China donates 1,000 firefighting motorcycles to Bangladesh

[fallstuff]

I won’t disagree looking at what happens to the Volvo BRTC buses.

The starting price in USA is $18,395.
https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/models/tour/r1200rt.html.

If I was a firefighter in Dhaka , I would most definitely try to take out one for joyride.

 

[bluesky]

To be considered advanced economy one needs certain per capita gdp or income not GDP. India is still a developing country. Little ahead of Bangladesh but it’s not uniform developing country. It has poorest stats like Bihar and Uttar Pradesh which only has around 1000 dollar per capita gdp where more than 1/3 Indian population lives and living condition is equivalent to Sub Saharan Africa. It has places like Goa, Chandigarh, Delhi with more than 4000 usd per capita GDP. Majority of states between 1000-2000 usd per capita gdp and others between 2000-3000 usd per capita gdp.

Such a country even with lots of technology will take much longer time to develop.

It has been explained number of time develop country or advanced economy concept has come from attaining certain per capita gdp by 2041. If Bangladesh can maintain 8% plus real growth between the time it is very much possible.

You are completely wrong about your projection by 2041. How can you do it in BD without first industrializing the country? I do not see any big-scale industrialization. It is because the country lacks home-developed technology to make it happen. Even a small factory needs to import its machines. It means BD is unable to design and produce them. Also, virtually there are no big or basic primary industries except cement.

The country lacks all the ingredients to reach even the "Developing" stage. Most of its roads and transport system remain underdeveloped. The transportation/road/railway system is very very weak although British India contributed to the development of the railway and the road system was developed during Pakistan time.

Progress in the mobile telephone network is certainly not the only component. BD needs to build a more visible physical structure system to prove that it is developing with local participation instead of foreign ones.

With so many hundreds of things to build and develop it is not wise to claim the status only in 2041 when even the country is still going through the state of "Preparation for economic take-off" stage since 1947 and I must say this stage will continue for another few decades before it can reach even the "Economic take-off" stage.

On the contrary, India has already reached the economic take-off stage and is growing with strength. It can build its own bridges, dams, overhead highways, railways, and hundred others. BD is just incapable to do any by itself. Even it sought Indian Railway helps to rebuild part of its railway network that was destroyed by the BD people's greed for illicit money.

If Indian per capita GDP is still not uniform it is because of other factors such as past colonial legacy and JATPAT. On the other hand, Indian lack of reaching a certain stage by now only proves that a much longer time is needed for Bangladesh to reach near such a state. We should not be complacent with only the garments sector.

 

[beijingwalker]

Everyone gets triggered by nasty comments sometime. Nothing exclusive to a Bangladeshi or Chinese flagger (if real). I wouldn't paint things with so broad a brush.

And people CAN have bad days. No one wakes up in the morning saying, "I am going to attack China and Chinese posters in every thread today".

How many Myanmarese are here in PDF with fake Chinese flags? Quite a few....

Not saying you are one - though.

This insulting each other mess was started by Bangladeshi posters here, Chinese posters didn't have anything against Bangladesh before a sundden surge of China bashing posts emerged in this forum by Bangladeshis.
China's foreign policies are always based on non interference of other countries dometic affairs and I don't think China will change this decades old policy for Bangladesh.
If you don't like Chinese government position, you can vote against China in funture UN meetings, no one can make China bend to their wills. You fight agianst Myanmar is your two nations business, China can have a position based on what we see this problem, neither Bangladesh or Myanmar can force China to look at it from their different perspectives.

 

[bluesky]

This insulting each other mess was started by Bangladeshi posters here, Chinese posters didn't have anything against Bangladesh before a sundden surge of China bashing posts emerged in this forum by Bangladeshis.
China's foreign policies are always based on non interference of other countries dometic affairs and I don't think China will change this decades old policy for Bangladesh.

Non-interference is a wrong expression of what China did in the UN. It together with Russia vetoed the Rohingya resolution directly supporting MM. So, technically, the veto was in support of MM. This Chinese overture made people in BD anti-China. It is probable that the Chinese leadership hoped of a MM soft attitude should China take steps to resolve the issue. But, it did not materialize that way.

It was a complete failure of Chinese foreign diplomacy.

 

[beijingwalker]

Non-interference is a wrong expression of what China did in the UN. It together with Russia vetoed the Rohingya resolution directly supporting MM. So, technically, the veto was in support of MM. This Chinese overture made people in BD anti-China. It is probable that the Chinese leadership hoped of a MM soft attitude should China take a stem to resolve the issue. But, it did not materialize that way.

It was a complete failure of Chinese foreign diplomacy.

Non interference means not interfering with other countries domestic affaris, western powers always tend to use UN as a tool for them to directly get into other couontries domestic affair which cause so many civil wars and disasters, which country did Myanmar invadede? What happened in Myanmar is their country's domestic issues.

If today the west can sanction Myamar as they please, tomorrow they will do the same to Bangladesh and China over our minority issues in Xinjiang or Tibet, China never supported using sanctions to get things done.

 

[Black_cats]

Non interference means not interfering with other countries domestic affaris, western powers always tend to use UN as a tool for them to directly get into other couontries domestic affair which cause so many civil wars and disasters, which country did Myanmar invadede? What happened in Myanmar is their country's domestic issues.

If today the west can sanction Myamar as they please, tomorrow they will do the same to Bangladesh and China over our minority issues in Xinjiang or Tibet, China never supported using sanctions to get things done.

