Civil War in Yemen (Army-Al-Qaeda-Houthis)

[Steve781]

There's an article on Eurasia Review (I can't post the link) which suggests that the Saudis actually want a temporary Houthi victory to undermine the Muslim Brotherhood and bring their preferred clients back to power.

 

[Ceylal]

There's an article on Eurasia Review (I can't post the link) which suggests that the Saudis actually want a temporary Houthi victory to undermine the Muslim Brotherhood and bring their preferred clients back to power.

The Sauds are always ambivalent and hard to grasp their foreign policy, but this case, I am more leaning to an Iranian push to block Saudi Arabia. Houthis have a tooth to grind with the Sauds..

 

[al-Hasani]

The Sauds are always ambivalent and hard to grasp their foreign policy, but this case, I am more leaning to an Iranian push to block Saudi Arabia. Houthis have a tooth to grind with the Sauds..

"Block" KSA. That's only something USA/RUSSIA/CHINA can do. Dream on. Block what? Kuwait is fully safe, UAE is fully safe, Qatar is fully safe, Oman is fully safe, Bahrain is safe but even if it was not then it is an island, Jordan is safe. Only porous borders are those of Iraq and Yemen. Both of them have fences and are heavily protected. This is why the KSA-Iraq border have given no problems for almost 8 years now. When I say problem then it is smugglers and unwanted elements crossing into or from Iraq.

You should rather deal with the fact of you Berbers still not having 1 single Berber state. You can try in your tiny Kabylie.

You have too high hopes for a failed, cornered, sanctioned and desperate state like Iran. They can't control their own borders and here you are jumping around hoping for the Mullah's "cornering" KSA. They need 10.000 km of conferring by land and sea, LOL.

 

[Ceylal]

"Block" KSA. That's only something USA/RUSSIA/CHINA can do. Dream on. Block what? Kuwait is fully safe, UAE is fully safe, Qatar is fully safe, Oman is fully safe, Bahrain is safe but even if it was not then it is an island, Jordan is safe. Only porous borders are those of Iraq and Yemen. Both of them have fences and are heavily protected. This is why the KSA-Iraq border have given no problems for almost 8 years now. When I say problem then it is smugglers and unwanted elements crossing into or from Iraq.

You are safe, are you really? Make sure to plan for a long stay where you are, if your are where you say you are a get additional room for your family. In three week ISIS, your lab progeniture, will own your asses. The houthis would be a bad dream , comparing to ISIS.

You should rather deal with the fact of you Berbers still not having 1 single Berber state. You can try in your tiny Kabylie.

You are an idiot, and the sad thing you keep believing it...too much Saudi moonshine, I guess.

You have too high hopes for a failed, cornered, sanctioned and desperate state like Iran. They can't control their own borders and here you are jumping around hoping for the Mullah's "cornering" KSA. They need 10.000 km of conferring by land and sea, LOL.

And you can...The belt of American bases around the Sauds are just for decoration, I assume...The Mullah land , as you call it , is giving sleepless nights...You can colour it anyway you want, Iran is turning the game on you, with finesse and bravado.
you lost influence in Iraq, you lost influence in Syria, you lost it in Lebanon and now you lost it in Yemen...It does look that you have been surround by those smart Mullahs...Despite your money, your greatness as described by echeikh Elhassani, you have fallen face first on camel manure.
And next time wash that face of yours with water and soap, it does look like you used camel urine for continuing to show your face. You are a shameless bourrique!

 

[al-Hasani]

@Ceylal

Yes, cold hard facts hurt a deluded clown like you.

I suggest that you limit your hashish intake or whatever you take. It seems that you took a too strong dose today!

Most of KSA has never been conquered by outsiders other than fellow Arabs or Semites already originating from the Arabian Peninsula despite several attempts.

The borders of KSA and Iraq are one of the most well-protected borders not only in the region but the world nowadays. Hence why there not being any problems for years.

I suggest that you watch this and take a look at this thread instead of barking like a wild donkey as usual whenever you overdue your hashish intake; Our Moroccan friends must have given you the wrong stuff today!

Integrated system to secure borders of KSA

Secondly the mountainous, long and difficult border with Yemen is also mostly fully secure outside of sporadic smugglers and occasional 1-3 failed terrorist attacks causing trouble for the border guards.

Sleepless nights? Iran is in misery and has been so for 35 years while KSA has moved forward in this time period ON ALL IMAGINABLE fronts. For instance your country is behind KSA on all fronts.

