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CM Yogi: India Is on Its Way to Becoming Another Country of Religious Conflict?

No, he will rather sell the cow to get some money or donate it do get blessings but will not kill it for food.

Read my question again ............ this time carefully and try to understand where I am going to go with this. It would have been better if you had left it for Adil to answer you won't like the comparison I would draw from your response.

Selling cow in drought? And even if he gets the money what would he do with the money? Money doesn't produce food it buys food .......... and my scenario is non availability of food other than his cow only.
 
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@adil_minhas A question

Will a staunch Hindu slaughter a cow say (God forbid) in conditions of drought? Suppose when he has no other option to feed his family and he has a cow only?

No he won't bro. No north Indian Hindu at least (Aryan stock). Dravida Hindus yes. Definitely.

@Tshering22 bro you do know that many Hindu sects sacrifice bulls right? Nepalis, gorkhas. It's part of their culture and religion. And they are staunch Hindus.

This whole fracas is a north Indian cow belt thing. Being taken up and fueled by Nagpur based RSS ideologues. For their own agenda to spite Muslims.

Hindus used to eat beef. Fact.

Beef is used in Ayurveda. And found in old Hindu texts. Fact.

Gau raksha and the milch animal argument pertains to the cow only. Fact.

Bulls and bullocks not used for farm labor or as studs have always been used for meat in India. Fact.
 
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No he won't bro. No north Indian Hindu at least (Aryan stock). Dravida Hindus yes. Definitely.

So how can a North Indian Hindu claim that his religion or way of life is flexible and changes with time? How can this act of not valuing his life not be called an act of extremism? You do know Islam permits consuming anything (including pig) in such conditions, enough to survive............ Islam values human life and is flexible. Why your society (non Muslims) when drawing comparisons and labeling Islam as an extremist religion fail to consider this?
 
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Read my question again ............ this time carefully and try to understand where I am going to go with this. It would have been better if you had left it for Adil to answer you won't like the comparison I would draw from your response.

Selling cow in drought? And even if he gets the money what would he do with the money? Money doesn't produce food it buys food .......... and my scenario is non availability of food other than his cow only.
I understand very well. Adil is not a hindu but I am so i can answer authentically.
In extreme scenario when nothing is available to drink... people drink their own urine or blood to survive. There are instances of cannibalism to survive the hunger... I think you don't want to discuss such extreme scenarios when the brain stops functioning. Its very difficult to predict human behavior in extreme circumstances so its immaterial what a human will do in such a situation.
Children of Sikh Gurus were burried alive in the wall but they refused to accept Islam while many converted at mere flash of the sword.
 
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Children of Sikh Gurus were burried alive in the wall but they refused to accept Islam while many converted at mere flash of the sword.

I don't know what this has got to do with the topic on hand .......... but now you have mentioned it and if it is true then me being Muslim condemn this heinous act (if it ever was committed).

Adil may not be a Hindu but he is an indian.
 
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No he won't bro. No north Indian Hindu at least (Aryan stock). Dravida Hindus yes. Definitely.

You do know that the Aryan invasion theory is bullcr@p and proven so, right?

Geneticists have themselves admitted to it being wrong.

@Tshering22 bro you do know that many Hindu sects sacrifice bulls right? Nepalis, gorkhas. It's part of their culture and religion. And they are staunch Hindus.

They sacrifice Gaurs FYI which is not a cow/bull.

Gaur is a different species altogether like Buffaloes.

I know what Nepalis do; we have Indian Nepalis here in Sikkim as well.

This whole fracas is a north Indian cow belt thing. Being taken up and fueled by Nagpur based RSS ideologues. For their own agenda to spite Muslims.

If they were so hateful against you, they would have toppled Muslims right after independence.

Did they do it? No.

You are here, as much as I am or anyone else is and we are talking about it.

Hindus used to eat beef. Fact.

Non-cow meat.

Beef for Hindus is other bovines other than cows/bulls.

Beef is used in Ayurveda. And found in old Hindu texts. Fact.

Ayurveda doesn't use non-vegetarian materials except in very exceptional circumstances which includes pigeons and mutton.

Never heard of cow/bull meat being used.

Gau raksha and the milch animal argument pertains to the cow only. Fact.

You do know that cow is female and bull is male of the same species right...?

Bulls and bullocks not used for farm labor or as studs have always been used for meat in India. Fact.

Please show me records of these instances.

I would like to know this.

Because the regulations I mentioned to you have been there since Congress era and if this has been happening then it has been happening illegally.
 
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The source is the ministry itself.

Like it or not, it is the rule.

There are things which even we don't like but we learn to live with it. Similarly, Hindus have to live with many rules that are not exactly letting them spread up but they don't create hue and cry about it.

Like I said, harmonious existence through adjusting and respecting each other.

I am not denying the source.

I am mentioning the chronology. And commenting on the prime motive.

Adil may not be a Hindu but he is an indian.

Indian :-)
 
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Not gonna happen unless they prove themselves. You would never see me writing Hindu, Christian, Muslim with initial small letters, but indian would remain indian unless .................... the big change happens
 
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No he won't bro. No north Indian Hindu at least (Aryan stock). Dravida Hindus yes. Definitely.

