China donates 1,000 firefighting motorcycles to Bangladesh

[beijingwalker]

Genocide is always a global issue. Thats why UN led investigation is necessary to determine what actually happened.

Obviously Bangladesh do rely on foreign power and prefer to internationalize the matter to create pressure on Myanmar to resolve it.

Sanction though UN would be best approach. But China blocked it for that reason proper pressure could not be created on Myanmar so that it is forced to take back the Rohingyas.

Myanmar was under western sanctions for decades, they are pretty used to that actually.

China just did what she has to do, and Bangladeshis are just out in force to attack China in everything, that shows how immature your people's mentaltiy is.

Bangladesh should know there's no silver bullet for this issue with or without UN resolutions, all parties have to work together to get it solved, sanctions and wars can only make things much worse, China will go on being actively involved and working with all relevant parties to get the problem solved.

 

[Black_cats]

Myanmar was under western sanctions for decades, they are pretty used to that actually.

China just did what she has to do, and Bangladeshis are just out in force to attack China in everything, that shows how immature your people's mentaltiy is.

Economic sanction always bites. It would force the military Janta to change their mindset as most Myanmar people would not like to be remain under sanctioned as opening up the economy has brought some prosperity to its people.

It is open for everyone to see mainly to access bay of bengal China is using Myanmar and hence shielding it from any punitive measure for genocide that it has carried out.

 

[beijingwalker]

Economic sanction always bites. It would force the military Janta to change their mindset as most Myanmar people would not like to be remain under sanctioned as opening up the economy has brought some prosperity to its people.

It is open for everyone to see mainly to access bay of bengal China is using Myanmar and hence shielding it from any punitive measure for genocide that it has carried out.

Every country has their pride, which country bent to eocomic sanctions in recent history? China was under sanction after 1989, did China buckle? Sanctions bringing countries to their knees is just a wishful thinking.

China will do her part to try to get things done smoothly through peaceful and coperative means.

Chinese govt to play mediator in sending back Rohingyas refugees from Bangladesh to Myanmar
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...angladesh-to-myanmar/articleshow/68788655.cms

 

[bluesky]

Non interference means not interfering with other countries domestic affaris, western powers always tend to use UN as a tool for them to directly get into other couontries domestic affair which cause so many civil wars and disasters, which country did Myanmar invadede? What happened in Myanmar is their country's domestic issues.

If today the west can sanction Myamar as they please, tomorrow they will do the same to Bangladesh and China over our minority issues in Xinjiang or Tibet, China never supported using sanctions to get things done.

Your definition of non-interference is self-made by China and is quite bizarre. By any definition, China sided with MM. Should it have decided not to veto you could have claimed non-interference.

However, why do you think Rohingya is just a domestic matter of MM when more than a million destitute people ran for lives and crossed the international border to a poor country, BD? Two countries are involved and so it is a multinational matter. Very strange, you are here scapegoating western powers as if MM is a part of Taiwan.

Being a world power, China should get out of its Eunuch mindset vis-a-vis MM. We know China wants Arakan gas and access to BoB. But, MM alone cannot guarantee safe access to BoB. It will be certainly challenged in the long run by others.

 

[beijingwalker]

Your definition of non-interference is self-made by China. By any definition of this expression China sided with MM. Should it have decided not to veto you could have claimed non-interference.

However, why do you think Rohingya is just a domestic matter of MM when more than a million destitute people ran for lives and crossed the international border to a poor country, BD? Two countries are involved and so it is a multinational matter. Very strange, you are here scapegoating western powers as if MM is a part of Taiwan.

Being a world power, China should get out of its Eunuch mindset vis-a-vis MM. We know China wants Arakan gas and access to BoB. But, MM alone cannot guarantee safe access to BoB. It will be certainly challenged in the long run by others.

China vetoed it because China see it as interference in another country's domestic affairs, if China approved it or let it pass, in the future some western powers will use it against China herself over minority issues in Xinjiang and Tibet.

