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Child sex abuse in Pakistan’s religious schools is endemic

Just curious, what are your views on incest? Specifically between daughter and father or mother and son? Two consenting adults. Is it less abhorrent than pedophilia?

Incest, even between consenting adults, is wrong.
For me, it falls in the same category as pedophilia, a category where I place types of relations between persons that can never happen.
Both should be forbidden by law.
But pedophilia should have a heavier punishment because there a child is the victim.

If the article really wants to help, be a little more specific. Targeting whole of Pakistan sounds like an article written to please stinking Hindus from across the border.

Name the madrassas, i am sure they know if they talked to witnesses and cause their closures.

The article archived nothing but malign Pakistan and madrassas which, believe it or not, are doing a fantastic job. I learnt Holy Quran in one and i am not molested.

Not everything is done to target Pakistan and to please Hindus from across the border.
Like I said, I do not think that the journalists from this article have any bad intentions against Pakistan, only good intentions for the children.
And even if Western journalists would write something about Pakistan or India, they do not do it to please the other side, but they do it to please their own side.
Pakistan and India are not that important.

And, besides, what would happen if the madrassas are named?
The villagers asked the victims to forgive the mullah, so the victims will not get any support from the villagers.
The police arrested one mullah and he is in jail, but others are protesting saying that it is a conspiracy against Pakistan, just like you said. The other mullahs are not arrested.

Also, you talk about 'stinking Hindus'. Did you come up with that all on your own, or did you learn that in a madrassa? Because if so, you might not be molested by mullahs, but you sure are indoctrinated into hating non-Muslims.
 
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@StormBreaker

Ok. Thank you for elaborating.

I cannot deny that there are journalists that spread propaganda.

However, I honestly do not think that the journalists from this article are doing that.

Believe it or not, but in the West, people can do awful things, for which they might not be condemned, but when it comes to children, most people will condemn them or go even further.

In my city in the Netherlands, when people know that there is pedophile living somewhere, they go to his house and throw stones through the window. I am not saying that it is the right thing to do, but I am sure not going to stop them when I would see them do it.

So, I do think that the journalists from this article (3 out of the 4 are Pakistani) really want to make this problem known in order to make the people and politicians aware of the problem, hoping that they will do something about it.

You see, journalists do not only write about madrassas.

For example, do you know about the article in the Boston Globe where they wrote about sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church in Boston?
These were Western journalists writing about a problem among Christians in a Western country.
This article eventually led to many people, who were victims, coming forward to tell their story, not only in Boston, or the United States, but in the whole world and thereby also in the Netherlands.
This also led the Dutch government (and other governments) as well as the Catholic Church to take action regarding this issue.

So, writing these stories might help.
It might initiate action from the people and the government.

And that is what I really think what the journalists were trying to achieve with writing this article.
In the environment of Pakistan, people don’t care about the general problems other face, “Apka khao apna pakao, doosra gaya bhaar mein”, so in Pakistan, these articles mostly don’t work, either if these articles are about tax evasion or salary cut, or rape or any social issue.

The liberal mafia of Pakistan cleverly exploits this fact and use social media to spread news of such kind, while knowing that wouldn’t be any actual public backlash (people protesting in masses), rather in Pakistan, only danda works or Army or Government or the Mulla mafia like Khadim rizvi.

So instead, If they are so keen to raise these articles, they should instead organize mass protests.

These articles overall destroy the image of Pakistan as readers are not only local, and those who are local, are already aware of such issues

It is not endemic, this is a blatant lie. Child abuse in India and US is endemic.

It happens in Pakistan, but is not the norm.

Everything in Pakistan gets blown up out of proportion by the West.

Shame on OP.
Other day, I saw this sick video, running around on twitter, a fucking indian old man, Lying upside down, someone entered the room from the door, as if they knew that this will be a crime scene, the video started from there, The old man then helped himself up, zipped his pant, and this is where the furious part starts, a small innocent 1.5-2 year old girl was lying there, watching the camera innocently, that man in hurries, dressed the small girl up.

The video got deleted soon but it just makes me mad about knowing such fucking bastards residing in this world, Monsters, Even worse...
 
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Hopefully the perpetrators are hanged swiftly.

Ameen. We should be enforcing fiqh punishments, it will dissuade all.

The journalists asked the victims to tell their story, witnesses to tell their account of what had happened and the police which also said that they found (in one case) the DNA of the culprit on the victim.
How can that not be the real facts and the real story?



The purpose of the article is to report the abuse in the religious schools.

If an article would report about corruption in the Pakistani government, would you then also say: 'Corruption happens in Pakistan, but the problem is not related to Pakistan?'
Or something like: 'It happens all around the world' (implying that you do not have to talk or do something about it).



How can people from such a class then still become mullahs?



Are you saying that because homosexuality is common, then pedophilia is not a problem?
You do know that homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same?



Again, these people become mullahs. These are the people that other people listen to for their religious education. Think about that.



Because physical relations between two people that are adults is not the same as physical relations between an adult and a child, since that is pedophilia. It is not the same.



How can I confirm this?
AP News is one of the few media outlets that is willing to write about this.

