Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[PakShaheen79]

I think this latest development is not a goal in itself but a mean to get something further. PAF is looking to integrate Eastern weapons with Western fighter usually, it used to be a other way around. Chinese platform would get a European avionics/weapon package PGs is a prime example. For JF-17, a similar thing was envisioned in the form of RC-400+MICA combo... but this latest trend tells vividly that things have changed. PAF has far more confident on Chinese platforms than it used to have in the past. Now coming back to SD-10 integration on Mirage... Things will be clear in coming months but since I read this news I, for some odd reasons, cannot get this pic from my mind from the latest edition of Zuhai airshow. There is a clear possibility that things will move towards more Chinese weapons on Mirages.

 

[araz]

I think this latest development is not a goal in itself but a mean to get something further. PAF is looking to integrate Eastern weapons with Western fighter usually, it used to be a other way around. Chinese platform would get a European avionics/weapon package PGs is a prime example. For JF-17, a similar thing was envisioned in the form of RC-400+MICA combo... but this latest trend tells vividly that things have changed. PAF has far more confident on Chinese platforms than it used to have in the past. Now coming back to SD-10 integration on Mirage... Things will be clear in coming months but since I read this news I, for some odd reasons, cannot get this pic from my mind from the latest edition of Zuhai airshow. There is a clear possibility that things will move towards more Chinese weapons on Mirages.
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PL10e and HMCS! Now that might make a few sphincters cry ouch!!!!!!
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[Deltadart]

PL10e and HMCS! Now that might make a few sphincters cry ouch!!!!!!
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Especially the sphincters of the veg eaters, among others.

 

[GriffinsRule]

I think this latest development is not a goal in itself but a mean to get something further. PAF is looking to integrate Eastern weapons with Western fighter usually, it used to be a other way around. Chinese platform would get a European avionics/weapon package PGs is a prime example. For JF-17, a similar thing was envisioned in the form of RC-400+MICA combo... but this latest trend tells vividly that things have changed. PAF has far more confident on Chinese platforms than it used to have in the past. Now coming back to SD-10 integration on Mirage... Things will be clear in coming months but since I read this news I, for some odd reasons, cannot get this pic from my mind from the latest edition of Zuhai airshow. There is a clear possibility that things will move towards more Chinese weapons on Mirages.
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Mirage 2000 though and its underwing harpoints are already capable of carrying a-a and a-g weapons.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I think Pak should get the Egyptian Mirages if they're retired using KSA, UAE and Qatar connections....

 

[The Eagle]

7 mirage squadrons
7 squadron ROSE 1
CCS Mirage squadron ROSE 1
8 squadron NON ROSE
15 squadron (now 50 squadron as 15 cobras will be J10 now) NON ROSE
22 squadron NON ROSE
25 squadron ROSE 2
27 squadron ROSE 3


There is a special need which has freshly come up. Lets wait for another 27 Feb.

Mirages from No. 15 & 25 SQN participated in recent National Air Defence Exercise concluded on 3rd Feb, 2022. Was wondering about AD role for these Mirages?

All BVR capable fleet getting into shape, thou.

 

[denel]

Does this mean we can "put at rest" all of the T-Darter / R-Darter "rumours from the early 2000's

There was just talk but there was none transferred. I spoke with a colleague who confirmed, this never happened.

Mirages from No. 15 & 25 SQN participated in recent National Air Defence Exercise concluded on 3rd Feb, 2022. Was wondering about AD role for these Mirages?
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All BVR capable fleet getting into shape, thou.

man,.... dont show us our first girlfriend.... M3/5.... it makes us euphoric

 

[Talon]

Mirages from No. 15 & 25 SQN participated in recent National Air Defence Exercise concluded on 3rd Feb, 2022. Was wondering about AD role for these Mirages?
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All BVR capable fleet getting into shape, thou.

Pictures/videos are actually from Inter squadron armament competition 2019 , some clips are even older . I don't think all these squadrons necessarily participated in the exercise.

 

[The Eagle]

Pictures/videos are actually from Inter squadron armament competition 2019 , some clips are even older . I don't think all these squadrons necessarily participated in the exercise.

Surprise to see them Media wing becoming more like our private news media outlets posting a jet fighter merely for the sake of reference. At-least mirage picture can be relevant as if participated in the exercise.

 

[Talon]

Surprise to see them Media wing becoming more like our private news media outlets posting a jet fighter merely for the sake of reference. At-least mirage picture can be relevant as if participated in the exercise.

420 participated in ISAC .. picture is definitely from the same exercise. But yes if the sqn participated in the said exercise then kinda relevant.

 

[arjunk]

IF I am not wrong it was Mirage jet which lured Abhinandan into Pakistan he was trying to shoot down the Mirage which was returning back to Pakistan after successfully guiding the H-4 glide weapon.

So in this case we can understand that our Mirage Jets were toothless against the incoming MiG-21 interception package and was saved only by the launch of AIM-120 from F-16 which was flying CAP near LOC, therefore this attempt of integrating SD-10 with Mirage might be the lesson PAF learned after analysing the events of 27 Feb, 2019. This is where we should focus in our discussion related to the integration of SD-10 with Mirage jets.

BUT in this scenario the question which still I can not comprehend is:

The Centerline hardpoint of the Mirage Jet is the only hardpoint which could carry H-2/H-4 and its guidance and communication pod so if SD-10 is also integrated on centerline than how its is useful .... ???

We could either carry guidance & communication pod or SD-10 BVR on the centerline hardpoint of the Mirage strike team, keep in mind the employment of H-series weapon take two Mirage Jets one for the launch of H-2/H-4 and second for the guidance of H-series weapon. This leave no space for SD-10 on centerline hard point, on the reverse of this guidance/communication pod would have to be left If SD-10 is to be carried on that hardpoint.

I am really getting more confused thinking on this lines.

Re wiring the spaghetti wires and spaghetti code in the ancient mirages is not an easy task. If they are really desperate theoretically they can add another independent system wired to "dumb hardpoints" just for guiding SD-10s. But you may end up with a plane like India's Su-30MKIs, where half of the plane can't communicate with the other half.

 

[araz]

Re wiring the spaghetti wires and spaghetti code in the ancient mirages is not an easy task. If they are really desperate theoretically they can add another independent system wired to "dumb hardpoints" just for guiding SD-10s. But you may end up with a plane like India's Su-30MKIs, where half of the plane can't communicate with the other half.

It will possibly require an update with full rewiring and then testing which could take a year or so. Upgrading platforms could then start and will take years. The life of the platforms requires quick fixes till they can be-retired.
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[ziaulislam]

So no word on eygptians mirages
Is that a dead horse or is there any hope

 

[Windjammer]

The advent of the likes of Go Pro Cameras means we are privileged to view the locations and angles which normally only a fighter pilot would be in a position to see.
A PAF Mirage pilot pulling out of his base.

 

[PanzerKiel]

The advent of the likes of Go Pro Cameras means we are privileged to view the locations and angles which normally only a fighter pilot would be in a position to see.
A PAF Mirage pilot pulling out of his base.


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Thats a 15 Squadron Mirage.