Can India do what Russia did in Ukraine? -Gen. Tariq

[ziaulislam]

The biggest threat to pakistan isnt BLA or TTP or few intellectuals of sindh

Its the neo punjabism and anti army sentiment in trying to get hold central punjab

 

[Leviza]

Pakistan army and airforce already have a detailed plan for such adventures by india

Any violent attack on any airport or army installations will provoke such a massive response from Pak side and most of indian airforce bases along with runways will be targeted

There are red lines which even indians know they can’t cross

Let them say what ever they want to , but the reality is Pakiatani airforce, army and cruise missiles are ready to take on all near by Indian bases and runways

 

[PakSarZameen47]

The biggest threat to pakistan isnt BLA or TTP or few intellectuals of sindh

Its the neo punjabism and anti army sentiment in trying to get hold central punjab

Anti army sentiment exists in pockets throughout country though

 

[waz]

ToTALLY agree.

We could contribute at least 50 to 60 'players' from India!

I think we're onto a winner here friend. Considering the sheer number of buys from both nations it would be a surefire hit. Now have open communications and you'll never see a war again.

 

[ziaulislam]

Anti army sentiment exists in pockets throughout country though

It doesnt matter if it exists in some pockets in sindh or balochistan

But the sentiment rise in urban KPK, karachi & central punjab will be very damaging given these areas are most educated, where army, beaucracy gets its man power and these areas have strongest voting power

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

While I've been away, a whole new generation of military strategists has grown up and are now ready to, umm, shed their short pants and get into trousers.

Is it possible to have an IQ Test, and thereafter, age-bar members from posting without supervision until they have posted at least 100 posts that are not mind-numbingly ridiculous? Mind-numbingly as in the post above.

Those stupid, unprofessional mutts, Doenitz and Raeder. They didn't know they had to attack British ports, naval bases and other strategic targets.

Oops, forgot. From sea. Just in case any Hindu nincompoop thought that dark object in the shallows was an F 16 trying to get rid of the daily sludge.

Calm down!
Can you tell why we can't use submarines with land attack capabilities to hit land targets in case our land based cruise missiles can't reach there?
Here is test video of submarine launched missile hitting its land target.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

It doesnt matter if it exists in some pockets in sindh or balochistan

But the sentiment rise in urban KPK, karachi & central punjab will be very damaging given these areas are most educated, where army, beaucracy gets its man power and these areas have strongest voting power

I think anti army sentiment was worst in 2000s after Gen Musharraf and during Gen Kayani tenure. I don't think it is as bad as then... also what's neo punjabism? PMLN have always been subnationalist, that's nothing new

 

[Samurai_assassin]

IF, that's a huge If indian soliders managed to cross into Pakistan the local Pak population would take up arms. In fact many villages in upper Punjab are armed with assault rifles. There are endless availability of weapons across Pakistan.

 

[M. Sarmad]

The biggest threat to pakistan isnt BLA or TTP or few intellectuals of sindh

Its the neo punjabism and anti army sentiment in trying to get hold central punjab

There is no anti Army sentiment in central Punjab. Not even in the constituencies that vote for PMLN en masse. PMLN local leaders do not talk against Army. It's the top leadership only.

The only exception is the liberal wannabes from the urban centers. Army bashing has become sort of 'fashionable' in some elite universities (like LUMS)... They believe that Army bashing makes them look cool and educated .. not much of "sentiments" involved ..

PS: .. India has never been able to defeat Pakistan in the western theatre even when we didn't have nukes .. India neither has the means nor the will to do to Pakistan what Russia has done to Ukraine.. The chances of Pakistan invading/attacking India/ Indian Occupied Kashmir are in fact higher than India invading Pak

 

[Black Tornado]

Pakistan does not have one port for the love of God. Please do some research. Pakistan has 8. We have major naval bases in Jiwani Pasni, Ormara, Port Qasim and Gwadar. Most of the naval assets are based there away from India's immediate reach.

