China donates 1,000 firefighting motorcycles to Bangladesh

[beijingwalker]

You will cry like girls and say "Asia for Asians" like usual.

When did we say "Asia for Asians" ? it's my first time to hear it actually. US military bases around world burns their money fast and that's why they want to retreat, we actually hope US keeps them all or even has more, that'll help their economic decline faster than we expected.

 

[UKBengali]

When did we say "Asia for Asians" ? it's my first time to hear it actually. US military bases around world burn their money fast and that's why they want to retreat, we actually hope US keep thme all or even have more, that'll help their economic decline faster than we expected.

Who told you US military bases burn money?
They need them to keep their superpower status. US spends this money to stay on top which makes more money than the base costs.
Anyway a lot of host countries pay the US for the bases.

 

[beijingwalker]

Who told you US military bases burn money?
They need them to keep their superpower status. US spends this money to stay on top which makes more money than the base costs.
Anyway a lot of host countries pay the US for the bases.

Good for them, then keep them, don't try to retreat as what Trump claims US 's gonna do.

 

[Black_cats]

It's your domestic decision, China has many US military bases all around China, couple of more in BD won't change anything for us, why should we care.

Thats the main reason you like to keep the route via Pakistan and Myanmar open.

Because you know it very well strait of hormuz can be closed any time during conflict with USA.

 

[UKBengali]

Good for them, then keep them, don't try to retreat as what Trump claims US 's gonna do.

Trump is smarter than most people think.
He is saying that to get more money and extract other concessions from other countries. It also helps him domestically with voters.
US is not being affected economically by defence spending as it is now 3 and a half % of GDP.
What affected US was the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and they will not repeat them now.

 

[beijingwalker]

Thats the main reason you like to keep the route via Pakistan and Myanmar open.

Because you know it very well strait of hormuz can be closed any time during conflict with USA.

Thats' your speculation, Russia and Kazakhstan alone can provide more than we need, but we prefer diversity of course, China also has huge oil reserve fields which China doesn't mine cause buying oil is much cheaper in the global market.

When China invests, we think more of cheaper and convenient ways to do business, not about wars.

 

[UKBengali]

Thats' your speculation, Russia and Kazakhstan alone can provide more than we need, but we prefer diversity of course, China also has huge oil reserve fields which China doesn't mine cause buying oil is much cheaper in the global market.

When China invests, we think more of cheaper and convenient ways to do business, not about wars.

China consumes 13 million barrels per day and imports 9 million barrels per day. You have oil reserves of 25 billion barrels at present.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/top-15-crude-oil-suppliers-to-china/

"

1. Russia: US$37.9 billion (15.8% of China’s total imported crude)
2. Saudi Arabia: $29.7 billion (12.4%)
3. Angola: $24.9 billion (10.4%)
4. Iraq: $22.4 billion (9.4%)
5. Oman: $17.3 billion (7.2%)
6. Brazil: $16.2 billion (6.8%)
7. Iran: $15 billion (6.3%)
8. Kuwait: $11.9 billion (5%)
9. Venezuela: $7 billion (2.9%)
10. United States: $6.8 billion (2.8%)
11. United Arab Emirates: $6.7 billion (2.8%)
12. Congo: $6.4 billion (2.7%)
13. Colombia: $5 billion (2.1%)
14. Malaysia: $4.8 billion (2%)
15. Libya: $4.7 billion (2%)"

LOL - The only one on that list that you will have guaranteed oil exports from is Russia. Most of the rest you will have to go through waters controlled by USN.

Dude, you think that you can increase oil imports like turning on a tap like that? It will take years of infrastructure upgrades to allow the supply to even be increased by 1 million barrels a year.
Even in your own country you will need years to supply any meaningful extra quantity of oil and you have only 25 billion barrels to start with.

China is truly stuffed if the USN decides to block it's oil supplies.

