China on India’s UNSC Bid: Neither "YES Nor NO"

[ChineseTiger1986]

UN is not supposed to stop war, its a playground for the major power to dominate the world even more.

If it was ROC taking in charge, then i guess China would get kicked from UNSC by 1970s.

They had already done that to ROC, but thanked to PRC who was strong enough to hold that seat as a thermonuclear power.

Dude, When they gave Veto rights to ROC, there was No H Bomb or A Bomb with China, actually China was nothing those times. They just gave it because ROC was a so called democracy :-/

The world only listens the raw power, nothing to do with the so-called 'democracy'.

No one will sympathize the weakling, it doesn't apply to this Darwinist world.

PS, the early ROC was far from the so-called 'western democracy', they got a hereditary system as Chiang Kai-Shek had passed his throne to his biological son.

 

[Beidou2020]

Dude, When they gave Veto rights to ROC, there was No H Bomb or A Bomb with China, actually China was nothing those times. They just gave it because ROC was a so called democracy :-/

Nope. China was part of the victorious nations in WW2. UNSC veto power was given to the 5 major allies in WW2.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Nope. China was part of the victorious nations in WW2. UNSC veto power was given to the 5 major allies in WW2.

But we were not recognized as a de facto victor of the WWII as ROC was too weak to be respected by other major powers.

If China kept getting ruled by ROC, then we would get kicked out from the UNSC in the 1960-1970s, since the world won't respect any weakling.

Why Japan is still fearless today? Because they still perceived ROC as a freeloader who spoiled the victory from the other major powers.

But to equate today's PRC with ROC, then this will become the biggest mistake ever committed by those Japanese right-wing crazies.

 

[Echo_419]

It doesn't matter if China votes for yes or no, since there will be at least one P5 nation to vote for no.

Well everyone else in P5 is a close partner so it all depends on your vote

 

[XiangLong]

UN is not supposed to stop war, its a playground for the major power to dominate the world even more.

See the UN as some sort of highschool... If anything would come even close to resemble the current layout of the UN. XD

Lets say the P5 are like the most popular kids on the schoolgrounds each representing some sort stereotype.

1. China being somewhat the hardworking nerdy girl with some underlaying issues.
2. France being the arrogant hot chick that every guy would go to pound town with either way, for bragging rights.
3. Russia being the buffed masculine delinquent that nobody wants to **** with.
4. The UK being the obnoxious rich kid who comes from a prominent family.
5. And then the US... I think we can all agree upon that the role of sports jockey is perfect for the States.

And also this highschool has some ''fundamental rules'' on schoolgrounds that nobody pays attention to anyway.

 

[dlclong]

Allow India to join, and then against China?

To be honest, the five countries, do not want any other country to join
If there is a country A says that it supports a country B to join, this is only the surface of courtesy, A really does not want someone to share his rights. A knows there will be another country Ｃ　Ｄ　ｏｒ　Ｅ　Ｆ　 opposition. . .Finally, any other country can't to join


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We can enter the UNSC, because our country in World War II, made a great sacrifice

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

"Modi made a strong pitch for India to be given a permanent seat, arguing that the “time is over when India would ask for a favour; today India is asking for its rights.”

On what basis, specifically, is a UNSC permanent seat the 'right of India', say over the right of other countries?

 

[TaiShang]

Why would China have to speak out? Let the rest of the P5 make their stance clear.

But, IF, it comes to China's final word (with the rest saying yes), then China will hardly let India in.

 

[Menace2Society]

If India wants this seat then the least they can do is support CPEC

India is an irresponsible and dangerous nation. The region would be in a worse position if they did get in and I am sure China will make the correct decision.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

"Modi made a strong pitch for India to be given a permanent seat, arguing that the “time is over when India would ask for a favour; today India is asking for its rights.”

On what basis, specifically, is a UNSC permanent seat the 'right of India', say over the right of other countries?

That question is pointless given, India never stated its "only" India's right.

 

[chathrapathi]

Really glad to see china is so scared of india...

 

[TaiShang]

Really glad to see china is so scared of india...

China says neither yes nor no. This means strategic ambiguity. "Scared" is too crass a term for international politics. Especially for major nuclear powers.

 

[chathrapathi]

China says neither yes nor no. This means strategic ambiguity. "Scared" is too crass a term for international politics. Especially for major nuclear powers.

Then what is the problem for china to have india included...
India will grow eventually whethen with UNSC or without...

 

[TaiShang]

Then what is the problem for china to have india included...
India will grow eventually whethen with UNSC or without...

I do not know. It is high geopolitics. For now, China stays neutral because there seems to be no urge among the P5 to ask anyone in.

India will definitely grow, just as Japan did. But, UNSC is just a very privileged league and membership is entirely frozen. UNSC is useful especially when it is dysfunctional and these days, thanks to God, it is dysfunctional.

 

[Raphael]

That question is pointless given, India never stated its "only" India's right.

Not only is it not an exclusive right of India, it's not India's right, period. There's no such thing as a right to the UNSC, not even for countries that fancy themselves as upcoming shupa powas. Even the current UNSC permanent members, who demonstrated their unique and exclusive legitimacy for governing global affairs by ridding the world of fascism during WWII, did not accede to the UNSC on the basis of a 'right'. In fact, France and China weren't guaranteed any position until Roosevelt's personal intervention.