It is sad that many members on PDF go in denial mode.
Trying to make it sound that the rape of children is normal or not a real problem.
Trying to defend the mullahs.

Maybe PDF should change its name into MDF: Mullah Defence Forum.

Let us not use Mullah as an insult, please. Also let us not paint all madarris in this way. These are isolsted cases.

Every society will have these evil people, Islam is very frank about it. That is why strict punishments are needed to scare these people into submission.

The problem with Pakistan is that the government has very little writ, and what little writ it has is eroded by liberals and ngos who dont want death penalties in Pakistan.
 
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It is not endemic, this is a blatant lie. Child abuse in India and US is endemic.

It happens in Pakistan, but is not the norm.

Everything in Pakistan gets blown up out of proportion by the West.

Shame on OP.
Exactly, people can be quite selective sometimes, especially when it come to targeted country like Pakistan and China
Example will be a false flagger Indian posting a news of 11 child sex abuses per day in Pakistan
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/11-c...reported-in-pakistan-every-day-report.562729/
However 109 cases of child sexual abuses per day in India went unnoticed
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...bused-every-day-india-2018-1636160-2020-01-12
 
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In the environment of Pakistan, people don’t care about the general problems other face, “Apka khao apna pakao, doosra gaya bhaar mein”, so in Pakistan, these articles mostly don’t work, either if these articles are about tax evasion or salary cut, or rape or any social issue.

The liberal mafia of Pakistan cleverly exploits this fact and use social media to spread news of such kind, while knowing that wouldn’t be any actual public backlash (people protesting in masses), rather in Pakistan, only danda works or Army or Government or the Mulla mafia like Khadim rizvi.

So instead, If they are so keen to raise these articles, they should instead organize mass protests.

These articles overall destroy the image of Pakistan as readers are not only local, and those who are local, are already aware of such issues

Ok. I understand.
This type of strategy does work in the Netherlands though.
However, I believe you when you say that it does not work in Pakistan.
And, for me at least, this article does not change the image of Pakistan.

It is not endemic, this is a blatant lie. Child abuse in India and US is endemic.

It happens in Pakistan, but is not the norm.

Everything in Pakistan gets blown up out of proportion by the West.

Shame on OP.

You do not want Pakistan to targeted, but the same thing you say will also be said by Indians and Americans.
Can it not be endemic in Pakistan, India and the United States?
I also have other non AP, non Western sources to back up the claims made in the original post:

Why are we silent about the sexual abuse at madrassas? (October 2019)
https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/89873/why-are-we-silent-about-the-sexual-abuse-at-madrassas/

Madrassas Are The Hubs of Child Abuse – About Time We Acted Against Them (December 2019)
https://nayadaur.tv/2019/12/madrassas-are-hubs-of-child-abuse-about-time-we-acted-against-them/

Let us not use Mullah as an insult, please. Also let us not paint all madarris in this way. These are isolsted cases.

Every society will have these evil people, Islam is very frank about it. That is why strict punishments are needed to scare these people into submission.

The problem with Pakistan is that the government has very little writ, and what little writ it has is eroded by liberals and ngos who dont want death penalties in Pakistan.

Ok. I agree. Death penalties are needed.
Believe it or not, but if Pakistan can bring justice to the victims, then this will improve the image of Pakistan.
What I am trying to say with this is, that even though you might see this article as an attack on Pakistan, which I do not think it is, I see it a chance for Pakistan.
A chance to show what justice is.
 
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Child sex abuse in Pakistan’s religious schools is endemic

Kathy Gannon, Zarar Khan, Asim Tanvir and Riaz Khan

Yesterday

PAKPATTAN, Pakistan (AP) — Muhimman proudly writes his name slowly, carefully, one letter at a time, grinning broadly as he finishes. He’s just 11 years old and was a good student who had dreams of being a doctor.

School frightens him now. Earlier this year, a cleric at the religious school he faithfully attended in the southern Punjab town of Pakpattan took him into a washroom and tried to rape him. Muhimman’s aunt, Shazia, who wanted only her first name used, said she believes the abuse of young children is endemic in Pakistan’s religious schools. She said she has known the cleric, Moeed Shah, since she was a little girl and describes him as an habitual abuser who used to ask little girls to pull up their shirts.

“He has done wrong with boys and also with two or three girls,” Shazia said, recalling one girl the cleric brutalized so badly he broke her back.

An investigation by The Associated Press found dozens of police reports, known here as First Information Reports, alleging sexual harassment, rape and physical abuse by Islamic clerics teaching in madrassas or religious schools throughout Pakistan, where many of the country’s poorest study. The AP also documented cases of abuse through interviews with law enforcement officials, abuse victims and their parents. The alleged victims who spoke for this story did so with the understanding only their first names would be used.

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Pakistani student Muhimman, 11, who was allegedly abused by a cleric, sits with his parents in the south Punjab town of Pakpattan, Pakistan.