KSA is not Algeria were barefooted terrorists from another country on pickups can hijack a whole oil refinery deep inside Algerian territory! Led by your distant Berberian cousin Mr. Marlboro if you have heard about him!

In Amenas hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suggest that you stick to your native Mali, Berbarian and stop deluding yourself. Get your own country first. Go fight in Kabylie. I hear that your government is already dealing with your likes harshly as history has always shown that invaders and conquerors have done with you stateless people. Very good. Long may it continue. Chase the Berbarians back to the depths of the Sahara and Mali!

 

[ResurgentIran]

Yemen rebels seize Red Sea city of Hudeida
SANAA: Yemeni rebels captured the strategic Red Seacity of Hudeida in a lightning offensive, less than a month after they seized the capital, a security official said Tuesday

Yemen rebels seize Red Sea city of Hudeida: security source | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR

 

[IR1907]

You have too high hopes for a failed, cornered, sanctioned and desperate state like Iran. They can't control their own borders and here you are jumping around hoping for the Mullah's "cornering" KSA. They need 10.000 km of conferring by land and sea, LOL.

Irans borders are very calm except few incidents that originate from known terrorist land called Pakistan, other then that we are one of the safest country in the volatile ME.

Worry about your own country, with the many terrorists you have exported around the region, it might come bite back in your ***.
Yemen is a example.

 

[al-Hasani]

You are again itching for a fight ehh Al Pissani ? Irans borders are very calm except few incidents that originate from known terrorist land called Pakistan, other then that we are one of the safest country in the volatile me.

Worry about your own country, with the many terrorists you have exported around the region, it might come bite back in your ***.
Yemen is a example.

@WebMaster the @IR1907 troll is the permanently banned troll @Fotol .

Yes, your Iran is paradise on earth. You mean North Korea II. Last time I checked your Baluch cousins have killed 3000 of your soldiers along the Pakistani border. Most secure country in the ME, my ***. Ever heard about GCC countries? There is virtually never any unrest of any sorts. Ever heard about unrest in Oman for instance? UAE? When was the last unrest in KSA outside of a few terrorist attacks in the 2000's? It's a unfounded joke claim. That's what it is.

Nobody in Yemen is a threat to KSA. Whatever happens there rarely influences anything in KSA. Last time the Houthis were a bit too ambitious they were bombed back to the stone age and have never dared to cause any trouble since. Besides the Houthis have nothing to do with your failed Mullahistan or the fake wannabe Arab's that rule your ***.

The Houthis are Zaydi Muslims. They have more in common with us Sunni Muslims especially of the Shafi'i fiqh. Houthis are supported by many ordinary Yemenis regardless of sect because they want the corrupt government gone.

 

[ResurgentIran]

You cant really use border conflicts as an argument to measure a country's stability. Certainly not exclusively, unless you look at things in a narrow and selective way in order to lean the argument your way and see things how you want to imagine them. But thats not viable in an argument.

I think some people misunderstand what we mean when a country is stable.
Borders are certainly a factor and not to be excluded, but when we talk about stability, we mean the stability of the nation state and its institutions. No ethnic or sectarian conflict in Iran in any meaningful way what so ever, and in this regard Iran is indeed one of the most coherent and stable countries in the region, if not the most stable.
Iran does not suffer the systemic problems that some of the other countries do like extensive terrorism (like in Pakistan, Iraq etc), ethnic or sectarian tension.
If anything a country like KSA is more prone to instability due to tribal and sectarian predisposition, but as of now those things are in check because of a good economy.

Even sanctioned Iran is very stable, which is saying a lot.
As for borders, well instability there will almost always be a problem to various degrees, due to things like border disputes, and it being impossible to control entire border.
Then border stability will become dependent on relations with the neighboring country, and the effectiveness of the others countys's intelligence and security apparatus to tackle things like terrorism, drug smuggling or what have you.

But as a country, Iran is very stable.
Next.

And al-Hasani, some months ago you and your compatriots were bragging how Houthis were defeated by mighty Saudi army and ya'll were expressing clear feelings of hatred towards them.
But thats because you mistakenly thought they were defeated as a political and military force in Yemen. Now that it has proven not to be the case, all of a sudden you pretend to love them just to rationlize it and minimize what feelings you may have had as a result of the Houthis victories. Its a poor attempt to hide deeper feelings.

Talk about "trimming one's sails after the wind".

 

[EagleEyes]

@al-Hasani stop calling Iran a failed state and control your trolling.