Myanmar didn't invade any country, if Bangladesh doesn't want to be part of it, it can just seal off the borders, it's just quite so natural for Burmese to suspect Bangladesh's real motive in this whole issue, If I were them, I will .

China vetoed the bill based on principles she followed for decades, no foreign intereference in other countries internal affairs, no sanctions against sovereign nations, cause China herself was once the victim them and she doesn't want to experience them again, China just did what he has to do.

 

[Black_cats]

China vetoed it because China see it as interference in another country's domestic affairs, if China approved it or let it pass, in the future some western powers will use it against China herself over minority issues in Xinjiang and Tibet.

Myanmar didn't invade any country, if Bangladesh doesn't want to be part of it, it can just seal off the borders, it's just quite so natural for Burmese to suspect Bangladesh's real motive in this whole issue, If I were them, I will .

China vetoed the bill based on principles she followed for decades, no foreign intereference in other countries internal affairs, no sanctions against sovereign nations, cause China herself was once the victim them and she doesn't want to experience them again, China just did what he has to do.

It is not domestic matter of Myanmar when 1 million of it's people fled to another country due to rape, murderer and genocide. I am repeating what I have said.

Bangladesh has no intention unless Bangladesh would have to host around 1.5 million Rohingyas.

China has played dirty games just for self serve interest to get access to the Bay of Bengal.

Bangladesh acted nice with China so that China can not say Bangladesh did not show interest to their negotiation offer.

But what is the outcome of such negotiation.

 

[UKBengali]

China vetoed it because China see it as interference in another country's domestic affairs, if China approved it or let it pass, in the future some western powers will use it against China herself over minority issues in Xinjiang and Tibet.

Myanmar didn't invade any country, if Bangladesh doesn't want to be part of it, it can just seal off the borders, it's just quite so natural for Burmese to suspect Bangladesh's real motive in this whole issue, If I were them, I will .

China vetoed the bill based on principles she followed for decades, no foreign intereference in other countries internal affairs, no sanctions against sovereign nations, cause China herself was once the victim them and she doesn't want to experience them again, China just did what he has to do.

LOL @ analogy with Xinjiang and Tibet as China has not declared them non citizens and expelled the bulk of them to another country.
Anyway China can veto any resolutions that are against it.

Whole world now knows you are a selfish country that is protecting savages from getting the justice they deserve for access to Bay of Bengal. Shame on you China.

 

[beijingwalker]

It is not domestic matter of Myanmar when 1 million of it's people fled to another country due to rape, murderer and genocide. I am repeating what I have said.

Bangladesh has no intention unless Bangladesh would have to host around 1.5 million Rohingyas.

China has played dirty games just for self serve interest to get access to the Bay of Bengal.

Bangladesh acted nice with China so that China can not say Bangladesh did not show interest to their negotiation offer.

But what is the outcome of such negotiation.

Myanmar now at least is willing to take them back, of course it'll take some time, but in principle it's being agreed upon, calling China's dirty game is less true than calling it a western drity game and China won't fall for it.
As long as Myanmar doesn't invade another country, it's their domestic issues and no one can force on them, if Bangladesh doesn't want to be part of it, why just seal off the border and refuse to let Rohingyas in? What are you doing would surely raise a lot of suspision on the Myanmar side.

 

[Bilal9]

This insulting each other mess was started by Bangladeshi posters here, Chinese posters didn't have anything against Bangladesh before a sundden surge of China bashing posts emerged in this forum by Bangladeshis.
China's foreign policies are always based on non interference of other countries dometic affairs and I don't think China will change this decades old policy for Bangladesh.
If you don't like Chinese government position, you can vote against China in funture UN meetings, no one can make China bend to their wills. You fight agianst Myanmar is your two nations business, China can have a position based on what we see this problem, neither Bangladesh or Myanmar can force China to look at it from their different perspectives.

Agreed. No one is trying to twist China govts. position here, it is not even seriously considered. China is too large a country and a military power.