There are more than 22,000 registered madrassas in Pakistan, teaching more than 2 million children. But there are many more religious schools that are unregistered. They are typically started by a local cleric in a poor neighborhood, attracting students with a promise of a meal and free lodging. There is no central body of clerics that governs madrassas. Nor is there a central authority that can investigate or respond to allegations of abuse by clerics, unlike the Catholic Church, which has a clear hierarchy topped by the Vatican.

The government of Prime Minister Imran Khan has promised to modernize the curriculum and make the madrassas more accountable, but there is little oversight.

Police say the problem of sexual abuse of children by clerics is pervasive and the scores of police reports they have received are just the tip of the iceberg. Yet despite the dozens of reports, none have resulted in the conviction of a cleric. Religious clerics are a powerful group in Pakistan and they close ranks when allegations of abuse are brought against one of them. They have been able to hide the widespread abuse by accusing victims of blasphemy or defamation of Islam.

Families in Pakistan are often coerced into “forgiving” clerics, said Deputy Police Superintendent Sadiq Baloch, speaking in his office in the country’s northwest, toward the border with Afghanistan.

Overcome by shame and fear that the stigma of being sexually abused will follow a child into adulthood, families choose instead to drop the charges, he said. Most often, when a family forgives the cleric the investigation ends because the charges are dropped.

“It is the hypocrisy of some of these mullahs, who wear the long beard and take on the cloak of piety only to do these horrible acts behind closed doors, while openly they criticize those who are clean shaven, who are liberal and open minded,” Baloch said. “In our society so many of these men, who say they are religious, are involved in these immoral activities.”

‘I WANT THIS MULLAH HANGED’

Police officials say they have no idea how many children are abused by religious clerics in Pakistan. The officials said clerics often target young boys who have not yet reached puberty in part because of the restrictive nature of Pakistan’s still mostly conservative society, where male interaction with girls and women is unacceptable. The clerics for the most part had access to and trust with boys, who are less likely to report a sexual assault.

Eight-year-old Yaous from Pakistan’s remote northern Kohistan region is one of those boys.

Yaous’ father was a poor laborer who had no education and spoke only the local language of his area, yet he wanted to educate his son. He had heard of a religious school in Mansehra, several hundred kilometers (miles) south of his village, where other boys from the area had gone. Too poor to even own a phone, his father went for months without speaking to his son.

Yaous is small for his eight years. His features are slight. In an interview with the AP, with his uncle interpreting, Yaous’ tiny body shivered as he told of his ordeal.

It was near the end of December last year — a holiday at the madrassa. Most of the students had left. Only Yaous and a handful of students had stayed behind. His village was hours away, and the cost of transportation home was too much for his parents.

The other students had gone to wash their clothes and Yaous said he was alone inside the mosque with Qari Shamsuddin, the cleric. The sexual assault was unexpected and brutal. The boy said Shamsuddin grabbed his hand, dragged him into a room and locked the door.

“It was so cold. I didn’t understand why he was taking my warm clothes off,” Yaous said, his voice was barely a whisper.

As Yaous remembered what happened, he buried his head deeper into his jacket. The cleric grabbed a stick, he said. It was small, maybe about 12 inches. The first few sharp slaps stung.

“The pain made me scream and cry, but he wouldn’t stop,” Yaous said. The boy was held prisoner for two days, raped repeatedly until he was so sick the cleric feared he would die and took him to the hospital.

At the hospital, Dr. Faisal Manan Salarzai said Yaous screamed each time he tried to approach him. Yaous was so small and frail looking, Salarzai called him the “baby.”

“The baby was having a lot of bruises on his body — on his head, on his chest, on his legs, so many bruises on other parts of his body,” Salarzai said.

Suspicious, Salarzai ordered Yaous moved to the isolation ward where he examined him, suspecting he had been sexually assaulted. The examination revealed brutal and repetitive assaults.

But Solarzai said Yaous’ uncle refused to believe his nephew was sexually assaulted, instead he said the boy had fallen down. “He said the uncle finally said: ‘If news spreads in our area that he has been sexually assaulted it will be very difficult for him to survive in our area.’”

“He was not willing to talk about it or even think that he was sexually assaulted,” said Solarzai. But the evidence was overwhelming and the doctor contacted the police.

The cleric was arrested and is now in jail. Police have matched his DNA samples to those found on Yaous. But despite the arrest, fellow clerics and worshippers at the Madrassah-e-Taleem-ul-Quran mosque located in a remote region of northwest Pakistan dispute the charges. They say Shamsuddin is innocent, the victim of anti-Islamic elements in the country. The clerics and worshippers also say the accusation is part of a conspiracy to discredit Pakistan’s religious leaders and challenge the supremacy of Islam, a rallying cry often used by right-wing religious clerics seeking to enrage mobs to assert their power.

Yaous’ father, Abdul Qayyum, said he was ashamed he had not spoken to his son in more than three months before the attack happened.

“I want this mullah hanged. Nothing else will do,” Qayyum said.

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Mohammad Iqbal talks to her daughter Misbah, center, who was allegedly abused by her religious teacher in Leiyah, Pakistan.

‘FORGIVE ME’

Young boys are not the only victims of sexual abuse by religious clerics. Many young girls like Misbah, who is from a deeply conservative south Punjab village of Basti Qasi, have also been targeted by religious leaders.

