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China's Selling the J-31, But Who's Buying?

Pakistan Continues JF-17 Upgrades, Possible Interest in Pak FC-31 Emerges

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan continues to proceed with improvements to its JF-17 Thunder jet fighter program, but the recent Zhuhai air show also revealed possible longer term ambitions to acquire stealth aircraft, namely the Shenyang FC-31.

According to Pakistan officials at Zhuhai, progress is being made to improve the JF-17’s avionics and software, and to fix a probe.

Kaiser Tufail, analyst, author and former air commodore, said these upgrades may not require the aircraft to be sent back to the factory at Pakistani Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, but could be handled locally at unit level.

“As flight trials with different weapons are getting completed, it is time for hardware and software upgrades. I am not sure if these would be done at unit level or factory level; perhaps the former.”

Though the upgrades are not a radical departure from the Block I standard, Tufail nevertheless has “no doubt that they would improve the operational readiness considerably” for the Air Force.

What the future holds for the fighter is uncertain as details of a Block III variant have not been revealed, and Tufail says at present “no one seems willing to talk about them.”

Similarly, analyst Usman Shabbir of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said only reasonable speculation can made at present.

“Block-III is conceptual right now but most likely will see an AESA radar, HMD [helmet-mounted display] and some other avionics improvements. I am not sure if the airframe will be further modified for RCS [radar cross-section] reduction or airframe life enhancements. We just have to wait and see,” he said.

The perennial question regarding the JF-17, however, is its hitherto lack of export orders. Shabbir highlights the disruption facing the fighter’s most likely customers, but is still optimistic.

“Many of the countries that are probable JF-17 buyers have had political or financial turmoil but it is highly likely that an order will be won in 2015.”

Nevertheless, Pakistan revealed that a squadron of 18 JF-17s recently took part in a major exercise in western China, which marks the type’s first large-scale deployment.

Meanwhile, although Pakistan’s apparent interest in the FC-31 has caused a stir, Tufail maintains such an aircraft is not required.

“It seems to be a knee-jerk statement without much substance at this point in time,” he said.

“While stealth capability is welcome, the long-range capability that goes with this aircraft may be an overkill for an Air Force that is configured primarily for tactical air support to surface forces,” he said.

“Besides, a concerted strategic bombing campaign to decimate the enemy’s war-fighting capability needs months to achieve results. That option is a non-starter for nuclear-armed belligerents, as much as it is for the rest of the world, which can’t sit back and watch the dangerous escalation,” he added.

“So, I stick to my previously professed contention that it is tactical fighters that we need first and foremost. Two dozen or so stealth fighters seems more of a ‘fashion’ statement.”

He also highlights a perennial concern for Pakistan that may rule out the FC-31; “Who has got the money? Not Pakistan.”

Whether a Pakistani order for the FC-31 will materialize is unclear, though there will be an eventual need to replace the F-16, which is Pakistan’s most potent front-line combat aircraft.

Analyst, author and former Australian defense attaché to Pakistan, Brian Cloughley, said the FC-31 is a likely candidate, but perhaps not for some time.

“It’s being described in some quarters as an export machine, but that is bound to take a long, long time. Certainly there will have to be some sort of replacement for the F-16s, and it won’t be European or Russian, for obvious reasons, so it must be China,” he said.

“I think we can bet on the Pak FC-31.” ■

Email: uansari@defensenews.com.
 
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HOT~! 75million USD to own FC-31 Stealth Fighter + Next-gen Cockpit + latest HMD + BeiDou GPS

75million USD for FC-31, or 160~250million USD for F-35 ? :partay: $$ vs $$$$$ ...
All developing nations will own their own stealth fighters, Made in China ! :coffee:
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Pakistan will never let its Chinese brothers down, and will do everything to make Chinese Defence and Military industry successful.

PAK FC-31 or J-31 Stealth Fighter will kick Indians anytime...anywhere.

Pakistan should buy and mass produce this J-31 in PAC after 2020 timeline...This is one hell of stealth jet along with J-20s, both China and Pakistan will rip Indians as they have always done in the past.

:china::pakistan:
It's good for both of us if we can make that kind of deal. And an even better idea might be joint develop another 5th generation fighter based on the success of J31. But that'll be a long way to go. We need to have better enigines first.
Don't worry about the Indian air force. The Russian developed T50 is a decent fighter, but after the Indian's operation and maintenance, you can anticipate the crash rate. :)
 
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who can enlighten us about real abilities if china's Defense Products?
Indians do not like Made in China stuff, that understood,
US has its own issues, so that is also out
We must remember that when whole world downgraded USSR made equipment's, many countries bought them and used them with success in many conflicts.
 
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who can enlighten us about real abilities if china's Defense Products?
Indians do not like Made in China stuff, that understood,
US has its own issues, so that is also out
We must remember that when whole world downgraded USSR made equipment's, many countries bought them and used them with success in many conflicts.
Not that right, bro. China smart phone- XiaoMi sell very well in India, Indian also like Made in China ... lol. They dislike China on mouth but love Made in China in action.:partay:
 
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@AsianUnion you are so dumb i was telling this all to @OrionHunter because he is so sure about j-31 i don't doubt j-31 because china has invested around $100 billion in engine technology and after all they are not fools who will waste money..


OK. Alright mate, I didnot mean to attack you. I thought for a second, u r some Indian migrant ran to an overseas country after slums in India gave a nightmare...i 'thanked' ur comment too.

Sometimes heavy busting some dilutional Indians make me do wild things too...I am only a human being. If u stay longer with an Indian, one can even call a banana, an orange...lol

J-20 and J-31 are HERE TO STAY !!!
 
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It's good for both of us if we can make that kind of deal. And an even better idea might be joint develop another 5th generation fighter based on the success of J31. But that'll be a long way to go. We need to have better enigines first.
Don't worry about the Indian air force. The Russian developed T50 is a decent fighter, but after the Indian's operation and maintenance, you can anticipate the crash rate. :)

Now China's first priority is to develop the WS-15, once that is done, then to develop the WS-17 will become a piece of cake.
 
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I don't get it, the article seem to believe advanced military hardware is a buyer's market while reality has shown is a very consistent seller's market and heavily skewed in favor of the seller as well.
 
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J-31 is atleast 5 years away from entering PLAAF as part of a fully operational squadron.
J-20 which will be china specific should enter in 3-4 squadron strength level.

I don't see any country buying J-31 before 2020.

F-35 will be then in service across the globe.
Su-50 would be a major part of the Russian air force and single squadron strength in IAF.
 
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HOT~! 75million USD to own FC-31 Stealth Fighter + Next-gen Cockpit + latest HMD + BeiDou GPS

75million USD for FC-31, or 160~250million USD for F-35 ?

Even China still follow the deal of Su-35.
So order Su-35 is the good deal. It's proven aircraft. And cheap.

J-31 is unproven aircraft, leave it some times for doing that in PLA AF before any order.
 
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Of course Pakistan...and Bangladesh...and who else..might be Sri Lanka will buy it...they are potential customer...for China..
 
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The Chinese Air Force will be the biggest customer
so it can do even without the export orders
Pakistan will surely go for it
Some countries in South America
also Egypt is a potential customer
Can't see U.S.A providing them with the same level of tech as they have provided the Israelis
 
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