COAS Gen. Kayani Urges Less Spending on Defence

[Mercenary]

Well, they have the same Mercedes that Mush used 10 years back.

While your CM Sindh has the latest S-Class, bullet proof i might add.

Your CM Sindh has sought to buy a new Executive jet to replace the Learjet 45 they bought 4 years ago, and that learjet has very low flying hours.

The new aircraft is going to cost alot, and from the public expenditure.

And what is the need for having a minister of Weather Change, a minister of Capital development, a Minister for food security and research???

Which mansions do the generals live in? Major Generals live in houses no larger than the one I have in Isl.

The top chiefs might have big houses, but not mansions by any means.
Do you even know where the COAS lives? No you dont. Because you can't see that in Canada.
Your answer will be appreciated.

Lol man. I visited Pak recently and I was given a tour by my cousin for the various general's houses. And trust me they were massive houses.

As for German Cars, I see Mercs in Pakistan all over the place and many of them have government tags or milirtary tags meaning they are used by military higherups such as Generals.

 

[RazPaK]

Lol man. I visited Pak recently and I was given a tour by my cousin for the various general's houses. And trust me they were massive houses.

As for German Cars, I see Mercs in Pakistan all over the place and many of them have government tags or milirtary tags meaning they are used by military higherups such as Generals.

Government tags for Military General's vehicles?

 

[Jango]

Lol man. I visited Pak recently and I was given a tour by my cousin for the various general's houses. And trust me they were massive houses.

As for German Cars, I see Mercs in Pakistan all over the place and many of them have government tags or milirtary tags meaning they are used by military higherups such as Generals.

mercs used by generals???

The only mercs in military are of COAS, DG ISI, and CJCSC maybe.

All others are not mercs , just corollas to the generals, DGMO might have one as well.

Government does not have much mercs either.

And trust me friend, You visited pak for maybe a month, but I have visited various generals houses, and never seen a mansion or opulent house.!!!

Again I ask you, do you know where Kayani lives?

 

[Mercenary]

mercs used by generals???

The only mercs in military are of COAS, DG ISI, and CJCSC maybe.

All others are not mercs , just corollas to the generals, DGMO might have one as well.

Government does not have much mercs either.

And trust me friend, You visited pak for maybe a month, but I have visited various generals houses, and never seen a mansion or opulent house.!!!

Again I ask you, do you know where Kayani lives?

I dont know where he lives.

 

[Jango]

As for German Cars, I see Mercs in Pakistan all over the place and many of them have government tags or milirtary tags meaning they are used by military higherups such as Generals.

And I seriously doubt that you would have seen any military staff car with a military number plate in the past 1 to 2 years.

Woops, got busted there buddy.

 

[Mercenary]

And I seriously doubt that you would have seen any military staff car with a military number plate in the past 1 to 2 years.

Woops, got busted there buddy.

Well i didnt see them driving those imported cars but their kids.

I went to a party in defence, and my cousin introduced me that this is that general's son and that is that major's son and that is that colonel's son and all of them had bmw, mercs and audis.

So how the hell can their kids affrod these expensive cars on a common soldier's salary unless they r scheming money on the side.

 

[Jango]

I dont know where he lives.

Then which generals house did you see, a opulent mansion as you called it?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

i find it funny how you are feeling happy over what some Lashkars can do to civilians those armed lashkars dont stand a chance against our military they'll be with their 72 and you guys will be chanting Janazah in no time in that case well i do not blame you your country has had its a$$ kicked by us in every war so you really must have nothing to feel good about....

feeling happy? are you an idiot or something? If that's how you read my post, then my hypothesis about you bhartis and your mental retardations and mental complexes would in fact be corroborated

last time i checked you guys retreated with your tail between your butt in Kargil did you not forgot how your leader ran to the USA seeking desperate help from Bill Clinton?

well there's a good reason why after 1999, he was no longer ''our leader''

and speaking of poverty our poverty rates are decreasing per annum whereas your poverty rates are increasing

i wont break forum rules by going into poverty in india...quite frankly - our economy is operating sub-par but Pakistanis (minorities included) are MUCH better off in Pakistan than they are in india

you can't just look at formal economy when the size of informal economy is fairly substantial enough NOT to be ignored (albeit difficult to quantify)

similarly, you have to look at the indian vs. 'western' view of poverty in india to get a greater picture

 

[Jango]

Well i didnt see them driving those imported cars but their kids.

I went to a party in defence, and my cousin introduced me that this is that general's son and that is that major's son and that is that colonel's son and all of them had bmw, mercs and audis.

So how the hell can their kids affrod these expensive cars on a common soldier's salary unless they r scheming money on the side.

Well, now you have retraced from you original statement, so I seriously doubt your credibility now!

And in Karachi or lahore or isloo?

 

[Mercenary]

Then which generals house did you see, a opulent mansion as you called it?

Bro I dont remember the name of the Generals. But I saw gigantic houses in very posh and expensive areas.

And trust me the cheapest houses there were atlest 2 or 3 crore.

Well, now you have retraced from you original statement, so I seriously doubt your credibility now!

And in Karachi or lahore or isloo?

Seeing their kids drive expensive cars means the generals have enough dough to buy these cars for the kids which means they always have a side income or are being given way more money than required.

It was Lahore, the Cantt Area.

 

[Jango]

Bro I dont remember the name of the Generals. But I saw gigantic houses in very posh and expensive areas.