Karachi port handles 60% of your cargo, while Port Bin Qasem handles 35% of your cargo, both ports in Karachi nearby each other. Rest are small ports not much of importance if 95% is concentrated in a single city just 36km apart from each other.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

China will not get involved but someone crazy on our western border will even volunteer.. That is right the IEA.. They seem to have a large army you just slowly bring their conventional armed forces to high modern level.. Unleash them together with Pak Army.. I Guraantee you we will be able to overrun India within 12-48 months.

Besides I don't wanna ever see any General or gov't official taking a defensive approach towards India and if anyone does that he should be relieved of all his duties and sacked from their positions and posts while giving room to only the offensive oriented..

Also I wanna highlight this so that it sticks and nobody gets deluded ''WE ARE NOT IN DEFENSIVE AGAINST INDIA PERIOD WITH A BIG CAPITAL'' but rather in OFFENSIVE DOCTRINE AND WHEN FIRST BULLETS GO ALL OF INDIA IS FAIR GAME

Why these on the western borders because they are theorically crazy enough to undertake such an offensive and they don't mind to participate in it hence our approach should be only forward...

Invite the IEA to the campaign

You need tactical intelligence and pin-point precision calculations but you need above all that The crazy...

• “There's a fine line between genius and insanity. ...
• “No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness

Congrats ISPR, some maulvi kids are doing a better job with military photos and posters than you. Knowing Pakistani management styles, I'm willing to bet this PR team would prefer working under the Taliban than our organizations. @kursed @JamD

 

[kursed]

Gen. Panag - put a number on Indian Army KIAs, in the event of them opening a front to take AJK. In his very words, it’ll cost 4000 men for a 2 Sq km incursion.

While China may not intervene directly, they will use the war to their advantage if it ever happens. China’s first build up in Pangong Tso area was while Indian Army was fighting Kargil War with Pak. And this time, they’re right there. I wouldn’t put it beyond them to well maneuver, even if they will not engage.

As for India itching for a war, the almost exponential conventional buildup, across all three arms in last few years points to the fact that Pakistan is anticipating a war on the horizon and aims to deter it before it starts.

 

[UK_PAKISTANI]

China will not get involved but someone crazy on our western border will even volunteer.. That is right the IEA.. They seem to have a large army you just slowly bring their conventional armed forces to high modern level.. Unleash them together with Pak Army.. I Guraantee you we will be able to overrun India within 12-48 months.

Besides I don't wanna ever see any General or gov't official taking a defensive approach towards India and if anyone does that he should be relieved of all his duties and sacked from their positions and posts while giving room to only the offensive oriented..

Also I wanna highlight this so that it sticks and nobody gets deluded ''WE ARE NOT IN DEFENSIVE AGAINST INDIA PERIOD WITH A BIG CAPITAL'' but rather in OFFENSIVE DOCTRINE AND WHEN FIRST BULLETS GO ALL OF INDIA IS FAIR GAME

Why these on the western borders because they are theorically crazy enough to undertake such an offensive and they don't mind to participate in it hence our approach should be only forward...

Invite the IEA to the campaign

You need tactical intelligence and pin-point precision calculations but you need above all that The crazy...

• “There's a fine line between genius and insanity. ...
• “No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness

 

[PakSarZameen47]

There is no anti Army sentiment in central Punjab. Not even in the constituencies that vote for PMLN en masse. PMLN local leaders do not talk against Army. It's the top leadership only.

The only exception is the liberal wannabes from the urban centers. Army bashing has become sort of 'fashionable' in some elite universities (like LUMS)... They believe that Army bashing makes them look cool and educated .. not much of "sentiments" involved ..

Exactly apart from liberal circles it doesn't really exist. These circles are the same people that don't belie in two nation theory so no surprises there .....

 

[Samurai_assassin]

A decade ago there where rumours Pak backed militants were going to attack the Indian railway system. This caused massive panic across india, the people in their thousands fled, causing panic rush on the trains.
Ukrainians are Slavic race and are a tough people and somewhat battle hardened. Indians are not. Some could say the same about Pakistanis however Pakistan has been in a state of war for 20 years. Faced countless bombings, militant attacks and couner militery operations. Pakistanis are prepared, Indians are not. Reality is very different from Bollywood.