 

[beijingwalker]

China consumes 13 million barrels per day and imports 9 million barrels per day. You have oil reserves of 25 billion barrels at present.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/top-15-crude-oil-suppliers-to-china/

"

1. Russia: US$37.9 billion (15.8% of China’s total imported crude)
2. Saudi Arabia: $29.7 billion (12.4%)
3. Angola: $24.9 billion (10.4%)
4. Iraq: $22.4 billion (9.4%)
5. Oman: $17.3 billion (7.2%)
6. Brazil: $16.2 billion (6.8%)
7. Iran: $15 billion (6.3%)
8. Kuwait: $11.9 billion (5%)
9. Venezuela: $7 billion (2.9%)
10. United States: $6.8 billion (2.8%)
11. United Arab Emirates: $6.7 billion (2.8%)
12. Congo: $6.4 billion (2.7%)
13. Colombia: $5 billion (2.1%)
14. Malaysia: $4.8 billion (2%)
15. Libya: $4.7 billion (2%)"

LOL - The only one on that list that you will have guaranteed oil exports from is Russia. Most of the rest you will have to go through waters controlled by USN.

Dude, you think that you can increase oil imports like turning on a tap like that? It will take years of infrastructure upgrades to allow the supply to even be increased by 1 million barrels a year.
Even in your own country you will need years to supply any meaningful extra quantity of oil and you have only 25 billion barrels to start with.

China is truly stuffed if the USN decides to block it's oil supplies.

As I mentioned , China has massive oid, shale oil reserves comparable to US, now the oil price is very cheap in the global market and it's more worth it for China to simply buy them in the global market than mining by herself, it's more cost effective for China.

China is also surrounded by oil rich countries and you worry too much about China in terms of oil supply, sure we want diversify our channels but even some channels are blocked we can easily switch or increase the volume of other channels, is it like rocket science to you? and that's for the worst case scenario, experience tells us worst case scenario are extremely rare to become true, especially in the future when China becomes several times even more powerful and wealthy than she is today.

 

[bluesky]

You call spending 17 billion US dollars this year on infrastructure "a few projects" ?
You think it is nothing that Walton has started exporting TVs to Germany now? - first batch is 3500 TVs but the German importer wants 100,000 sets.
You call the 97% domination of the drug industry by BD companies not significant? Drugs exports have crossed the 100 million US dollar mark now(growing 15% a year) and even the US FDA has given clearance to BD drug imports to USA. Indians are now worried about stiff competition from BD.

Yes BD will not be a developed country in 2041 but it is making good progress in a lot of areas. The glass should be looked as half-full than half-empty.

For an individual person or company, the export figure is great. For a nation, it is a peanut. A single or a few industrial pockets or a few km of road infrastructure does not prove BD has become a developed country. It is a very long way.

People of a developed country do not live in the garbage-filled roads, hawker-infested footpaths or knee-deep rainwater without being disposed of. Take up many such CIVIL engineering projects as can be seen in the developed countries and claim to have become a CIVILIZED nation.

Whatever you guys say in this forum, BD still remains in the "preparation stage" of development that started in 1947 and will continue for a few decades before even it can reach the "developing" stage. The "Developed" stage is too far away.

The process of development will continue many more decades. It took Germany for more than 200 years to develop, Japan took more than 150 years. Point is these countries developed their technologies by themselves. In the case of BD, WALTON imports all the factory machines and body parts of the refrigerators to assemble in their shops, and you claim it is development.

Why do you guys talk about export? Better, develop your industries to fulfill the local demands and import less from China, India, Malaysia or Pakistan. The trade balance is in the negative now because the country imports all kinds of consumer goods.

By the way, when BD will produce many firefighting motorcycles instead of getting donations from China? It is a shame.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Genocide is always a global issue. Thats why UN led investigation is necessary to determine what actually happened.

Obviously Bangladesh do rely on foreign power and prefer to internationalize the matter to create pressure on Myanmar to resolve it.

Sanction though UN would be best approach. But China blocked it for that reason proper pressure could not be created on Myanmar so that it is forced to take back the Rohingyas.

Ah. you also know that BD has no power to suppress Myanmar.

So why do you think BD can change UNSC's decision?

 

[UKBengali]

As I mentioned , China has massive oid, shale oil reserves comparable to US, now the oil price is very cheap in the global market and it's more worth it for China to simply buy them in the global market than mining by herself, it's more cost effective for China.

China is also surrounded by oil rich countries and you worry too much about China in terms of oil supply, sure we want diversify our channels but even some channels are blocked we can easily switch or increase the volume of other channels, is it like rocket science to you? and that's for the worst case scenario, experience tells us worst case scenario are extremely rare to become true, especially in the future when China becomes several times even more powerful and wealthy than she is today.