Her father, Mohammad Iqbal, isn’t exactly sure how old Misbah is. He thinks she is 11 because in rural Pakistan many births are not registered or are registered much later, and it is just a guess when children are born. They share their small cinderblock structures with several goats and an extended family made up it seems of mostly children who play tag and run around the dirt compound. Misbah, who struggled for words, said she was raped in the mosque next door, where she had been studying the Quran for three years.

The assault happened one morning after she stayed behind to sweep the mosque. The other children had been sent home and the cleric, someone she trusted, asked Misbah to help.

“I had just began to clean when he slammed shut the mosque door,” she said in her native Saraiki language. “I didn’t know why and then he suddenly grabbed me and pulled me into a nearby room. I was screaming and shouting and crying. She couldn’t say how long the assault went on. All she could remember was screaming for her father to help her but he wouldn’t stop, he wouldn’t stop, she repeated.

It was her uncle, Mohammed Tanvir, who rescued her. He had been on his way to college but stopped at the mosque to use the washroom. He noticed a pair of child’s shoes outside the door.

“Then I heard screaming from inside, she was screaming for her father,” Tanvir said. He smashed the door down saw his niece sprawled and naked on the floor. “It looked as if she had fainted,” he said. Her blood-stained pants were in a corner. The cleric knelt at his feet.

“‘Forgive me’ he kept saying to me,’” Tanvir recalled. The cleric was arrested but freed on bail.

‘SUCH A BEAST SHOULD NOT NE SPARED’

In the wake of the attempted rape of Muhimman, the young boy who had proudly showed his writing skills, his aunt said there has been a concerted attempt to silence the family.

“The village people say these are our spiritual leaders and the imams of our religious places, and refuse to kick him out,” Shazia said

After the attack on her nephew, she said, the villagers came to their home and pleaded with them to forgive the cleric, Moeed Shah, who had fled the area.

“They all came to our home and they know we are poor and he is an imam and they said we should forgive him but we won’t,” Shazia said. She said her father, Muhimman’s grandfather, refused.

Shah has yet to be arrested, even though the assault was filmed by several village boys who broke down the door to the washroom and frightened Shah away as he tired to rape Muhimman.

Police say they are investigating and a charge has been filed, but Shah is a fugitive. Some of the neighbors near the mosque said police are not searching vigorously for him. They seemed angry but also resigned to the fact that he would not be jailed.

Muhimman’s aunt was inconsolable.

“Such a beast should not be spared at all,” Shazia said.

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@El Sidd
 
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Topic is about Muslim madrasas.

So of course some Muslims like to bring in Christian priests and Hindu temples into it.

:lol:

Those (spanning decades) grooming gangs in UK are "South Asian" or even just "Asian" bro....let us all be super understanding and "civil" for that. But when they give the hypocrite hate-filled chorus on other matters, you must give them their space to do that without question too.

Actually they do not understand that the predictable cringey selective camouflaging with larger group...just wakes up more people to their antics in the end and actually creates more investigation into why these people have such a hypocrisy....especially when it created the issue in first place (justification of sheltering and tolerating of their worst of bad apples while they all knew what was going on).

They are getting their just desserts over time on it from everyone else, rest assured on that (part of reason they seek safe spaces like this out increasingly and vent frustrations with all kind of language and attitude here).

Not everything gets neatly packed up and sorted out with niceties like Dhaka ceremony (after what their "not to be questioned" "best" did there). That is very upstream "understanding" now. Many of them subconsciously know that but wont admit it (here at least). People have run out of patience with this lot refusal to introspect and carry on like nothing happened and then do their "disguise" game with larger crowds they can disperse blame with. Yeah no.
 
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Its a crime and death penalty must be awarded whether it happens in schools, homes, or religious schools.

If somehow anyone tries to hide these crimes again whether in schools, homes, or religious schools - hang them.
 
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Example will be a false flagger Indian posting a news of 11 child sex abuses per day in Pakistan
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/11-c...reported-in-pakistan-every-day-report.562729/

It seems China and Pakistan are similarly misrepresented.

For example in the US, amount of child abuse and rape is absolutely staggering. It is severely under-reported by media to hide the extent of the crimes. Only minority perpetrators are reported, while most is white on white crime.

I even doubt the number of 11 per day, that does not make sense. Criminals in Pakistan are very scared of getting caught. They only engage in these crimes if they have worked out all the ways they can be protected. Hence why the poorest and esp homeless are vulnerable.

Remember someone can get killed for even catcalling someone's sister or touching her hand. They know they will be killed before police even get there, if locals find them.

Reputation is another thing. Unfortunately some fear it will affect marriage credentials for their other kids, however this is the wrong concept. Islam actually opposes this completely.

We should be marrying abused and raped women too, othwrwise they won't have anyone to sustain them. In war-torn societies like Afghanistan and Kashmir, where occupiers use rape against civilians, Muslims will marry these women.
 
