Buy F-16s to avoid sanctions post-Russia deal, US tells India

[rambro]

@Indos
Are you seeing this? US parts n components in KFX could lead this such predicament

 

[Rollno21]

India won't opt for this fighter and they have turned it down many times before. India will only opt for it if they are forced under extreme circumstances by Uncle Sam. I don't see that happening though.

It doesn't make any sense from every angles. The Americans have tried their level best, but are now resorting to blackmail. This is desperation by the Americans.

It's all speculation ,but rest assured f-16 might be built in India but India won't buy them,even if it's f18 there might be some chance but f-16 don't meet our airforce expectations.

 

[sputnik]

On the plus side for pakistan. We have 43+ years of experience with F 16s many different blocks. India will take decades to catch up in F16 vs f 16 battles even if they get upgraded 2018 variants of the bird.
Interesting times india with F16s hehe a little too late decades infact but haha atleast we will get to see F16 vs F16 perfect opportunity to shut indian mouths they always complaint pakistan had usa tech no wonder we with russian tech always have to be careful .

For Having Iranian Oil & Russian S-400 this is small price to pay.On contrary, F-16 is still workable in Indian interest. rather then building HAL Tejas, we should go for F-16. Will get F-18SH as well for sure.
US is just asking for US$ 5-6 Billion Dollar ransom. if we get Iranian oil, NSG membership & S-400 then it is ok. Cherry on Top will more H-1B visa as well.

 

[maximuswarrior]

For Having Iranian Oil & Russian S-400 this is small price to pay.On contrary, F-16 is still workable in Indian interest. rather then building HAL Tejas, we should go for F-16. Will get F-18SH as well for sure.
US is just asking for US$ 5-6 Billion Dollar ransom. if we get Iranian oil, NSG membership & S-400 then it is ok. Cherry on Top will more H-1B visa as well.

That is rather your wish list, but whether Trump complies is a whole different story. You already transgressed by buying something from someone you weren't supposed to. In other words, don't expect to be rewarded when you backstab your American ally in the back. This isn't the usual milking time for India. This is payback time. The F-16 in any configuration is not a reward for India. It is a fighter being shoved down your throat.

This is result of appeasing all sides and disloyalty.

It's all speculation ,but rest assured f-16 might be built in India but India won't buy them,even if it's f18 there might be some chance but f-16 don't meet our airforce expectations.

Your own words are speculation too.

 

[Laozi]

If decision is made to buy F16 by India, that means more chances of Modi to sort out some bribes.
Novel solution. Go for it Indians.

And Modi will stash those bribes in foreign countries for his sons and daughters

OR May be he will use that money on himself for travelling, gambling, on wines & women and buying luxury villas at exotic locations

 

[SirHatesALot]

US should offer F18

 

[Mustang06]

If they replace F shola with any other aircraft IAF/IN mughm consider. Plus there were reports that Naval helicopter tender would be given to MH60. I guess it'll help the orange peach to calm down.

 

[crankthatskunk]

And Modi will stash those bribes in foreign countries for his sons and daughters

OR May be he will use that money on himself for travelling, gambling, on wines & women and buying luxury villas at exotic locations

Who knows like "Gandhi" Modi may also have a "German Lover" hidden away. The bribe may help some "Gandhi" style orgies of young girls to prove "Restrain".

 

[Cookie Monster]

Why would a country spend so much time, effort and money on a platform which is being phased out by most operators? By the time the Indians have learned a thing or two about this platform we will be years ahead. It makes no sense to waste so much effort and time when newer and potentially more potent aircraft are available. The F-16 is certainly not a slouch, but the airframe has its limitations. You can improve by adding stuff here and there, but only so much.

The real bummer for Hindustan is that the Americans aren't willing to immediately offer their best without milking India first with older F-16s.

I agree in that it's time for the rest of the world to phase out 4th gen fighters and all new acquisitions should be for 5th gen...but just like how we expect technology to progress in other sectors...in this case things are different.

The biggest two reasons for that are the cost and availability of 5th gen platforms. So far there's only 3 that are operational(I'm just gonna include J20 here as well even though it doesn't have its own engines yet and is in LRIP). These 3 are F22, F35, and J20. Of these 3, 2 are off limits.

So even if a country wanted to acquire 5th gen platforms as the next step up rather than more 4th gen platforms...their only option so far that's operational is F35. For that a country needs to be in good graces of the US and have deep pockets.

So yes...technically speaking 4th gen stuff is obsolete since 5th gen tech has existed for a while now...but due to very few countries having that 5th gen tech and due to those reasons above...I think 4th gen(and 4+, 4++ gen) fighters are gonna stick around with progressive updates(to their electronics) for at least a decade more if not longer.

 

[Natan]

Choosing F-16 may also lead to transfer of know-how from other F-16 operators, such as Israel.

 

[pothead]

Make that F-18SH, and India might still consider.

Dont forget the tech transfer

 

[sputnik]

That is rather your wish list, but whether Trump complies is a whole different story. You already transgressed by buying something from someone you weren't supposed to. In other words, don't expect to be rewarded when you backstab your American ally in the back. This isn't the usual milking time for India. This is payback time. The F-16 in any configuration is not a reward for India. It is a fighter being shoved down your throat.

This is result of appeasing all sides and disloyalty.



Your own words are speculation too.

If trump comply is different story then Why Pakistani Jumping Here and there. Either way it confirms 1 thing for sure, we are getting S-400 and Iranian oil.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

That is rather your wish list, but whether Trump complies is a whole different story. You already transgressed by buying something from someone you weren't supposed to. In other words, don't expect to be rewarded when you backstab your American ally in the back. This isn't the usual milking time for India. This is payback time. The F-16 in any configuration is not a reward for India. It is a fighter being shoved down your throat.

This is result of appeasing all sides and disloyalty.



Your own words are speculation too.

Uncle Trump's SOP is like: what have you done for me tomorrow?????

 

[Sugarcane]

I don't think India will mind latest F-16 if manufactured in India for S-400 & Cheap oil from Iran. These F-16 still will be lot better than Tejass mounted over trucks.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

India cannot fight back and will cave in to US demand.

Agreed.

I don't think India will mind latest F-16 if manufactured in India for S-400 & Cheap oil from Iran. These F-16 still will be lot better than Tejass mounted over trucks.

Fully agreed.

Dont forget the tech transfer

India will get zero tech transfer of significance from the US irrespective of F-16 or F/A-18 deal. This has already been made quite clear by the US to India in the earlier discussions.