SOME China-watchers in Bangladesh were quite disappointed when China took Myanmar's side during the Rohingya crisis, which is seen as Chinese about-face from a humanitarian crisis due to choosing a narrow economic interest (gas pipeline from Myanmar). That is the root of the misgivings in Bangladeshi circles - the expectation was that China (although neutral) could at least broker a peace accord and influence the Myanmarese Tatmadaw to take back the two million Myanmarese Rohingya who are being sheltered, housed and fed by the Bangladeshi govt.

Essentially this means that the Chinese govt. condones ethnic cleansing or actively encourages it, by supporting its trade partner the Tatmadaw.

One cannot explain this in any other manner. So all the work the Chinese govt. does in 'helping' in Asian and African countries is for naught because those will be seen as narrow self-serving activities.

Any claim of moral leadership by the Chinese govt. will thus ring rather hollow from now on. Anti-Chinese entities such as Neocons and capitalist entities now have another reason to sully China's development activities globally.

This actually may not be reality - but perception is 90% reality.

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL @ analogy with Xinjiang and Tibet as China has not declared them non citizens and expelled the bulk of them to another country.

Of cause they are not exactly the same, but it doesn't mean they can not be used as pretextes against China in UN.

Whole world now knows you are a selfish country

Tell me who isn't, Bangladesh?

 

[UKBengali]

Our people's mindset has been fixed by the extraordinary claim by Hasina Bibi that BD to become a developed country by 2041. People believe it without not understanding the essence of development. If BD is certain to reach that goal in 2041, India is already developed on the same scale with its 2 trillion dollar economy.

I think BD lacks the technology, know-how, and experience to reach developed status. However, I believe this shortfall can be made up by the FDI infusion within a limit. FDI comes with technology, experience as well as a readymade market.

Even things happen that way, it is the inefficient BD govt administration that will cause BD to remain stunted for a few centuries at least. A few infrastructure development works here and there with foreign participation or a few pockets of industries do not symbolize any real development.

This thing has been happening since 1947 without giving any tangible results so far. A systematic big-scale local participation and an efficient govt administration are what the country needs to develop gradually.

You call spending 17 billion US dollars this year on infrastructure "a few projects" ?
You think it is nothing that Walton has started exporting TVs to Germany now? - first batch is 3500 TVs but the German importer wants 100,000 sets.
You call the 97% domination of the drug industry by BD companies not significant? Drugs exports have crossed the 100 million US dollar mark now(growing 15% a year) and even the US FDA has given clearance to BD drug imports to USA. Indians are now worried about stiff competition from BD.

Yes BD will not be a developed country in 2041 but it is making good progress in a lot of areas. The glass should be looked as half-full than half-empty.

Tell me who isn't, Bangladesh?

Good, then give up this non-inteference crap as all you care about is the access to Bay of Bengal.

 

[beijingwalker]

Good, then give up this non-inteference crap as all you care about is the access to Bay of Bengal.

That's a massive understatement, we care about access to every corner in the world, Bay of Bengal is just a small cog, when every country is taking of their own interests, no one can make China not to, we Chinese are pretty happy that our government taking care of our own interest, we support the government, not foreigners.

 

[UKBengali]

That's a massive understatement, we care about access to every corner in the world, Bay of Bengal is just a small cog, when every country is taking of their own interests, no one can make China not to, we Chinese are pretty happy that our government taking care of our own interest, we support the government, not foreigners.

Then do not be surprised if BD one day allows USN to host a CBG on it's territory. US has been wanting a base in BD for over a decade now and BD has so far refused.

 

[beijingwalker]

Then do not be surprised if BD one day allows USN to host a CBG on it's territory. US has been wanting a base in BD for over a decade now and BD has so far refused.

It's your domestic decision, China has many US military bases all around China, couple of more in BD won't change anything for us, why should we care.

 

[UKBengali]

It's your domestic decision, China has many US military based all around China, couple of more in BD won't change anything for us, why should we care.

You will cry like girls and say "Asia for Asians" like usual.

US CBG in BD will directly threaten your Myanmar access to Bay of Bengal.