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Child sex abuse in Pakistan’s religious schools is endemic

Kathy Gannon, Zarar Khan, Asim Tanvir and Riaz Khan

Yesterday

PAKPATTAN, Pakistan (AP) — Muhimman proudly writes his name slowly, carefully, one letter at a time, grinning broadly as he finishes. He’s just 11 years old and was a good student who had dreams of being a doctor.

School frightens him now. Earlier this year, a cleric at the religious school he faithfully attended in the southern Punjab town of Pakpattan took him into a washroom and tried to rape him. Muhimman’s aunt, Shazia, who wanted only her first name used, said she believes the abuse of young children is endemic in Pakistan’s religious schools. She said she has known the cleric, Moeed Shah, since she was a little girl and describes him as an habitual abuser who used to ask little girls to pull up their shirts.

“He has done wrong with boys and also with two or three girls,” Shazia said, recalling one girl the cleric brutalized so badly he broke her back.

An investigation by The Associated Press found dozens of police reports, known here as First Information Reports, alleging sexual harassment, rape and physical abuse by Islamic clerics teaching in madrassas or religious schools throughout Pakistan, where many of the country’s poorest study. The AP also documented cases of abuse through interviews with law enforcement officials, abuse victims and their parents. The alleged victims who spoke for this story did so with the understanding only their first names would be used.

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Pakistani student Muhimman, 11, who was allegedly abused by a cleric, sits with his parents in the south Punjab town of Pakpattan, Pakistan.

There are more than 22,000 registered madrassas in Pakistan, teaching more than 2 million children. But there are many more religious schools that are unregistered. They are typically started by a local cleric in a poor neighborhood, attracting students with a promise of a meal and free lodging. There is no central body of clerics that governs madrassas. Nor is there a central authority that can investigate or respond to allegations of abuse by clerics, unlike the Catholic Church, which has a clear hierarchy topped by the Vatican.

The government of Prime Minister Imran Khan has promised to modernize the curriculum and make the madrassas more accountable, but there is little oversight.

Police say the problem of sexual abuse of children by clerics is pervasive and the scores of police reports they have received are just the tip of the iceberg. Yet despite the dozens of reports, none have resulted in the conviction of a cleric. Religious clerics are a powerful group in Pakistan and they close ranks when allegations of abuse are brought against one of them. They have been able to hide the widespread abuse by accusing victims of blasphemy or defamation of Islam.

Families in Pakistan are often coerced into “forgiving” clerics, said Deputy Police Superintendent Sadiq Baloch, speaking in his office in the country’s northwest, toward the border with Afghanistan.

Overcome by shame and fear that the stigma of being sexually abused will follow a child into adulthood, families choose instead to drop the charges, he said. Most often, when a family forgives the cleric the investigation ends because the charges are dropped.

“It is the hypocrisy of some of these mullahs, who wear the long beard and take on the cloak of piety only to do these horrible acts behind closed doors, while openly they criticize those who are clean shaven, who are liberal and open minded,” Baloch said. “In our society so many of these men, who say they are religious, are involved in these immoral activities.”

‘I WANT THIS MULLAH HANGED’

Police officials say they have no idea how many children are abused by religious clerics in Pakistan. The officials said clerics often target young boys who have not yet reached puberty in part because of the restrictive nature of Pakistan’s still mostly conservative society, where male interaction with girls and women is unacceptable. The clerics for the most part had access to and trust with boys, who are less likely to report a sexual assault.

Eight-year-old Yaous from Pakistan’s remote northern Kohistan region is one of those boys.

Yaous’ father was a poor laborer who had no education and spoke only the local language of his area, yet he wanted to educate his son. He had heard of a religious school in Mansehra, several hundred kilometers (miles) south of his village, where other boys from the area had gone. Too poor to even own a phone, his father went for months without speaking to his son.

Yaous is small for his eight years. His features are slight. In an interview with the AP, with his uncle interpreting, Yaous’ tiny body shivered as he told of his ordeal.

It was near the end of December last year — a holiday at the madrassa. Most of the students had left. Only Yaous and a handful of students had stayed behind. His village was hours away, and the cost of transportation home was too much for his parents.

The other students had gone to wash their clothes and Yaous said he was alone inside the mosque with Qari Shamsuddin, the cleric. The sexual assault was unexpected and brutal. The boy said Shamsuddin grabbed his hand, dragged him into a room and locked the door.

“It was so cold. I didn’t understand why he was taking my warm clothes off,” Yaous said, his voice was barely a whisper.

As Yaous remembered what happened, he buried his head deeper into his jacket. The cleric grabbed a stick, he said. It was small, maybe about 12 inches. The first few sharp slaps stung.

“The pain made me scream and cry, but he wouldn’t stop,” Yaous said. The boy was held prisoner for two days, raped repeatedly until he was so sick the cleric feared he would die and took him to the hospital.

At the hospital, Dr. Faisal Manan Salarzai said Yaous screamed each time he tried to approach him. Yaous was so small and frail looking, Salarzai called him the “baby.”

“The baby was having a lot of bruises on his body — on his head, on his chest, on his legs, so many bruises on other parts of his body,” Salarzai said.

Suspicious, Salarzai ordered Yaous moved to the isolation ward where he examined him, suspecting he had been sexually assaulted. The examination revealed brutal and repetitive assaults.

