China's water transfer project begins

[Selous]

Good stuff!

 

[Keel]

 

[bolo]

why is there smoke in one of the tower?

 

[Keel]

why is there smoke in one of the tower?

Hi altitude BBQ!

Do you want some?

Read post # 30 please after your flame broiled steak.

 

[terranMarine]

here here

 

[bolo]

Hi altitude BBQ!

Do you want some?

Read post # 30 please after your flame broiled steak.

cool

 

[Nan Yang]

One mistake about Great Wall: It's not useless.
1 It's a fast alarming system. With numerous of Towers we can send messages by making fire and heavy fog on the top of them. By recording the order of the fire, for example we have five towers and two fired as 10010, both approximate number (we use binary file to code so here 10010 means 18 thousand let's say) and location (First tower fired at Beijing) of the enemy can be sent to the border guards in minutes.
2 It cannot stop the invaders but it can effectively prevent them from bringing the goods they plundered from us back to their lair.
We Chinese, not French.

Not only that. The wall is the only way to fight nomadic tribes. Nomadic tribes do not have cities. They move around in the vast grassland. You have no idea where they are ... until they show up at your door step and attack you. They do not hold the land they capture but slaughter and loot all you belonging and animals. Then they disappears into the vast steppe before the imperial cavalry arrives.

To fight them you have to chase them until you run out of supplies. Then when you turn back, they will also turn back. China has been fighting nomadic tribes for over a thousand years. More barbarians then the world combined. That is why a continuous wall is the only way to stop them. And that is also why the Huns (Xiong Nu) also ended up in Europe.

If the Long Wall (As it is called in Pu tong Hua) is useless, then it should lies outside China. But the Long Wall is hundreds of miles INSIDE China.

 

[Ruisheng]

Not only that. The wall is the only way to fight nomadic tribes. Nomadic tribes do not have cities. They move around in the vast grassland. You have no idea where they are ... until they show up at your door step and attack you. They do not hold the land they capture but slaughter and loot all you belonging and animals. Then they disappears into the vast steppe before the imperial cavalry arrives.

To fight them you have to chase them until you run out of supplies. Then when you turn back, they will also turn back. China has been fighting nomadic tribes for over a thousand years. More barbarians then the world combined. That is why a continuous wall is the only way to stop them. And that is also why the Huns (Xiong Nu) also ended up in Europe.

If the Long Wall (As it is called in Pu tong Hua) is useless, then it should lies outside China. But the Long Wall is hundreds of miles INSIDE China.

Great understanding of the nomads, but again a tiny mistake: the Huns in Europe is not Xiong Nu. Although they sounds the same in Chinese, many people had proved this via time, language, Connection with other races, and culture.

Hi altitude BBQ!

Do you want some?

Read post # 30 please after your flame broiled steak.

 

[Keel]

Great understanding of the nomads, but again a tiny mistake: the Huns in Europe is not Xiong Nu. Although they sounds the same in Chinese, many people had proved this via time, language, Connection with other races, and culture.

the Russians belong to xiongnu

 

[Ruisheng]

the Russians belong to xiongnu

Haha Xiong Nu + Xian Bei + Tu Jue + Rou Ran + Hui Hu

 

[Keel]

Haha Xiong Nu + Xian Bei + Tu Jue + Rou Ran + Hui Hu

前苏联和俄国的语言学者近年来作了不少比较研究，初步表明叶尼塞区域和高加索区域的语言和汉藏语系有某种亲属关系。所以到头来匈奴语和汉藏语可能还会变成“亲戚”。其他不说，最近便有人提出匈奴—鲜卑语的“祁连”（义为“天”——祁连山和天山均由此得名）和汉语的“天”或“昊天”同源。

匈奴人 _百度百科

Both your and my statements are correct

 

[Ruisheng]

前苏联和俄国的语言学者近年来作了不少比较研究，初步表明叶尼塞区域和高加索区域的语言和汉藏语系有某种亲属关系。所以到头来匈奴语和汉藏语可能还会变成“亲戚”。其他不说，最近便有人提出匈奴—鲜卑语的“祁连”（义为“天”——祁连山和天山均由此得名）和汉语的“天”或“昊天”同源。

匈奴人 _百度百科

Both your and my statements are correct

我记得看到的那是篇文献，说不是匈人，当时世界观就崩塌了。

 

[Keel]

我记得看到的那是篇文献，说不是匈人，当时世界观就崩塌了。

Well we are going too far off topic
Please dont mind if I should stop here

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Not only that. The wall is the only way to fight nomadic tribes. Nomadic tribes do not have cities. They move around in the vast grassland. You have no idea where they are ... until they show up at your door step and attack you. They do not hold the land they capture but slaughter and loot all you belonging and animals. Then they disappears into the vast steppe before the imperial cavalry arrives.

To fight them you have to chase them until you run out of supplies. Then when you turn back, they will also turn back. China has been fighting nomadic tribes for over a thousand years. More barbarians then the world combined. That is why a continuous wall is the only way to stop them. And that is also why the Huns (Xiong Nu) also ended up in Europe.

If the Long Wall (As it is called in Pu tong Hua) is useless, then it should lies outside China. But the Long Wall is hundreds of miles INSIDE China.

Great Wall is a shame and symbol of cowardice. It has not stop nomads.

It is a symbol of rotten culture who cannot stop giving excuses that "enemy are too strong and geographical circumstances too impossible for manoeuvre ". Nothing is further from truth, the nomads are never too strong and terrain never too difficult. The reason is Han Chinese empire are too rotten.

The Qing Dynasty not only extend China out of Great Wall, it conquer the entire outer Mongolia, outer Manchuria, Xinjiang, Tibet... every single one having more hostile terrain for military movement compared to the steppe.

Emperor Kangxi said it is useless to build Great Wall.修筑长城 实属无益。 Qing Dynasty is the only dynasty who did not build Great Wall.

朱元璋与康熙不同的长城情怀_随笔砸谈_财经纵横_新浪网

Emperor Kangxi is a hero. Unfortunately many Chinese today has less scope and breadth than the few hundred years ago Qing leaders.

胸怀 气派 见识 差得远唉。

 

[Edison Chen]

Great Wall is a shame and symbol of cowardice. It has not stop nomads.

It is a symbol of rotten culture who cannot stop giving excuses that "enemy are too strong and geographical circumstances too impossible for manoeuvre ". Nothing is further from truth, the nomads are never too strong and terrain never too difficult. The reason is Han Chinese empire are too rotten.

The Qing Dynasty not only extend China out of Great Wall, it conquer the entire outer Mongolia, outer Manchuria, Xinjiang, Tibet... every single one having more hostile terrain for military movement compared to the steppe.

Emperor Kangxi said it is useless to build Great Wall.修筑长城 实属无益。 Qing Dynasty is the only dynasty who did not build Great Wall.

朱元璋与康熙不同的长城情怀_随笔砸谈_财经纵横_新浪网

Emperor Kangxi is a hero. Unfortunately many Chinese today has less scope and breadth than the few hundred years ago Qing leaders.

胸怀 气派 见识 差得远唉。

别的不好说，我觉得满清的贡献就是中国现在的领土面积，新疆，西藏，东北

why is there smoke in one of the tower?

To warn or transmit information to own people that enemies detected, one tower set the smoke then another too, soon places hundreds miles away will soon know enemy is coming.