Can India & Pakistan come out of the spiral of mutual destruction ?

[Maula Jatt]

is kinda what it feels like sometimes, but we do share a similar irredentist dream, it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. We can prosper together. Think about it, we all want our families to live in peace, do we really want to risk the lives of our families with a war?

The blonde hair turk and greek gypsy sounds so familiar to insults on this forum...

 

[Akshay89]

For that to happen, Indian state must respect it's Muslim population.

 

[jk007]

With asians there is a problem of lesser tolerance towards people of same/similar races or origins. india pakistan rivalry, rivalry between the two koreas, china taiwan rivalry. afghanistan pakistan also have a similar pattern. And I don't know if rivalry is the right word to describe, but arabs have been degenerative in their thoughts towards each other.

While rivalry might be a universal phenomena, asians have the tendency to blow it out of proportion.

Within asia, subcontinent can hold a distinguished position if it can learn to manage its differences. But it requires sensible brains, a long term vision which ain't existed ever since the introduction of british style of politics.

Of course animosity runs deeper than kashmir, if it is not kashmir, it maybe general treatment of indians muslims. While there are genuine reasons for animosity on both sides, for the most part it is exploited by vested interest on both sides.

Is there anything called introspection in (most) Pakistanis lives (referring to your second last sentence)?

Not trolling.

Not trolling.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Is there anything called introspection in (most) Pakistanis lives (referring to your second last sentence)?

Not trolling.

Not trolling.

Repeating not trolling
when you're actually trolling and looking to get a nasty response doesn't mean you're not trolling
#grow tf up

 

[Joe Shearer]

It's a rite of passage.

He's a litmus test of sorts, judging by how one engages with him, it's reasonably clear who are level headed and the rest.

You also cannot deny the art, the consistency, the dedication it takes to turn the most liberal peacenik into a rabid warmonger who wants nothing but to push that shiny red button that or shitpost more to get back, logic be dammed.

Never thought of that!

That is SOME insight.

Totally impressed.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Repeating not trolling
when you're actually trolling and looking to get a nasty response doesn't mean you're not trolling
#grow tf up

You're being unfair and unkind.

He has given all Pakistanis a clear and distinct profile of what the soft bhakts are; not the hard ones who are RSS and committed to the hilt (nasty insinuation intended) but the other kind, not RSS but equally confused.

You can sort his answers and get

• their education
  • early education devoid of humanities,
  • later education STEM,
  • no exposure to politics or history or economics except through newspapers, TV and the Internet,
• their biases
  • the Muslim population is growing,
  • Hindus are oppressed in their own land,
  • negative attitude towards Indian history,
  • lack of belief in Indian leaders and search for alternatives,
  • defining one of the most racist politicians as his ideal profile,
  • the RSS cannot be misguiding Indians,
  • castes that he doesn't get along with are taking over Indian polity,
  • everybody is corrupt, and
• their solutions
  • Modi is taking firm action that nobody has taken before,
  • say anything that the Pakistani in the room wants to hear, and get rid of him).

Now you know what we are dealing with.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

We can never forgive muslims for the atrocities committed by their ancestors

Not sure why sanghis believe this BS. Name me single indigenous muslim ruler. All came from outside. But pretty much all of modern Indian muslims are indigenous, majority dalit converts just like christians. Sanghis want great relations with all those muslims who's ancestors ruled India, central Asians and Gulf arabs.

 

[Akshay89]

Pakistan was created because Pakistanis are a different race and religion to indians and we both hate eachother.

No.

Pakistan was created because Hindu elite couldn't accomodate rightful demands of the Muslims.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

No, indian politicans, military and media want to kill and destroy Pakistan.

 

[Krptonite]

Never thought of that!

That is SOME insight.

Totally impressed.

It's an iterative process and one rarely recognises the transformation masked by the zeal of a good come back. I'd like you to go re-read your posts specifically and see the gradual transformation from the intellectual discourse members were trying to have to shift the narrative to responding to butts and mama jokes.

Unintended but effectively kills the Frank discourse. Stop giving them Oxygen.

On a unrelated note, You're batting a hundred today, if I could impose and ask for the names of your medicines or failing that your personal doctor. I want what you had .

I

 

[Paitoo]

Not sure why sanghis believe this BS. Name me single indigenous muslim ruler. All came from outside. But pretty much all of modern Indian muslims are indigenous, majority dalit converts just like christians. Sanghis want great relations with all those muslims who's ancestors ruled India, central Asians and Gulf arabs.

Because they are low hanging fruits and a reminder of history. A punching bag. Is it rational? No. But then not much is rational about the subcontinent

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not sure why sanghis believe this BS. Name me single indigenous muslim ruler. All came from outside. But pretty much all of modern Indian muslims are indigenous, majority dalit converts just like christians. Sanghis want great relations with all those muslims who's ancestors ruled India, central Asians and Gulf arabs.

I realised what you'd said after reading @DrJekyll 's answer to you.

 

[Joe Shearer]

It's an iterative process and one rarely recognises the transformation masked by the zeal of a good come back. I'd like you to go re-read your posts specifically and see the gradual transformation from the intellectual discourse members were trying to have to shift the narrative to responding to butts and mama jokes.

Unintended but effectively kills the Frank discourse. Stop giving them Oxygen.

On a unrelated note, You're batting a hundred today, if I could impose and ask for the names of your medicines or failing that your personal doctor. I want what you had .

Two blockers and a blood thinner.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Stop giving them Oxygen.

Got it.

 

[Akshay89]

We can never forgive muslims for the atrocities committed by their ancestors

Hindus those who believe that Muslims killed 80 million Hindus are idiots.

If Muslim rulers had persecuted Hindus, India wouldn't be a Hindu majority nation.