But Solarzai said Yaous’ uncle refused to believe his nephew was sexually assaulted, instead he said the boy had fallen down. “He said the uncle finally said: ‘If news spreads in our area that he has been sexually assaulted it will be very difficult for him to survive in our area.’”

“He was not willing to talk about it or even think that he was sexually assaulted,” said Solarzai. But the evidence was overwhelming and the doctor contacted the police.

The cleric was arrested and is now in jail. Police have matched his DNA samples to those found on Yaous. But despite the arrest, fellow clerics and worshippers at the Madrassah-e-Taleem-ul-Quran mosque located in a remote region of northwest Pakistan dispute the charges. They say Shamsuddin is innocent, the victim of anti-Islamic elements in the country. The clerics and worshippers also say the accusation is part of a conspiracy to discredit Pakistan’s religious leaders and challenge the supremacy of Islam, a rallying cry often used by right-wing religious clerics seeking to enrage mobs to assert their power.

Yaous’ father, Abdul Qayyum, said he was ashamed he had not spoken to his son in more than three months before the attack happened.

“I want this mullah hanged. Nothing else will do,” Qayyum said.

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Mohammad Iqbal talks to her daughter Misbah, center, who was allegedly abused by her religious teacher in Leiyah, Pakistan.

‘FORGIVE ME’

Young boys are not the only victims of sexual abuse by religious clerics. Many young girls like Misbah, who is from a deeply conservative south Punjab village of Basti Qasi, have also been targeted by religious leaders.

Her father, Mohammad Iqbal, isn’t exactly sure how old Misbah is. He thinks she is 11 because in rural Pakistan many births are not registered or are registered much later, and it is just a guess when children are born. They share their small cinderblock structures with several goats and an extended family made up it seems of mostly children who play tag and run around the dirt compound. Misbah, who struggled for words, said she was raped in the mosque next door, where she had been studying the Quran for three years.

The assault happened one morning after she stayed behind to sweep the mosque. The other children had been sent home and the cleric, someone she trusted, asked Misbah to help.

“I had just began to clean when he slammed shut the mosque door,” she said in her native Saraiki language. “I didn’t know why and then he suddenly grabbed me and pulled me into a nearby room. I was screaming and shouting and crying. She couldn’t say how long the assault went on. All she could remember was screaming for her father to help her but he wouldn’t stop, he wouldn’t stop, she repeated.

It was her uncle, Mohammed Tanvir, who rescued her. He had been on his way to college but stopped at the mosque to use the washroom. He noticed a pair of child’s shoes outside the door.

“Then I heard screaming from inside, she was screaming for her father,” Tanvir said. He smashed the door down saw his niece sprawled and naked on the floor. “It looked as if she had fainted,” he said. Her blood-stained pants were in a corner. The cleric knelt at his feet.

“‘Forgive me’ he kept saying to me,’” Tanvir recalled. The cleric was arrested but freed on bail.

‘SUCH A BEAST SHOULD NOT NE SPARED’

In the wake of the attempted rape of Muhimman, the young boy who had proudly showed his writing skills, his aunt said there has been a concerted attempt to silence the family.

“The village people say these are our spiritual leaders and the imams of our religious places, and refuse to kick him out,” Shazia said

After the attack on her nephew, she said, the villagers came to their home and pleaded with them to forgive the cleric, Moeed Shah, who had fled the area.

“They all came to our home and they know we are poor and he is an imam and they said we should forgive him but we won’t,” Shazia said. She said her father, Muhimman’s grandfather, refused.

Shah has yet to be arrested, even though the assault was filmed by several village boys who broke down the door to the washroom and frightened Shah away as he tired to rape Muhimman.

Police say they are investigating and a charge has been filed, but Shah is a fugitive. Some of the neighbors near the mosque said police are not searching vigorously for him. They seemed angry but also resigned to the fact that he would not be jailed.

Muhimman’s aunt was inconsolable.

“Such a beast should not be spared at all,” Shazia said.

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No surprise child sex / child abuse is rampant in pakistan in kpk its cultural they have a saying women are for producing offsprings whereas boys are for pleasure , than punjab well we all have heard about tons of stories from kasur and others from different areas , religous lot are famous for playing it safe they get married to under age kids in order to fullfil their desires .

Bus Addas , train stations have rest houses where kids "young boys" are used for the pleasure of truck drivers its a disgusting culture and its every where in the society
 
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Child sex abuse in Pakistan’s religious schools is endemic

Kathy Gannon, Zarar Khan, Asim Tanvir and Riaz Khan

Yesterday

PAKPATTAN, Pakistan (AP) — Muhimman proudly writes his name slowly, carefully, one letter at a time, grinning broadly as he finishes. He’s just 11 years old and was a good student who had dreams of being a doctor.

School frightens him now. Earlier this year, a cleric at the religious school he faithfully attended in the southern Punjab town of Pakpattan took him into a washroom and tried to rape him. Muhimman’s aunt, Shazia, who wanted only her first name used, said she believes the abuse of young children is endemic in Pakistan’s religious schools. She said she has known the cleric, Moeed Shah, since she was a little girl and describes him as an habitual abuser who used to ask little girls to pull up their shirts.

