China will create own Christian belief system amid tensions with church, says official

[Edison Chen]

Chinese are akin to Japanese in that , in the traditional sense, we emphasize ancestral reverence.

This evident even before Buddhism or any other foreign religion.

I almost miss this point, you mean just because we emphasize ancestral reverence and family value, the religion can only be the second place, right?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I understand this could be the reason why the Japanese didn't adopt Christianity en mass, but still the Koreans did and they have maintained their culture and language, even though some Chinese believe its mostly stolen from China

You know Korea used to write with Chinese characters right? As did Vietnam? But they gave it up, and now they cannot even read their own historical books and documents. That's not really maintaining culture.

Whereas Japanese still write using Chinese characters.

 

[Multani]

Jesus was a Mediterranean Jew.

He probably looked indian by indian standards.

kalagadha, indans are mediterraneans?

 

[Raphael]

That's just very wrong of you to presume and judge. What i like about Catholicism is a universalist concept that all are equal before Divine Providence. No need to add condescension, my man.

I will retract my statement without hesitation when the Pinoy pope arrives .

can you please explain what is wrong with the Philippines. I don't intend any agenda, just asking a question.

The Philippines is a corrupt basket case that undermines regional stability. I'm quite sure that their catholicism plays a role in that. To give you some very concrete examples, Pinoys pay tithes to Rome when they are already so poor. They are prevented from using birth control when it is absolutely necessary to keep their population in check, and to free up their working-age population to enter the productive sectors of the economy. And catholic doctrine requires that they show forgiveness to corrupt politicians who "repent", which means they can never get the problem under control. All the dysfunction means politicians stir up regional problems and disrespect China's territorial integrity so the population is distracted from domestic failures.

 

[Aepsilons]

I understand this could be the reason why the Japanese didn't adopt Christianity en mass

To be honest, Christianity saw a great many conversion of Japanese into the Christian faith in the 16th century. It was not until when the Shogunate forcibly closed the ports to foreign ships and trade, and subsequently eradicated the churches and slaughtered the Japanese Christians who would not relinquish their faith -- that Christianity became an outlawed religion. Many of the Christians were forced to worship in secret or suffer death.

In fact, there were even Japanese Daimyos, and whole domains that converted to Christianity. He is known as Takayama Ukon 高山右近. He was the Lord of Sawa Castle , and Lord of Yamato Prefecture.

 

[KalaGhoda]

kalagadha, indans are mediterraneans?

Yeah...

 

[Europa]

I will retract my statement without hesitation when the Pinoy pope arrives .

classic

 

[Aepsilons]

I almost miss this point, you mean just because we emphasize ancestral reverence and family value, the religion can only be the second place, right?

Yes.

For example, myself. I am Orthodox Christian. I believe in the God of Christianity, but at the same time, I adhere and perform my duty of filial reverence to my ancestors. Ancestral adoration , and performing acts of righteousness by cleaning the tombs, offering prayers for their souls , is part of our culture. We do so as if they are still alive. We do so because we are taught since we were children to always give obeiscance to our parents, our family elders. Dead or alive, still we must. And we must teach our own children to do this, it is a link and bond we have with our ancestors, who, too, did the same when they were alive.

It is part of our Identity. Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. I think we are similar in this regard.

 

[terranMarine]

You are a narrow minded person. Just because I revealed something you don't like, you started to troll my threads.

1, When did Chinese police become Buddhists?

2, In the history, Tibetan killed many people in Tang Dynasty, they fired the border villages, they snatched Han Chinese women to Tibet to be sex slaves. China is too kind to the Tibetans, we build schools, medicals, and transport there, we together with Tibetans make Tibet better. If they don't like China, they can go to India, but leave the land.

There's no English record that the Tibetans did that during the Tang. So he probably doesn't know

did not mean to offend I just assumed most Chinese are buddhist and follow the principles.

no offense but most Chinese are like drones in mentality.

your assumption is way off, is that a typical American thing?
fact remains western religions have a track of records regarding violence and prosecution.
You are mixing up of police violence with religious violence obviously. You can search for witch hunt and crusades if you want but you certainly won't find any history of Chinese religion prosecuting infidels lol.

 

[KalaGhoda]

kalagadha, indans are mediterraneans?

Muttuny, Indians are tropical people...so are Mediterranean.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yes.

For example, myself. I am Orthodox Christian. I believe in the God of Christianity, but at the same time, I adhere and perform my duty of filial reverence to my ancestors. Ancestral adoration , and performing acts of righteousness by cleaning the tombs, offering prayers for their souls , is part of our culture. We do so as if they are still alive. We do so because we are taught since we were children to always give obeiscance to our parents, our family elders. Dead or alive, still we must. And we must teach our own children to do this, it is a link and bond we have with our ancestors, who, too, did the same when they were alive.

It is part of our Identity. Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. I think we are similar in this regard.

I do that every year as well, during the Qingming festival (Ancestor's Day).

I'm not religious, for me it's a cultural thing.

China is known throughout the Islamic world for being the land of wisdom, knowledge, and tolerance for around 1450 years, since its inception. The mosque in Xian is 1000 years old

I agree with the concerns of Chinese members, but some of the comments seem very xenophobic and racist.

Xenophobic perhaps, but I'm sure you will understand our desire to keep our society as it was traditionally.

For example, in many Islamic republics, leaving Islam and converting to Taoism for example, would be illegal and punishable under apostasy laws (including the death penalty). That's their own business, I don't criticize them for it.

In China you can convert to any religion you like, with no punishment. However I personally prefer it if the majority of our population sticks to either traditional/native religions or Atheism. Same as how Islamic countries prefer to stick to their traditional Islam. That's their choice, this is my preference.

 

[Edison Chen]

Yes.

For example, myself. I am Orthodox Christian. I believe in the God of Christianity, but at the same time, I adhere and perform my duty of filial reverence to my ancestors. Ancestral adoration , and performing acts of righteousness by cleaning the tombs, offering prayers for their souls , is part of our culture. We do so as if they are still alive. We do so because we are taught since we were children to always give obeiscance to our parents, our family elders. Dead or alive, still we must. And we must teach our own children to do this, it is a link and bond we have with our ancestors, who, too, did the same when they were alive.

It is part of our Identity. Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. I think we are similar in this regard.

Agreed, that's why collectivism in East Asian culture is more prevailing, like the obeiscance to family elders. In the ancient time, disrespect to the elderly could even be a political problem in China. I wish to give more example, but I have to have my dinner right now.

 

[Aepsilons]

I do that every year as well, during the Qingming festival (Ancestor's Day).
I'm not religious, for me it's a cultural thing.

Its good to hear your still maintain the traditions of your fathers, my friend. You do your ancestors proud.

 

[KalaGhoda]

Its good to hear your still maintain the traditions of your fathers, my friend. You do your ancestors proud.

My ancestors would be horrified at what I've become..

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

You know Korea used to write with Chinese characters right? As did Vietnam? But they gave it up, and now they cannot even read their own historical books and documents. That's not really maintaining culture.

Whereas Japanese still write using Chinese characters.

The Koreans changed their writing system because of Christianity? Why?