simply do not hate Pakistan.
Even also I am a BJP and Modiji fan, i do not like BJP or India should be seen in front of people of Pakistan as a Pakistan hater. Hate is a very strong word. So if you can see many perception of many BJP supporter too, they do not take it kindly for issues where Pakistan Cricketers, Artists and any people related initiative with Pakistan is opposed by BJP....That signifies that even the most righting people and the BJP party follower, differentiates between the good people of Pakistan and the terrorist element within Pakistan...Again, i am not questioning how much it is true. But it is a fact from ourside.
4- None of Indian public will opine about going for war with Pakistan expect some people from Norther India cow belt zone..But again, Norther Indian cow belt zone is not all about India..They are a part of it. If you ask people from South, East and of course many people from Norther states, they criticize Pakistan as an irritant, but not like we can going for a war and use nuclear bomb for Pakistan...No it is completely hell no.
5- So in a nutshell, perception to Pakistan is changing because Pakistan has slightly changed in last 30 years...Rather Indian peoples ambition and aspiration has moved on. You can of course question my assumption. But we see Pakistan as an irritant but do not like go after Pakistan to kill all people...Because Indian people think that there are so manythings to do for us rather than shouting Anti Pakistan slogans on the street..
In all these assumptions, i also have to congratulate that Indian see, Pakistan because of their failed attempt to use Ismalic proxies as their foreign policy which was used in 1980-1990 also started putting trust on democratically elected Gov. That also another factor which we see as a difference in Pakistan which we feel positively.
Hence, yes, you are right, on the ground, there is no difference to Pakistan whoever rules India...
off course it was traced back.
your Modi and yoru gen. Manekshaw on record for atrocities much before Mumbai.
What Bahrati goons did in E Pakistan
What bharatis did in Karachi
in Balochistan.
Loss of 200 is huge.
But don't forget 1000 time more killed by Bharati supported terrorists.
Kaantay say kaanta slogan is yours not ours.
Let us buy your words for a moment....Then why your people and Gov was not competent enough to pressurize India diplomatically to India if your statement is true. Why do not you take steps to preserve the dignity of your nation when you understand that your people are murdered by RAW. Why you did not take evidence and go to United Assemply and presented with facts to pin down India? No body stopped to you to do so, so if you did not do it, that does not mean, India will not do it when it is getting impacted in Mumbai. This is where Pakistan diplomacy faltered. You thought, because RAW is doing in Pakistan and Pakistan is not doing anything diplomatically, India will do the same. That is where India made a first move by diplomatically winning and scoring point to make the world beleive that Pakistan is all behind the Mumbai attack...Now, once perception is created it is difficult to come clean in international terrorism.
So dear friend, think rationally, both played dirty games and on the ground, you always won because, you always have the spare terrorist out of Afgan war, but India does not have that luxury so it failed in creating terrorist in Pakistan to create havoc in your coutry. But one thing India succeeded is to make its case in front of global community where Pakistan is seen as state who use terrorism to succeed with its foreign policy...
We need to get rid of them,that will continue until Tri-Color is not fluttering on Lahore Fort or Sabaz Hilali Parcham is not fluttering on Red Fort.
"Akash Par do Suraj nahi ho saktey,miyaan mai do shamshirery nahi ho saktey, aur Kabul aur Irrawaddy kay darmiyan do Mahrajey nahi ho saktey"
"Two suns on Sky never,Two sabers in one cover never ,Two Emperors between River kabul and River Irrawaddy never"
India or Pakistan one will have to go down sooner or later..........
Did any one say it in India?? Completely useless statements...Whoever in India might have told it, might be gone completely mad...We should be content with whatever we had try to increase the quality of live of the people who are with us rather than thinking idiotic...Same applies for your Pakistan too.