“He has done wrong with boys and also with two or three girls,” Shazia said, recalling one girl the cleric brutalized so badly he broke her back.

An investigation by The Associated Press found dozens of police reports, known here as First Information Reports, alleging sexual harassment, rape and physical abuse by Islamic clerics teaching in madrassas or religious schools throughout Pakistan, where many of the country’s poorest study. The AP also documented cases of abuse through interviews with law enforcement officials, abuse victims and their parents. The alleged victims who spoke for this story did so with the understanding only their first names would be used.

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Pakistani student Muhimman, 11, who was allegedly abused by a cleric, sits with his parents in the south Punjab town of Pakpattan, Pakistan.

There are more than 22,000 registered madrassas in Pakistan, teaching more than 2 million children. But there are many more religious schools that are unregistered. They are typically started by a local cleric in a poor neighborhood, attracting students with a promise of a meal and free lodging. There is no central body of clerics that governs madrassas. Nor is there a central authority that can investigate or respond to allegations of abuse by clerics, unlike the Catholic Church, which has a clear hierarchy topped by the Vatican.

The government of Prime Minister Imran Khan has promised to modernize the curriculum and make the madrassas more accountable, but there is little oversight.

Police say the problem of sexual abuse of children by clerics is pervasive and the scores of police reports they have received are just the tip of the iceberg. Yet despite the dozens of reports, none have resulted in the conviction of a cleric. Religious clerics are a powerful group in Pakistan and they close ranks when allegations of abuse are brought against one of them. They have been able to hide the widespread abuse by accusing victims of blasphemy or defamation of Islam.

Families in Pakistan are often coerced into “forgiving” clerics, said Deputy Police Superintendent Sadiq Baloch, speaking in his office in the country’s northwest, toward the border with Afghanistan.

Overcome by shame and fear that the stigma of being sexually abused will follow a child into adulthood, families choose instead to drop the charges, he said. Most often, when a family forgives the cleric the investigation ends because the charges are dropped.

“It is the hypocrisy of some of these mullahs, who wear the long beard and take on the cloak of piety only to do these horrible acts behind closed doors, while openly they criticize those who are clean shaven, who are liberal and open minded,” Baloch said. “In our society so many of these men, who say they are religious, are involved in these immoral activities.”

‘I WANT THIS MULLAH HANGED’

Police officials say they have no idea how many children are abused by religious clerics in Pakistan. The officials said clerics often target young boys who have not yet reached puberty in part because of the restrictive nature of Pakistan’s still mostly conservative society, where male interaction with girls and women is unacceptable. The clerics for the most part had access to and trust with boys, who are less likely to report a sexual assault.

Eight-year-old Yaous from Pakistan’s remote northern Kohistan region is one of those boys.

Yaous’ father was a poor laborer who had no education and spoke only the local language of his area, yet he wanted to educate his son. He had heard of a religious school in Mansehra, several hundred kilometers (miles) south of his village, where other boys from the area had gone. Too poor to even own a phone, his father went for months without speaking to his son.

Yaous is small for his eight years. His features are slight. In an interview with the AP, with his uncle interpreting, Yaous’ tiny body shivered as he told of his ordeal.

It was near the end of December last year — a holiday at the madrassa. Most of the students had left. Only Yaous and a handful of students had stayed behind. His village was hours away, and the cost of transportation home was too much for his parents.

The other students had gone to wash their clothes and Yaous said he was alone inside the mosque with Qari Shamsuddin, the cleric. The sexual assault was unexpected and brutal. The boy said Shamsuddin grabbed his hand, dragged him into a room and locked the door.

“It was so cold. I didn’t understand why he was taking my warm clothes off,” Yaous said, his voice was barely a whisper.

As Yaous remembered what happened, he buried his head deeper into his jacket. The cleric grabbed a stick, he said. It was small, maybe about 12 inches. The first few sharp slaps stung.

“The pain made me scream and cry, but he wouldn’t stop,” Yaous said. The boy was held prisoner for two days, raped repeatedly until he was so sick the cleric feared he would die and took him to the hospital.

At the hospital, Dr. Faisal Manan Salarzai said Yaous screamed each time he tried to approach him. Yaous was so small and frail looking, Salarzai called him the “baby.”

“The baby was having a lot of bruises on his body — on his head, on his chest, on his legs, so many bruises on other parts of his body,” Salarzai said.

Suspicious, Salarzai ordered Yaous moved to the isolation ward where he examined him, suspecting he had been sexually assaulted. The examination revealed brutal and repetitive assaults.

But Solarzai said Yaous’ uncle refused to believe his nephew was sexually assaulted, instead he said the boy had fallen down. “He said the uncle finally said: ‘If news spreads in our area that he has been sexually assaulted it will be very difficult for him to survive in our area.’”

“He was not willing to talk about it or even think that he was sexually assaulted,” said Solarzai. But the evidence was overwhelming and the doctor contacted the police.