And trust me the cheapest houses there were atlest 2 or 3 crore.



Seeing their kids drive expensive cars means the generals have enough dough to buy these cars for the kids which means they always have a side income or are being given way more money than required.

It was Lahore, the Cantt Area.

Well aw gee, let me count how many important generals live in lahore, well never mind.

The IV corps commander might be a candidate, but nobody else comes to mind. At most only one guy could be having kickbacks.

And where did you see the opulent mansions??? lahore ?

 

[Mercenary]

Well aw gee, let me count how many important generals live in lahore, well never mind.

The IV corps commander might be a candidate, but nobody else comes to mind. At most only one guy could be having kickbacks.

And where did you see the opulent mansions??? lahore ?

Yeah, in Cantt and some place called Raiwind or something....its in outskirts of Lahore where Nawaz Sharif has a house there too....my cousin pointed out that some general lives there...i am like daaaaamn

 

[Edevelop]

Good decision to lower Defence spending.
Do we need anything more than this?

JF-17 Blk I, II, III (150-300)
F-16 Blk 40/52 (63)
J-10B (36)
Mirage V (100)
F-7PG (100)
IL-78 Air refuelling (4)
Erieye AWACS (4)
ZDK-03 AWACS (2)
? Drones


AH-1F/S Cobra Attack helicopter (40)
IAR 330 utility helicopter (4)
Harbin Y-12 Utility aircraft (2)
Cessna Citation Bravo Transport aircraft (2)
Aero Commander 840 Transport aircraft (2)
Mil Mi-17 Transport helicopter (85)
Bell 206 Jet Ranger Utility helicopter (9)
Bell 412 Utility helicopter (95)
Bell UH-1 Huey Utility helicopter (200)
Eurocopter AS350 Utility helicopter (10)
Eurocopter AS355 Utility helicopter
Aérospatiale SA 330 Puma Utility helicopter (60)
Aerospatiale SA.316 Alouette III Utility helicopter (10)

? SD-10
(500+) AIM 120
? AIM-9
? PL-5
? Ra'ad
? H2/H4
? Babur
? Nasr
? Abdali
? Ghauri I, II
? Shaheen I, II
? Tipu

Man-portable air defence systems
Anza Mk I, Anza Mk II, Anza Mk III (MANPAD)
SA-7 Grail
General Dynamics FIM-92 Stinger
General Dynamics FIM-43 Redeye
Bofors RBS-70 short-range SAM system
Mistral Man-portable air defence systems
Medium altitude air defence systems
Spada-2000, Advanced Air Defence System
Bofors RBS 23 medium range, all-weather capable air defence system
High altitude air defence systems
HQ-2B SAM
HQ-9
Anti-aircraft guns
Oerlikon(GDF-005) 35 mm twin cannon
Oerlikon AHEAD modified cannon
Bofors 40 mm cannon


M109 self-propelled howitzer (500)
M115 towed howitzer (356)
M110 203 mm (860)
M109 (A2/A3/A4/A5) howitzer 155 mm (500)
NORINCO SH1[citation needed] 155 mm (213)
A-100 300mm
KRL-21 155 mm
Towed artillery
M115 203 mm (356)
MKEK Panter 155 mm (30)
M198 155 mm (348)
M114 155 mm (244)
Type 59I 130 mm (410)
Type 54 122 mm (490)
M56 105 mm 113
M101 105 mm (216)

Al-Khalid (500)
T-80UD (320)
Type 85-IIAP (275)
Al-Zarrar (900)
Type 69-II (250)
Type 59 (1100)
T-54/55 (54)

110+ Nukes...

 

[Jango]

Yeah, in Cantt and some place called Raiwind or something....its in outskirts of Lahore where Nawaz Sharif has a house there too....my cousin pointed out that some general lives there...i am like daaaaamn

Some general, some place, you just keep detracting from your original statements, and then go around in circles.

Now, if you see your first post, you will see that you have come down a whole level on the allegations you made.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Well i didnt see them driving those imported cars but their kids.

I went to a party in defence, and my cousin introduced me that this is that general's son and that is that major's son and that is that colonel's son and all of them had bmw, mercs and audis

did you have proof of purchase? what was the tag number? Lets find out online to which name those cars are registered because i bet you they are just privately owned cars. If they were bought with public funds - well it would be a disgrace and it would be treason.

are you prepapred to share a bill of sale of these vehicles so we can know how they were paid for? And quite frankly, every MNA and member of parliament drives around in luxury cars some of which havent even had all taxes and duties paid off yet......even prime minister pulls into the driveway of the supreme court in a car with fake tags. Says a lot.

So how the hell can their kids affrod these expensive cars on a common soldier's salary unless they r scheming money on the side.

maybe they have something called a ''good paying job'' ?

if they are ill-gotten gains - well shame on them.....i dont think in this day and age a khakis son can engage in cronyism and corruption and get away with it....especially with the vicious media we have

MNAs get away with it every day because government hasnt the will to crack down on corruption within.....too scared to alienate their circles and their supporters

Well aw gee, let me count how many important generals live in lahore, well never mind.

The IV corps commander might be a candidate, but nobody else comes to mind. At most only one guy could be having kickbacks.

And where did you see the opulent mansions??? lahore ?

they have a military housing complex near the Lahore Airport....those were constructed in the past 2-3 years or so if i'm not mistaken. ''Generals'' laugh are not living in ''opulent mansions in Lahore''

this kid is talking through his arse....