@Tshering22 bro you do know that many Hindu sects sacrifice bulls right? Nepalis, gorkhas. It's part of their culture and religion. And they are staunch Hindus.

This whole fracas is a north Indian cow belt thing. Being taken up and fueled by Nagpur based RSS ideologues. For their own agenda to spite Muslims.

Hindus used to eat beef. Fact.

Beef is used in Ayurveda. And found in old Hindu texts. Fact.

Gau raksha and the milch animal argument pertains to the cow only. Fact.

Bulls and bullocks not used for farm labor or as studs have always been used for meat in India. Fact.

Total rubbish.

Do you even know how the Gorkha's got their name ? From their god and guru, GorakNath.

The same Goraknath who's chief Mahant is Yogi Adityanath. Goraknath itself mean Go-rak nath, the Protector of Cows :lol:

Gorkha's also worship Kali and the bull sacrifice and blood offering to kali has been outlawed in Hinduism ever since the time of the Shankaracharya. More than 2000 years ago.

Their current blood lust of the gorkhas are a more recent phenomena and has more to do with their long association with the british.

Hindu's never used to eat beef. At best they made a bull offering during a yagna and at part of that offering and gave it to the guests. But it is and was forbidden to eat it outside the yagna and those who ate meat regularly was called Rakshasha.

Finally its clear you do not know anything about Hinduism or about south Indians, so its better you stick to stuff you know about, which is islam.
 
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They sacrifice Gaurs FYI which is not a cow/bull.

Gaur is a different species altogether like Buffaloes.

I know what Nepalis do; we have Indian Nepalis here in Sikkim as well.

There are tons of links to the Gadhimai Festival of Nepal which is supposed to be the largest mass animal slaughter in the world. Cows, bulls, buffalos, gaurs, goats, and and even pigeons.

If they were so hateful against you, they would have toppled Muslims right after independence.

Did they do it? No.

You are here, as much as I am or anyone else is and we are talking about it.

Which is because the large mass of Hindus are (were?) not rabid Hindutvawadis.

Plus it is not easy to "topple" 200 million people. Has not been done anywhere in the world. But way stronger and militaristic populaces and races than generally docile Hindus.

Non-cow meat.

Beef for Hindus is other bovines other than cows/bulls.

Not true. That is the saffron twist to explain away an inconvenient fact.

Ayurveda doesn't use non-vegetarian materials except in very exceptional circumstances which includes pigeons and mutton.

Never heard of cow/bull meat being used.

It is there. Largely debated. Again the saffrons have not been able to escape this uncomfortable fact.

You do know that cow is female and bull is male of the same species right...?

Ya I do. And unless biology has changed since I studied it, the bull produces only semen, not milk. And the bull is not the gau mata. He is the one who inseminates her. And the bullock does neither of the above. Hope that explains my point.

Please show me records of these instances.

I would like to know this.

Because the regulations I mentioned to you have been there since Congress era and if this has been happening then it has been happening illegally.

Records? You want slaughter records with photos maybe? I am a Muslim. You are telling me we do not know what we have been cutting and eating for centuries??

Please .....

Not gonna happen unless they prove themselves. You would never see me writing Hindu, Christian, Muslim with initial small letters, but indian would remain indian unless .................... the big change happens

Must be a pain overriding the auto-correct every time. Just to show us the cyber ungli.
 
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There are tons of links to the Gadhimai Festival of Nepal which is supposed to be the largest mass animal slaughter in the world. Cows, bulls, buffalos, gaurs, goats, and and even pigeons.

Not cows dude. Trust me; what you read about is what is seen in my part of the region.

It is there. Largely debated. Again the saffrons have not been able to escape this uncomfortable fact.

No sir. Except for a few shady figures quoting their own interpretations, it is not at all contested.

Ya I do. And unless biology has changed since I studied it, the bull produces only semen, not milk. And the bull is not the gau mata. He is the one who inseminates her. And the bullock does neither of the above. Hope that explains my point.


Records? You want slaughter records with photos maybe? I am a Muslim. You are telling me we do not know what we have been cutting and eating for centuries??

Please .....

Must be a pain overriding the auto-correct every time. Just to show us the cyber ungli.

Cyber ungli or hand or whatever you choose to say, your ancestors chose to stay back rather than go to Pakistan and eat bovines peacefully.

Blame your great grand dad buddy.

Not others.

When other minorities have no problems, I don't see why only Muslims should have any issues at all pertaining to this one matter.
 
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Dravida Hindus yes. Definitely.

I am a Dravida Hindu...99.99% of us don't eat beaf, including the buffalow.
So, please stop spreading lies.

Will a staunch Hindu slaughter a cow say (God forbid) in conditions of drought? Suppose when he has no other option to feed his family and he has a cow only?

Would a muslim ever desecrate their holy book? Never..
That should answer u'r question.
 
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I am a Dravida Hindu...99.99% of us don't eat beaf, including the buffalow.
So, please stop spreading lies.



Would a muslim ever desecrate their holy book? Never..
That should answer u'r question.

Should have guessed. In my experience the prickly and painful kind. As big studs on the net as pussies off it.
 
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