The cleric was arrested and is now in jail. Police have matched his DNA samples to those found on Yaous. But despite the arrest, fellow clerics and worshippers at the Madrassah-e-Taleem-ul-Quran mosque located in a remote region of northwest Pakistan dispute the charges. They say Shamsuddin is innocent, the victim of anti-Islamic elements in the country. The clerics and worshippers also say the accusation is part of a conspiracy to discredit Pakistan’s religious leaders and challenge the supremacy of Islam, a rallying cry often used by right-wing religious clerics seeking to enrage mobs to assert their power.

Yaous’ father, Abdul Qayyum, said he was ashamed he had not spoken to his son in more than three months before the attack happened.

“I want this mullah hanged. Nothing else will do,” Qayyum said.

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Mohammad Iqbal talks to her daughter Misbah, center, who was allegedly abused by her religious teacher in Leiyah, Pakistan.

‘FORGIVE ME’

Young boys are not the only victims of sexual abuse by religious clerics. Many young girls like Misbah, who is from a deeply conservative south Punjab village of Basti Qasi, have also been targeted by religious leaders.

Her father, Mohammad Iqbal, isn’t exactly sure how old Misbah is. He thinks she is 11 because in rural Pakistan many births are not registered or are registered much later, and it is just a guess when children are born. They share their small cinderblock structures with several goats and an extended family made up it seems of mostly children who play tag and run around the dirt compound. Misbah, who struggled for words, said she was raped in the mosque next door, where she had been studying the Quran for three years.

The assault happened one morning after she stayed behind to sweep the mosque. The other children had been sent home and the cleric, someone she trusted, asked Misbah to help.

“I had just began to clean when he slammed shut the mosque door,” she said in her native Saraiki language. “I didn’t know why and then he suddenly grabbed me and pulled me into a nearby room. I was screaming and shouting and crying. She couldn’t say how long the assault went on. All she could remember was screaming for her father to help her but he wouldn’t stop, he wouldn’t stop, she repeated.

It was her uncle, Mohammed Tanvir, who rescued her. He had been on his way to college but stopped at the mosque to use the washroom. He noticed a pair of child’s shoes outside the door.

“Then I heard screaming from inside, she was screaming for her father,” Tanvir said. He smashed the door down saw his niece sprawled and naked on the floor. “It looked as if she had fainted,” he said. Her blood-stained pants were in a corner. The cleric knelt at his feet.

“‘Forgive me’ he kept saying to me,’” Tanvir recalled. The cleric was arrested but freed on bail.

‘SUCH A BEAST SHOULD NOT NE SPARED’

In the wake of the attempted rape of Muhimman, the young boy who had proudly showed his writing skills, his aunt said there has been a concerted attempt to silence the family.

“The village people say these are our spiritual leaders and the imams of our religious places, and refuse to kick him out,” Shazia said

After the attack on her nephew, she said, the villagers came to their home and pleaded with them to forgive the cleric, Moeed Shah, who had fled the area.

“They all came to our home and they know we are poor and he is an imam and they said we should forgive him but we won’t,” Shazia said. She said her father, Muhimman’s grandfather, refused.

Shah has yet to be arrested, even though the assault was filmed by several village boys who broke down the door to the washroom and frightened Shah away as he tired to rape Muhimman.

Police say they are investigating and a charge has been filed, but Shah is a fugitive. Some of the neighbors near the mosque said police are not searching vigorously for him. They seemed angry but also resigned to the fact that he would not be jailed.

Muhimman’s aunt was inconsolable.

“Such a beast should not be spared at all,” Shazia said.

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I am taught a 3 different madrasasas of different school of thoughts. No one tried this thing with me. I am not ugly.
But yes, this happens all over the world. Madrasas are no exception. While I was ready your post, I was thinking that this post is too narrow. I live in an advanced country of west, and I can have a child of 8 years, if I can pay for it, at my door steps. I can see child ****, if I want to. I read many times about child abuses in mandirs, churchs, and always considered this to be a general problem.
But yeah, shit happens.
 
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You do not want Pakistan to targeted, but the same thing you say will also be said by Indians and Americans.
Can it not be endemic in Pakistan, India and the United States?
I also have other non AP, non Western sources to back up the claims made in the original post:

Why are we silent about the sexual abuse at madrassas? (October 2019)
https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/89873/why-are-we-silent-about-the-sexual-abuse-at-madrassas/

Madrassas Are The Hubs of Child Abuse – About Time We Acted Against Them (December 2019)
https://nayadaur.tv/2019/12/madrassas-are-hubs-of-child-abuse-about-time-we-acted-against-them/

I was speaking from just number of cases alone. You cannot even compare Pakistan to India or US, but media makes it seem like it is a Pakistani and Muslim problem, it is not.

Evil human beings are everywhwre, but certain societies are more lenient with it. Pakistan is not among them.

Quoting liberal foreign funded mouth pieces doesn't prove anything.

You are attacking our culture and our faith. Madarris are not how you portray them, they are a safety net for refugees and the poor. Pakistan government is working to bring secular subjects to them and provide those children opportunities which they otherwise would not have.

Evil people abusing positions of power are the issues, not madarris.
 
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