When a million of it's countryman had to flee to other country for rape and murder along with genocide it is no longer a domestic issue. I hope you have that knowledge and idea.

China supporting Myanmar at UN supported this genocide directly or indirectly.

 

[beijingwalker]

When a million of it's countryman had to flee to other country for rape and murder along with genocide it is no longer a domestic issue. I hope you have that knowledge and idea.

China supporting Myanmar at UN supported this genocide directly or indirectly.

We vetoed to use sanctions against a sovereign country, China is always keen to solve the issue through dialogue, it's in China's interest to have peace in that region, sanctions can only cause more suffering for the people and it never worked.

We always know what the west wants to achieve in that regions, to pitch the countries against each other and plunged the whole region into chaos and wars, China won't allow that to happen.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

When a million of it's countryman had to flee to other country for rape and murder along with genocide it is no longer a domestic issue. I hope you have that knowledge and idea.

China supporting Myanmar at UN supported this genocide directly or indirectly.

ah, in short, all this is China's mistakes.
So what you want to do?

 

[Black_cats]

We vetoed to use sanctions against a sovereign country, China is always keen to solve the issue through dialogue, it's in China's interest to have peace in that region, sanctions can only cause more suffering for the people and it never worked.

We always know what the west wants to achieve in that regions, to pitch the countries against each other and plunged the whole region into chaos and wars, China won't allow that to happen.

It is a good idea that China does not want any war in the region. But has it convinced Myanmar to resolve the root cause of the problem even after 1-2 years?

For info it is not just this 1 million rohingyas but 2.5-3 million rohingyas are living in stateless condition as worst persecuted minorities in the world for last 3-4 decades.

Suporting such savages oly encouraging them to carry out the brutalities.

ah, in short, all this is China's mistakes.
So what you want to do?

Those who are responsible to bring them to justice. Conduct a UN led investigation for the genocide so that proper punishment can be provided to the culprits.

Finally then giving back citizenship to these 2.5 million - 3 million Rohingyas who are living like stateless condition since 1982 in 19 countries, so that they can live like a normal human being without any fear which is the root of the problem and forcing Myanmar to comply with world demand.

 

[beijingwalker]

It is a good idea that China does not want any war in the region. But has it convinced Myanmar to resolve the root cause of the problem even after 1-2 years?

For info it is not just this 1 million rohingyas but 2.5-3 million rohingyas are living in stateless condition as worst persecuted minorities in the world for last 3-4 decades.

Suporting such savages oly encouraging them to carry out the brutalities.

It's much better now after international mediation,which China is an active part of it. more works need to be done of course, besides, there are tons of false information circling around on the internet, you can take everything you hear for granted, we learned this rule firsthand about massive false reports about China. check out what happened in the middle east and you can see how western sanction work, I hope you dont wish your country plunges into wars and conflicts and loses everything you earned during the years.

 

[Black_cats]

It's China's support which is encouraging to carry out the genocide.

It's much better now after international mediation,which China is an active part of it. more works need to be done of course, besides, there are tons of false information circling around on the internet, you can take everything you hear for granted, we learned this rule firsthand about massive false reports about China. check out what happened in the middle east and you can see how western sanction work, I hope you dont wish your country plunges into wars and conflicts and loses everything you earned during the years.

Why does not Myanmar allowed media and UN go there for investigation if all reports are false? What do you think can make 1 million people to make days of journey by walking to come to Bangladesh if nothing has happened?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

It is a good idea that China does not want any war in the region. But has it convinced Myanmar to resolve the root cause of the problem even after 1-2 years?

For info it is not just this 1 million rohingyas but 2.5-3 million rohingyas are living in stateless condition as worst persecuted minorities in the world for last 3-4 decades.

Suporting such savages oly encouraging them to carry out the brutalities.



Those who are responsible to bring them to justice. Conduct a UN led investigation for the genocide so that proper punishment can be provided to the culprits.

Finally then giving back citizenship to these 2.5 million - 3 million Rohingyas who are living like stateless condition since 1982 in 19 countries, so that they can live like a normal human being without any fear which is the root of the problem and forcing Myanmar to comply with world demand.

haha. so you still need to rely on foreign power.

 

[Black_cats]

It's costing 3.3 billion usd annually. Partially covered by aid but it is drying up. Who will pay after that?

 

[beijingwalker]

Those who are responsible to bring them to justice. Conduct a UN led investigation for the genocide so that proper punishment can be provided to the culprits.

Finally then giving back citizenship to these 2.5 million - 3 million Rohingyas who are living like stateless condition since 1982 in 19 countries, so that they can live like a normal human being without any fear which is the root of the problem and forcing Myanmar to comply with world demand.

If the west can really change Myanmar, Myanmar won't be the country it is like today, you can only work things out through dialogues and negotiations.

You have a lot of demands, even UN passed your demands, what if Myanmar refused? What are you gonna do about it except for making them hate you more.

The so called international tribunal ruled against China in SCS, and then what? It won't change anything.

 

[Black_cats]

haha. so you still need to rely on foreign power.

Genocide is always a global issue. Thats why UN led investigation is necessary to determine what actually happened.

Obviously Bangladesh do rely on foreign power and prefer to internationalize the matter to create pressure on Myanmar to resolve it.

Sanction though UN would be best approach. But China blocked it for that reason proper pressure could not be created on Myanmar so that it is forced to take back the Rohingyas.