You are not listening to me are you?

China imports 9 million barrels of oil and this is growing.

Increasing oil supply is not like turning a tap oil as it takes years of infrastructure upgrades to even get 1 million extra barrels of oil from either overseas or China itself.

If the USN blockaded China, then the civilian economy would be severely affected within months as the stockpiled oil ran out.

For an individual person or company, the export figure is great. For a nation, it is a peanut. A single or a few industrial pockets or a few km of road infrastructure does not prove BD has become a developed country. It is a very long way.

People of a developed country do not live in the garbage-filled roads, hawker-infested footpaths or knee-deep rainwater without being disposed of. Take up many such CIVIL engineering projects as can be seen in the developed countries and claim to have become a CIVILIZED nation.

Whatever you guys say in this forum, BD still remains in the "preparation stage" of development that started in 1947 and will continue for a few decades before even it can reach the "developing" stage. The "Developed" stage is too far away.

The process of development will continue many more decades. It took Germany for more than 200 years to develop, Japan took more than 150 years. Point is these countries developed their technologies by themselves. In the case of BD, WALTON imports all the factory machines and body parts of the refrigerators to assemble in their shops, and you claim it is development.

Why do you guys talk about export? Better, develop your industries to fulfill the local demands and import less from China, India, Malaysia or Pakistan. The trade balance is in the negative now because the country imports all kinds of consumer goods.

By the way, when BD will produce many firefighting motorcycles instead of getting donations from China? It is a shame.

I will just focus at Walton in this reply

Why do you think it should be able to produce it's own machines to make TVs when BD is a poor 3rd world country?

What Walton does is use the imported German machines to produce the motherboard, LCD screens and speakers etc for TVs
As for refrigerators it does not assemble them as it uses the imported machines to produce the compressors and other components of the fridges.

So the stages of technology levels are as follows:

Assemble > Use imported machines to manufacture the components > Produce everything including the machines.


As you can see from above Walton is in the 2nd stage now. It will take BD and Walton 1-2 decades to get to the 3rd stage.

 

[Black_cats]

Ah. you also know that BD has no power to suppress Myanmar.

So why do you think BD can change UNSC's decision?

Bangladesh is internationalizing the issue. It is not about suppressing Myanmar which is only 22% of Bangladesh's economy rather not like to derail rapid economic growth that Bangladesh is achieving.

If peaceful solution does not come sooner or later suppressing Myanmar will definitely be an option with global coalition as genocide is not Bangladesh's issue rather it's a global issue.

It is not about Bangladesh can not change the UNSC decision rather China is utilizing it's veto power illegally. For it's self centered policy it is creating a negative self centered narrow minded policy making image of itself from Africa to South East Asia.

Even in Bangladesh China had a positive image but after self centered action in regards to Myanmar China's image has gone far below India.

 

[UKBengali]

Bangladesh is internationalizing the issue. It is not about suppressing Myanmar which is only 22% of Bangladesh's economy rather not like to derail rapid economic growth that Bangladesh is achieving.

If peaceful solution does not come sooner or later suppressing Myanmar will definitely be an option with global coalition as genocide is not Bangladesh's issue rather it's a global issue.

It is not about Bangladesh can not change the UNSC decision rather China is utilizing it's veto power illegally. For it's self centered policy it is creating a negative self centered narrow minded policy maker of itself from Africa to South East Asia.

Even in Bangladesh China had a positive image but after self centered action in regards to Myanmar China's image has gone far below India.

Chinese do not realise how much the US has been helped by their selfish short-sighted decision to help Myanmar.

 

[bluesky]

You are not listening to me are you?

China imports 9 million barrels of oil and this is growing.

Increasing oil supply is not like turning a tap oil as it takes years of infrastructure upgrades to even get 1 million extra barrels of oil from either overseas or China itself.

If the USN blockaded China, then the civilian economy would be severely affected within months as the stockpiled oil ran out.

Who likes to listen to your stupid opinions on a subject that you have little clue about. Read the fundamentals of "national economic development" and come give your opinion.

 

[UKBengali]

Who likes to listen to your stupid opinions on a subject that you have little clue about. Read the fundamentals of "national economic development" and come give your opinion.

Are you stupid getting involved in a topic that is nothing to do with you?

Now, learn to behave as otherwise I will put you on ignore for 8 months next time.