 

[Arabian Legend]

@al-Hasani stop calling Iran a failed state and control your trolling.

He sets the place on fire wherever he goes. No one dares to confront him especially the MullahStanis, he puts them in their right place. They see him they run.

He is such interesting character, well educated and eloquent. He doesn't troll rather counters trolling.

@al-Hasani

 

[al-Hasani]

@al-Hasani stop calling Iran a failed state and control your trolling.

Well, I am not "trolling" Iran. I am just saying the truth. Actually it was our Algerian Berber friend, Ceylal, that started talking about Iran in the context of KSA and Iran "pushing to block KSA". You might have noticed that he has a bad habit of trolling when it comes to KSA, Iraq, Egypt and dozens of other Arab countries. I just countered that. Then a well-known troll and doubler user started insulting me. Nobody had mentioned that country before that in this thread. As you see 99,9% of all Farsi users are obsessed about the Arab world, it's 22 countries and the 450-500 million Arabs. It's just like their rulers. They are a reflection of them. I never write on the Iranian section or in threads about Iran and neither do 99,9% of all other Arab users here. The only exception is @Full Moon and he is only doing that when they troll or write nonsense. I don't bother with their historical lies, low iq trolling, all the suicide double users etc. With the exception of them doing it in threads that deal with KSA, the Arab world or Arabs.

He sets the place on fire wherever he goes. No one dares to confront him especially the MullahStanis, he puts them in their right place. They see him they run.

He is such interesting character, well educated and eloquent. He doesn't troll rather counters trolling.

@al-Hasani

Well, I don't bother anyone or any country as long as they are not trolling KSA, Arabs or Muslims. But yes, I already know that. They saw that the second I joined PDF. As long as I am here they cannot start trolling without being countered. At most they can provoke with their suicide double users. Anyway there are few Arab users on PDF that are active. If there were more we would have more of my likes to deal with them. For now I think that I am doing a good job single-handedly though.

Those clowns think that the Houthis have anything to do with them but that is understandable as they do not understand the dynamics of Yemen as I already explained in this thread. Anyway it does not matter who is going to have influence in Yemen, which groups, political parties, movements etc. The same problems will remain until they deal with the fundamentals.

KSA will remain save as usual in this context as well. They are welcome to try and cross the line again and get bombed back to the stone age. But they won't. Now Houthis have ties with KSA. We control all players in Yemen some way or another and will always influence the country the most of all countries out there for obvious reasons.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Houthi rebels seize parts of Yemeni port city
Houthi fighters have seized parts of Yemen's southern city of al-Hudaydah, the second most important port after Aden, while southern secessionists have garnered more support, pushing the country towards the verge of disintegration.

The rebels captured the city's airport and military base, including stockpiles of weapons and ammunition on Tuesday.

The city of al-Hudaydah is vital to Yemen's economy with its strategic location on the Red Sea, where most of Yemen's oil is shipped to international markets. The city is also home to the country's largest oil refinery.

KEY PLAYERS
Houthis - Rebel group at war with the government since 2004. Signed a deal with the government last month for more political inclusion after mass protests and bloody clashes.
Al-Islah - Islamist party that draws support and membership from heavily armed Sunni tribesmen, and is instrumental in rallying support behind the army and the government. The Houthis have identified the party as its arch-enemy.
The Southern Separatist Movement - Umbrella group that wants the south to break away from the north and reinstate the former Socialist state that existed until 1990.
Al Jazeera's Hashem Ahelbarra said that if the Houthis controlled the city totally "it would give them more leverage to negotiate any deal in the future".

The Houthis seek to consolidate their grip over the northern part of the country, favouring it to be one region instead of three, while also seeking a bigger say in drafting the constitution.

"Basically, this is a group that is positioning itself as a parallel government to the government - they are everywhere," said Ahelbarra.

But Mohamed Qubaty, the former adviser to the last three Yemeni prime ministers, said that since 95 percent of the city of al-Hudaydah comprises of Sunnis, the Zaidi Houthis may not be able to claim full control over city.

Qubaty said that the Houthis’ strategy "is to precipitate confrontation or crisis and negotiate over it … as it appears, they’re aiming for further concessions".

The Houthis already control the provinces of Saada and Amran north of the capital. Our correspondent said that if they move to Dhamar, they would effectively control a large area of the northwestern part of the country.

The rebels reportedly set up checkpoints in Dhamar city, similar to the checkpoints they set up in the capital city of Sanaa.

