Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[fatman17]

Sir Fatman what PAF gonna do with french antiship missles ?r they gonna retire or integrated with JF 17s ?

The seaking helos will fire those

 

[fatman17]

What happens to the Exocets? Are JF-17s mated for that or not needed, since i believe C802, C705 and AKG400 are superior in every aspect?

Seaking helos will fire them

 

[princefaisal]

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Can this Mirage Nose accommodate the KLJ7 radar in it.

 

[IrbiS]

Can this Mirage Nose accommodate the KLJ7 radar in it.

Not needed in 1st place

 

[princefaisal]

Raad is for Mirage aircraft while C705KD missile with 170 km range is dedicated for JF-17.

 

[ice_man]

@fatman17 Do we have any plans to change our tactical strike platform the Mirage III/V anytime soon? Even though this platform has served Pakistan really well.

However, it is high time that they should eventually be retired and replaced.

@MastanKhan I am sure he would agree that we should have had at least an order in place for a new platform YESTERDAY. we are already late.

 

[umair86]

Mirages will soldier on for another decade or so

 

[araz]

Mirages will soldier on for another decade or so

Nearly all M3/5s will be retired by 2018--20. The airframes have lived out their lives and scavanging from other planes is being used to keep the fleet air worthy. This cant go on for long.
Similarly for the poster who asked about KLJ7 in M3 nose cone you cannot justify the expense on the above basis. There are many other things one needs to consider like engine power the capacity of the on board computers the wiring for the plane. You cant just shove a radar into a nose cone and expect it to work. Their would be a lot of work required and the money and the justification is just not there.

 

[ice_man]

Nearly all M3/5s will be retired by 2018--20. The airframes have lived out their lives and scavanging from other planes is being used to keep the fleet air worthy. This cant go on for long.
Similarly for the poster who asked about KLJ7 in M3 nose cone you cannot justify the expense on the above basis. There are many other things one needs to consider like engine power the capacity of the on board computers the wiring for the plane. You cant just shove a radar into a nose cone and expect it to work. Their would be a lot of work required and the money and the justification is just not there.

but if we wish to induct a new platform in let's say 2020 shouldn't we be placing orders like yesterday?

JF-17 is definitely not going to fill the role of a tactical strike fighter.

 

[araz]

but if we wish to induct a new platform in let's say 2020 shouldn't we be placing orders like yesterday?

JF-17 is definitely not going to fill the role of a tactical strike fighter.

PAF has its own hands full with planning testing and integrating JFT in progressively improved blocks. This activity will take it into 2020. There will be no new platform in this period. F16s if they come about will be inducted as we have a need for upto 110-120 fighters. The roles of M3/5 will be taken over by F16s and AESA equipped JFTs. PAF will most likely wait for 2023--25 to induct J31 equivalent which should have matured as a platform by the time. This is how I read it. Obviously if things take a turn for the worst then interim measures maybe required but otherwise it will be a wait for J31.

 

[fatman17]

The ROSE Mirages will be the last ones to retire. So far there is no news on replacements for the two tactical / night strike squadrons. My hunch is that the PAF will wait until the block III is inducted to make any changes.

 

[umair86]

May be in 2020-25 time frame Mirages will retired.

 

[ice_man]

The ROSE Mirages will be the last ones to retire. So far there is no news on replacements for the two tactical / night strike squadrons. My hunch is that the PAF will wait until the block III is inducted to make any changes.

will the air frames last almost another 7 years? that will be the key issue.

I remember around 3 years ago discussion on the Mirage 2000s used as a stop gap solution from Qatar. Seems like that is totally out of the equation now.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Quwa]

If other fighter ideas fail to materialize (e.g Su-35) or are too limited in available munitions (e.g. F-16s without JASSM, HARM, JSOW, etc), the PAF might try developing an enlarged JF-17. If there were a need for a Block-4, this would be it.