China donates 1,000 firefighting motorcycles to Bangladesh

[UKBengali]

No, you are not listening, China diversifies channels of oil import by choice, not a must, China can stop importing oil from any country and increase the amount form other countries even now today, what they sell to China is far from their capacity, it's the oil suppliers courting China and want China to increase their share, not China courts them. If push comes to shove, China can import more from neighoring country and turn to tap her own oil resources.but again, US blocks the strait is very unlikely today, and will be more unlikely in the future cause it may lose the ability to do so.

Bangladesh doesn't have to worry about China, If US really wants to block the strait, it can do so with or without Bangladesh, so you are not really that make or break important.

OK, let me explain another way.

Say USN blockades China today.

That means only 2-2.5 million barrels of oil can reach China from Russia and Kazakhstan. China now needs to make up 6.5-7 million barrels of lost imports.

It has the following options:

1. Use it's stored strategic reserves but if it uses this it may not have enough left after only a few months for it's military to fight the US if it comes to war.
2. Tap it's own reserves to increase production but that would take maybe at least a year to pump even 1 million extra barrels of oil
3.Ask Russia and Kazakhstan to pump more oil if possible through pre-existing pipelines. They may be able to pump 0.5-1 million barrels extra but any more would take time and substantial investment.

USN will not blockade you alone as JN and IN are likely to join in.

USN base in BD will mean that Bay of Bengal will come under US control and so Myanmar becomes useless to bypass Malacca Straights.

 

[beijingwalker]

OK, let me explain another way.

Say USN blockades China today.

That means only 2-2.5 million barrels of oil can reach China from Russia and Kazakhstan. China now needs to make up 6.5-7 million barrels of lost imports.

It has the following options:

1. Use it's stored strategic reserves but if it uses this it may not have enough left after only a few months for it's military to fight the US if it comes to war.
2. Tap it's own reserves to increase production but that would take maybe at least a year to pump even 1 million extra barrels of oil
3.Ask Russia and Kazakhstan to pump more oil if possible through pre-existing pipelines. They may be able to pump 0.5-1 million barrels extra but any more would take time and substantial investment.

USN will not blockade you alone as JN and IN are likely to join in.

USN base in BD will mean that Bay of Bengal will come under US control and so Myanmar becomes useless to bypass Malacca Straights.

Ok, let me tell you again, your speculation is your own business, and even if US decides to block the strait, it can do so with or without Banladesh, you are not a major player to change anything there.

 

[UKBengali]

Ok, let me tell you again, your speculation is your own business, and even if US decides to block the strait, it can do so with or without Banladesh, you are not a major player to change anything there.

These are facts and not speculation.
Read out about how much time and investment it requires
to increase oil production in an existing field or lay a new pipeline.

US thinks that BD could be a major player as it wants to base a USN CBG group in the country. So far BD has said no.

 

[beijingwalker]

These are facts and not speculation.
Read out about how much time and investment it requires
to increase oil production in an existing field or lay a new pipeline.

US thinks that BD could be a major player as it wants to base a USN CBG group in the country. So far BD has said no.

If US decides to block the strait, it can do so with or without Banladesh, you are not a major player to change anything there, US won't make decisions this huge based on Bangladesh's position, you should at least understand something this simple.

 

[UKBengali]

If US decides to block the strait, it can do so with or without Banladesh, you are not a major player to change anything there, US won't make decisions this huge based on Bangladesh's position, you should at least understand something this simple.

USN can blockade China without BD but it would like a base in BD to make it easier for them.

Base in BD is to put pressure on China in Myanmar mainly.

Please try to understand what I am trying to say before posting.

 

[beyond2018]

You are not listening to me are you?

China imports 9 million barrels of oil and this is growing.

Increasing oil supply is not like turning a tap oil as it takes years of infrastructure upgrades to even get 1 million extra barrels of oil from either overseas or China itself.

If the USN blockaded China, then the civilian economy would be severely affected within months as the stockpiled oil ran out.







