Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[ANG]

Hi, kindly please read these three articles. They contain a wealth of information on the South African Air Forces upgrades of its Mirages, develpment of the advanced combat wing, and experimental re-engining of its Mirages with RD-33 engines.

The time of the Mirage 3/5 has passed and it is not cost effective to upgrade them anymore.

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/06/weekend-wings-39-south-africas-franken.html

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/06/weekend-wings-40-south-africas-franken.html

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/07/weekend-wings-41-south-africas-franken.html

I also remember reading in the late 90's early 2000's that the PAF had examined and discussed with the SAAF re-engining Mirages with RD-33 engines.

The French also had developed a version of the Mirage-III called the Mirage IIING, that had a fly-by-wire flight control system way back in 1982, but had no takers as the Mirage 2000 was available at that point in time.

http://www.wings-aviation.ch/57-Mirage/MirageNG.htm

 

[khanasifm]

MirAges not going anywhere for another decade or so, as long as paf picking up spares and used Ac across the globe plus Induction of jf is about 1 sqn per year so 3 pg plus 6 mirages (ccs mirage will just go away) almost 9 /10 years

I mean last mirage sqn will last another 9-10 years

 

[denel]

Hi, kindly please read these three articles. They contain a wealth of information on the South African Air Forces upgrades of its Mirages, develpment of the advanced combat wing, and experimental re-engining of its Mirages with RD-33 engines.

The time of the Mirage 3/5 has passed and it is not cost effective to upgrade them anymore.

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/06/weekend-wings-39-south-africas-franken.html

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/06/weekend-wings-40-south-africas-franken.html

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/07/weekend-wings-41-south-africas-franken.html

I also remember reading in the late 90's early 2000's that the PAF had examined and discussed with the SAAF re-engining Mirages with RD-33 engines.

The French also had developed a version of the Mirage-III called the Mirage IIING, that had a fly-by-wire flight control system way back in 1982, but had no takers as the Mirage 2000 was available at that point in time.

http://www.wings-aviation.ch/57-Mirage/MirageNG.htm

Thanks but as noted before time to move forward with newer machines. that was over 25yrs back

 

[Bossman]

The one reason the Mirages will continue to fly is that they are on the whole better than the Indian Jags and the Jags are not going anywhere.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Jags have newer airframes which means they will outlast all PAF Mirages, spares or not.

 

[aziqbal]

Mirage is still a brilliant high speed interceptor, at high speed is has brilliant manoeuvrability

Jag is too sluggish

 

[Storm Force]

Mirage is still a brilliant high speed interceptor, at high speed is has brilliant manoeuvrability

Jag is too sluggish

Indian jags are pure low level.twin engines strike planes only .

They will operate in domain where India mki and rafales plus S400.provide air supremacy.

Jaguar will never be found in pak airspace without top cover from mki o rafales

 

[Incog_nito]

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[ziaulislam]

Jags have newer airframes which means they will outlast all PAF Mirages, spares or not.

not necessary
some of the rebuild mirages are better given very low hours on them

most were built 70s to mid 1980s so even the newest juaguers are now atleast 30+ years old

so they will probably retire togther

 

[Bossman]

Indian jags are pure low level.twin engines strike planes only .

They will operate in domain where India mki and rafales plus S400.provide air supremacy.

Jaguar will never be found in pak airspace without top cover from mki o rafales

Grossly under powered.

 

[Tank131]

There are 3 Mirage III Sqd and 3 Mirage V sqd remaining that need replaced. Additionally there is 1 F-7p and 3 F-7PG sqd that need replaced. The first 20 F-7pg were acquired in late 2001 so are only 16 years old. These will likely (due to airframe fatigue issues) be the last to be replaced. The next sqd will likely be the F-7p (Sqd 18 sharp shooters) followed by non-rose mirages. Hopefully the ROSE Mirages will be replaced by an advanced strike fighter (maybe the 5th gen fighter from Project AZM)

 

[syed_yusuf]

f-7pg have good 7-10 years left in them and PAF intend to continue use them for some time. ROSE 2 and 3 will continue to soldier on for some time. F-7P is next to go for sure. non-rose 1 mirages are next followed by rose 1 mirages and then rose 2 & 3. i think next gen fighter will replace rose 2 and 3 and F-7PG. rest of F-7 and mirages of all other types will be replaced by JFT A and B.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Interior components (e.g. wiring), but not wings, tails, fuselage, etc.

Can we use JFT Manufacturing Facilities for Manufacturing of Mirage components?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Can we use JFT Manufacturing Facilities for Manufacturing of Mirage components?

Theoretically, but only to an extent. PAC doesn't manufacture all of the JF-17 so there are still going to be issues of acquiring finite surplus spare engines, fuselages, etc for the Mirages.