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China's Stealthy J-20 with the new WS-15 power plants is expected in 2024, will give the J-20 more thrust than any other fighter class in the world

Just a couple of years ago many haters here claimed that it would take China multiply decades to produce a decent jet engine, they regularly trolled China about its engines.
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MURICAN AND THEIR BROWN NOSERS DARE NOT TROLL NO MORE ON BELOW :rofl:


Tube artillery?

Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen​

PLZ-45 Howitzers pound Houthis
BY JEFFREY LIN AND P.W. SINGER | PUBLISHED APR 21, 2015 4:00 PM EDT
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The Saudi Army is deploying its best cannons, the NORINCO PLZ-45 self propelled howitzer (SPH) to bombard Houthi rebels in western Yemen. This is the first time that a modern Chinese SPH has seen combat. While Saudi Arabia has bought primarily American weapons, recent advances in Chinese artillery technology has actually made Chinese artillery more capable in many respects over its American counterparts.

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The PLZ-45 is the artillery workhorse of the Saudi Army, it can a range of nearly 40km and can fire American and Chinese made smart munitions guided by lasers and satellite navigation, as well as cluster munitions.
The PLZ-45 is a 33 ton artillery vehicle, with a 6.97 meter long cannon that fires guided and unguided 50kg 155mm shells up to 39 kilometers away (in contrast, the America M109A7 Paladin’s shorter cannon has a 30km maximum range). First developed in the 1980s, the PLZ-45 did not see widespread Chinese service, though its bigger descendant, the 50km ranged PLZ-04, is in widespread PLA service. The PLZ-45 comes with an ammunition supply vehicle that carries 90 shells, as well as sophisticated counterbattery and fire control radars, in addition to forward observation scouts.


MISSILES ARTILLERY?


you not seriously thinking murica crappy HIMARs with reach of 70 km CEP 10 meters is of the same class as Chinese Firedragons reach 300++km and CEP 1 M

Murica Space technology that Murica tried to shut China out of?

Murica space tech is a joke compared to China

Supercomputers?

China stopped entering China supercomputers as that embarrased Murica so much that using sanctions after sanctions in futile efforts to stop China. Like Murica taking part in track and field events after doping themselves silly AND USING GATLING GUNS TO BLOW OUT THE KNEES OF OTHERS THINKING OF RACING IN TRACK AND FIELD.

THE WORLD WILL GET TO SEE CHINA IN QUANTUM COMPUTING AS WELL


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China will keep growing stronger and wealthier and that will be enough for China and that is what China will want and China will get.

China has the wisdom, intelligience and inner strength and courage of conviction to go her way and for the betterment of all Mankind.

Attributes that those who claimed to lead USA never possess.

China has not desire to start war with USA or any other countries even if China is very ready and capable to defend herself.

China will never start a shooting war with USA as China is just not that kind of country and civilisation.
 
China never mass produces immature engines, this engine has been tested for decade. China sent sections of space station up to space and operated dockings and undlockings, returnings to earth with perfect accuracy and success with many launches, the same way China works on its aircrafts and engines.

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The ISS is extremely old, so of course it looks rough. Kind of a dishonest comparison.

FYI, the ISS is set to be replaced in a few years time.
 
What an incredible beast. The J-20 is a monster.

No wonder the Americans are obsessed with China. 24/7 it is China mania.
And also they have brainwashed their public that everything China produces is a cheap copy and nothing . While they keep trolling, China is quietly and steadily making huge progress.
 
Of course it will be, but the replacement will be ready by 2028. It's not like buying a new car, it'll take a few extra years to decommision the ISS after the replacement is built and launched.
2028? I doubt it, after all, in 2018, nasa said it would replace it in 2024
 
2028? I doubt it, after all, in 2018, nasa said it would replace it in 2024
What is this weird competitive aggression coming from you? If anything the space race is good for humanity. You should be cheering on both NASA and China's space agency like the rest of us.

Stop being a goofy weirdo.
 
What is this weird competitive aggression coming from you? If anything the space race is good for humanity. You should be cheering on both NASA and China's space agency like the rest of us.

Stop being a goofy weirdo.
Is it permissible to cast doubt on the latest proposed timeline for a project that has been delayed many times? Your ideas are too authoritarian.。
 
Is it permissible to cast doubt on the latest proposed timeline for a project that has been delayed many times? Your ideas are too authoritarian.。
I'm just saying that you're being to competitive for no reason.