Secession rallies

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of secessionists rallied in Aden, in the south. Our correspondent said that if they called for secession, it would be backed by all political factions.

"For the first time in the country's modern history the Sunni Islah party - which has consistently been pro-union - is saying that they support the right of the south for self-determination," said Ahelbarra.

"The rally raises fears of disintegration if the south decides or chooses to break away in the coming hours," he added.

Houthi rebels seize parts of Yemeni port city - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

 

[Arabian Legend]

Houthi rebels seize parts of Yemeni port city
Houthi fighters have seized parts of Yemen's southern city of al-Hudaydah, the second most important port after Aden, while southern secessionists have garnered more support, pushing the country towards the verge of disintegration.

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The rebels captured the city's airport and military base, including stockpiles of weapons and ammunition on Tuesday.

The city of al-Hudaydah is vital to Yemen's economy with its strategic location on the Red Sea, where most of Yemen's oil is shipped to international markets. The city is also home to the country's largest oil refinery.

KEY PLAYERS
Houthis - Rebel group at war with the government since 2004. Signed a deal with the government last month for more political inclusion after mass protests and bloody clashes.
Al-Islah - Islamist party that draws support and membership from heavily armed Sunni tribesmen, and is instrumental in rallying support behind the army and the government. The Houthis have identified the party as its arch-enemy.
The Southern Separatist Movement - Umbrella group that wants the south to break away from the north and reinstate the former Socialist state that existed until 1990.
Al Jazeera's Hashem Ahelbarra said that if the Houthis controlled the city totally "it would give them more leverage to negotiate any deal in the future".

The Houthis seek to consolidate their grip over the northern part of the country, favouring it to be one region instead of three, while also seeking a bigger say in drafting the constitution.

"Basically, this is a group that is positioning itself as a parallel government to the government - they are everywhere," said Ahelbarra.

But Mohamed Qubaty, the former adviser to the last three Yemeni prime ministers, said that since 95 percent of the city of al-Hudaydah comprises of Sunnis, the Zaidi Houthis may not be able to claim full control over city.

Qubaty said that the Houthis’ strategy "is to precipitate confrontation or crisis and negotiate over it … as it appears, they’re aiming for further concessions".

The Houthis already control the provinces of Saada and Amran north of the capital. Our correspondent said that if they move to Dhamar, they would effectively control a large area of the northwestern part of the country.

The rebels reportedly set up checkpoints in Dhamar city, similar to the checkpoints they set up in the capital city of Sanaa.

Secession rallies

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of secessionists rallied in Aden, in the south. Our correspondent said that if they called for secession, it would be backed by all political factions.

"For the first time in the country's modern history the Sunni Islah party - which has consistently been pro-union - is saying that they support the right of the south for self-determination," said Ahelbarra.

"The rally raises fears of disintegration if the south decides or chooses to break away in the coming hours," he added.

Houthi rebels seize parts of Yemeni port city - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Yemen is surrounded by the Saudi Navy should MullahStan attempt to provide weaponry to Houthis so that the fight the great Satan. It has been under the Saudi Navy control since 2009.

 

[al-Hasani]

@al-Hasani
If these Houthis get cozy with Iran what are you going to do ?

Maybe they will distract your air force and give the soldiers of my caliphate some time to rebuild and then take Jordan ?

We all know who is next.

Bro, Houthis have barely any ties to Iran. Their struggle has nothing to do with Iran either. They are Zaydi Shias. They are very close to Sunnis in general. Just read about them. Please also read my posts regarding Yemen in this very thread. Yemen is quite complex and it's easy for outsiders to think that it's similar to Iraq and Syria while it is not. Houthi's are not my favorites but they have support from the Sunni Muslims too. The only reason for that is that they are united in wanting the government gone or changed. Of course we would prefer Yemen to have strong state institutions and inclusive politics so stability would prevail. But that' won't happen until the Yemenis themselves deal with the key problems. KSA is safe no matter what happens in Yemen. It's an internal struggle and nothing really changes regardless of who will rule Yemen. Lastly KSA has ties with all fractions in Yemen and we have the biggest influence in Yemen of all countries.

I hope that Yemen will bounce back once again and return to their place in history. They deserve that as a country being home to some of the oldest civilizations out there, playing a very important role in Islamic history and in general being one of the most beautiful countries out there and a very friendly people overall. They have been through a lot.

Bro, don't support those ISIS lunatics. You know better.

Listen to this;

What ISIS does is not Islam. After listening you will not support ISIS anymore. I will get disappointed if you do.