I will just focus at Walton in this reply

Why do you think it should be able to produce it's own machines to make TVs when BD is a poor 3rd world country?

What Walton does is use the imported German machines to produce the motherboard, LCD screens and speakers etc for TVs
As for refrigerators it does not assemble them as it uses the imported machines to produce the compressors and other components of the fridges.

So the stages of technology levels are as follows:

Assemble > Use imported machines to manufacture the components > Produce everything including the machines.


As you can see from above Walton is in the 2nd stage now. It will take BD and Walton 1-2 decades to get to the 3rd stage.

Out of curiosity, I searched walton tv，wow，too expensive!
https://www.waltonbd.com/?route=product/category&path=33_77
https://list.tmall.com/search_produ...858.a2227oh.d100&from=.list.pc_1_searchbutton
And if the other brands are so expensive in BD?

 

[UKBengali]

Out of curiosity, I searched walton tv，wow，too expensive!
https://www.waltonbd.com/?route=product/category&path=33_77
https://list.tmall.com/search_produ...858.a2227oh.d100&from=.list.pc_1_searchbutton
And if the other brands are so expensive in BD?

Yes as the quality is now high enough that Walton has signed agreement to export into Germany.

Walton has over 70% market share in fridges and around 50% in TVs.

Samsung started making TVs in BD and so it will interesting to see whether they can challenge Walton.

 

[beijingwalker]

USN can blockade China without BD but it would like a base in BD to make it easier for them.
.

They have many bases in gulf region, they didn't wait to have a Bangladesh base to attack Iraq and Syria, if they like to do it, they can do it today, Bangladesh is never a deciding factor in US middle east decision making. It's easier or not for them to do so doesn't matter to us if it happens.

 

[beyond2018]

Yes as the quality is now high enough that Walton has signed agreement to export into Germany.

Walton has over 70% market share in fridges and around 50% in TVs.

Samsung started making TVs in BD and so it will interesting to see whether they can challenge Walton.

Good ,then walton is pure local company or joint venture?

 

[UKBengali]

Good ,then walton is pure local company or joint venture?

Pure local company.

It has a R&D centre and as an example designs it's own LCD screens for TVs and mobiles.

 

[UKBengali]

They have many bases in gulf region, they didn't wait to have a Bangladesh base to attack Iraq and Syria, if they like to do it, they can do it today, Bangladesh is never a deciding factor in US middle east decision making. It's easier or not for them to do so doesn't matter to us if it happens.

BD and Myanmar are not in ME.

 

[beijingwalker]

BD and Myanmar are not in ME.

Hormuz is and you talked about US blocking of the strait, it won't need you permission to do so.

 

[UKBengali]

Hormuz is and you talked about US blocking of the strait, it won't need you permission to do so.

OK. Misunderstanding then.

US can already block China in Hormuz and Malacca due to their bases in those regions. In Singapore they do not have a base strictly speaking but they make use of Changi and it is large enough to accommodate an aircraft carrier.
Base in BD would allow them to also block China in Myanmar.
Like I already said, US wants a base in BD and has been refused so far by the government.

 

[beijingwalker]

OK. Misunderstanding then.

US can already block China in Hormuz and Malacca due to their bases in those regions. In Singapore they do not have a base strictly speaking but they make use of Changi and it is large enough to accommodate an aircraft carrier.
Base in BD would allow them to also block China in Myanmar.
Like I already said, US wants a base in BD and has been refused so far by the government.

I don't doubt about it, they always can, but still nothing happened, China and US are so closely intertwined in trade and economies as a whole, they can't hurt China before hurting themselvs more, that's why a trade agreement is in the making.

 

[UKBengali]

I don't doubt about it, they always can, but still nothing happened, China and US are so closely intertwined in trade and economies as a whole, they can't hurt China before hurting themselvs more, that's why a trade agreement is in the making.

Yes, we can agree here.
A war between US and China would not only damage them but the rest of the world as well.
We need to learn to share this planet and it's resources in a fair and peaceful manner.