COMMANDER UKRAINE AIR FORCE, VISITS AIR HEADQUARTERS

[Ultima Thule]

Do you recall me posting a thread in january i guess, China which is already partner in huge ukrainian engine firm, further investing and buying the ukrainian counterpart’s share to become sole owner or high stake partner in that company ?
I forgot it, but that was a news, maybe i tagged you on that as well.

bro China also have blueprints of AN-225 Maria and plan to build improve version of AN-225 or if i am not mistaken China buy Anatove aircraft manufacturing company

 

[StormBreaker]

bro China also have blueprints of AN-225 Maria and plan to build improve version of AN-225 or if i am not mistaken China buy Anatove aircraft manufacturing company

ACM Sohail Aman did plan on Commercial aircraft building capacity for Aviation City. PAF has much on cards. Wait for the time, pray...

 

[Ultima Thule]

ACM Sohail Aman did plan on Commercial aircraft building capacity for Aviation City. PAF has much on cards. Wait for the time, pray...

long way to go, if China struggling to manufacturing commercial aircraft, most of their indigenous commercial jets projects like ARJ-21/C-919 are using foreign avionics/engine and other components

 

[bafxet]

When you read Ukrain, what comes first into mind with regard to Defence? Even though, there isn't much clear for this visit. Could have been a routine PR visit or I would like to talk about Engine thingy.

Engines for Alkhalid tank that's for PA. But for PAF don't know

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Ukraine could plausibly be interested in AZM. It's an apparent FGFA outside of the traditional East and West camps. If Ukraine is serious about modernizing their air force on the long haul, then some minor funding, R&D, tech support, etc for AZM could come.

 

[airomerix]

ACM Sohail Aman did plan on Commercial aircraft building capacity for Aviation City. PAF has much on cards. Wait for the time, pray...

A twin engine turbo prop aircraft is currently on the design board at PAC Kamra.

After recovering SAAB 2000's, our engineers have developed expertise in some fields and this twin engine turbo prop aircraft will be sold to airlines and used for Maritime support and AEW&C by the end of this decade.

 

[HRK]

by the end of this decade.

u mean by the end coming decade 2030 .... ???

 

[airomerix]

u mean by the end coming decade 2030 .... ???

The first aircraft should roll out by 2025/2026

Based on its performance, the maritime and AEW&C versions will be inducted around 2027/2028.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

A twin engine turbo prop aircraft is currently on the design board at PAC Kamra.

After recovering SAAB 2000's, our engineers have developed expertise in some fields and this twin engine turbo prop aircraft will be sold to airlines and used for Maritime support and AEW&C by the end of this decade.

I think that and the fact that the PAF has an FGFA is starting to draw some interest. Sure, we might not move any orders to the most lucrative markets, but the likes of Ukraine, South Africa, Nigeria, Brazil, etc lack luxuries. So, I think we'll start seeing more visits from 'middling states' in the coming years, especially as things materialize. And if no one's interested in being customers, then there are definitely those who want in on the supply chain (which is where the likes of Brazil, Ukraine and South Africa can excel).

 

[airomerix]

I think that and the fact that the PAF has an FGFA is starting to draw some interest. Sure, we might not move any orders to the most lucrative markets, but the likes of Ukraine, South Africa, Nigeria, Brazil, etc lack luxuries. So, I think we'll start seeing more visits from 'middling states' in the coming years, especially as things materialize. And if no one's interested in being customers, then there are definitely those who want in on the supply chain (which is where the likes of Brazil, Ukraine and South Africa can excel).

Also, most countries are moving towards military expansion which is a being seen as a global issue. This means more cuts from the annual budgets and declining investment in the acute and underlying issues such as poverty, climate change and epidemics.

However, the reality is that most countries cannot afford hi-end EU or American weapons. Their cheaper solutions (such as F-16V, Hawk trainers) are no longer cheaper. Hence, products like JF-17, Mushak, L-39, Chinese alternatives will be on cards for these countries.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Also, most countries are moving towards military expansion which is a being seen as a global issue. This means more cuts from the annual budgets and declining investment in the acute and underlying issues such as poverty, climate change and epidemics.

However, the reality is that most countries cannot afford hi-end EU or American weapons. Their cheaper solutions (such as F-16V, Hawk trainers) are no longer cheaper. Hence, products like JF-17, Mushak, L-39, Chinese alternatives will be on cards for these countries.

I wonder if PAC's twin-engine turboprop could also end up as the PAF's solution for a lightweight transport (basically takeover from the role the CN235 was supposed to assume in greater numbers).