Their time-line doesn't matter much when it's going to happen anyway. Whether it's 1 year late, or 50 years late.

Just be happy it's getting done.

By the way I'm not stopping you, I just think it's goofy to be so competitive over such nonsense.
 
I'm just saying that you're being to competitive for no reason.

Their time-line doesn't matter much when it's going to happen anyway. Whether it's 1 year late, or 50 years late.

Just be happy it's getting done.

By the way I'm not stopping you, I just think it's goofy to be so competitive over such nonsense.
OK, I'm skeptical that the 2028 timeline will actually be met after multiple delays, since you say so, then we're not arguing
 
When you question China's military equipment, it's already absurd and illogical.

I question all military equipment... even Turkish - when i think they are duff. I am not fully convinced on "all" of the proposed use cases for the Akinci drone - and i have called it out on that - go - check...

Then you raise some questions. Ask Chinese to answer. But why do Chinese tell you?

There is no need. But you are on a "discussion forum" where we want to discuss. This site is not for advertising of products but for discussion. It is to "discuss" based on publically provided facts. One way unsubstantiated claims will get challenged as they are..

China has no obligation to satisfy your curiosity. China doesn't want to tell you these major equipment data. So I suggest you buy a Turkey engine.

See answer above - re:"Discussion forum".

Don't waste each other's time. If you learn to reflect on yourself. I believe your country will be better.

I am on this site to discuss using public facts. This stuff interests me. If someone comes along saying we have Product "X" - it is the best in the world - the best the best - but then provides nothing to back that open, other than "how dare you challenge our ascertion it is the best in the world, it has to be the best because it is Chinese... " - then yeah - you will get called out on it.
 
This is a HUGE development. It means China's indigenous technological and scientific capabilities are now at the same level of western Europe and america, exceeding that of the russians. It also means that Pakistan potentially no longer needs russian engines for the JF-17.
Hi,

The life of a modern american engine is around 6000 hrs +++.

That of this chinese engine would be around 1000-2000 hours---.

China is looking for a performance boost for this aircraft and this engine will provide that---.

But more important thing would be the ability to detect the F-35 and shoot it down---.

Pak air force stays with the times tested----proven & reliable equipment---.
 
Hi,

The life of a modern american engine is around 6000 hrs +++.

That of this chinese engine would be around 1000-2000 hours---.

China is looking for a performance boost for this aircraft and this engine will provide that---.

But more important thing would be the ability to detect the F-35 and shoot it down---.

Pak air force stays with the times tested----proven & reliable equipment---.


With time, the Chinese engines will mature to reach the same level of capability as that of the ameican engines.
 
As recent as a year ago,many haters claimed that China would take decades to produce a decent jet engine, fast forward to now they changed their tones and argue Chinese engine are not as good. I would like to see what they would argue a couple of years from now.
 
I question all military equipment... even Turkish - when i think they are duff. I am not fully convinced on "all" of the proposed use cases for the Akinci drone - and i have called it out on that - go - check...



There is no need. But you are on a "discussion forum" where we want to discuss. This site is not for advertising of products but for discussion. It is to "discuss" based on publically provided facts. One way unsubstantiated claims will get challenged as they are..



See answer above - re:"Discussion forum".



I am on this site to discuss using public facts. This stuff interests me. If someone comes along saying we have Product "X" - it is the best in the world - the best the best - but then provides nothing to back that open, other than "how dare you challenge our ascertion it is the best in the world, it has to be the best because it is Chinese... " - then yeah - you will get called out on it.
@Ali_Baba Calm down. Baby.

I'll say it again. These engines are prepared for PLAAF/PLAN. Not for you. Can you understand? You don't need to be so concerned.

These engines are supported by China's materials industry, metallurgical industry, forging industry, chemical industry, etc.

We don't know what you mean by "but then provides nothing to back that open"?

If you respect the facts. You can buy Turkey engines. as everyone knows. The engine in Turkey is better. More suitable for Pakistan. Why waste time here?

and i heard that TFX has already started learning to take off. I think TFX has passed your certification. This must make you proud.

Now we all know what "facts" and "support" you will accept.

BTW. Blowing and lying are common diseases in South Asia. Please do not transfer it to others.
 
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