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Blasphemy Laws: Minorities to launch campaign

Hadees Books have all these incidents one of the most famous was KAAB a Jew even though Muslims had a contract with Jews but still he was killed for doing blashmey

Kaab's killing was not ordered because of blasphemy. That part was ignored. He was assassinated only because he violated his treaty and assisted in trying to instigate a war against the Prohpet as revenge for the killing of the tribe at Badr (Which once again the prohpet said had to be dealt with as per Jewish Law. It was the Jewish law which stated they had to be executed.)
 
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Kaab's killing was not ordered because of blasphemy. That part was ignored. He was assassinated only because he violated his treaty and assisted in trying to instigate a war against the Prohpet as revenge for the killing of the tribe at Badr (Which once again the prohpet said had to be dealt with as per Jewish Law. It was the Jewish law which stated they had to be executed.)

Sir their was another person killed after Battle of Badar he was arrested and was being taken to Madina when Hazrat MUHAMMAD SAW him among the prisoner he ordered him to be killed he was killed because he was the one who used to put Camels Internal Body Parts on the back of the PROPHET SAW when he used to pray in KAABAH in MAKKAH
 
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People who think that Blasphemy law is man-made should research in Hadith Books..

Six most authentic books of Hadith for the Muslims have numerous Hadiths which states the punishment for the Blasphemy against Prophet [S.A.W].

And this not just apply on Islamic Prophet Muhammed [S.A.W], but all the Prophets that have a place in Islam..

PUNISHMENT for Blasphemy in Islam.

The answer to this question may be given by addressing the two following issues:

1 – The ruling on one who insults the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)

The scholars are unanimously agreed that a Muslim who insults the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) becomes a kaafir and an apostate who is to be executed. This consensus was narrated by more than one of the scholars, such as Imaam Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh, Ibn al-Mundhir, al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad, al-Khattaabi and others. Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/13-16

This ruling is indicated by the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

In the Qur’aan it says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The hypocrites fear lest a Soorah (chapter of the Qur’aan) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: ‘(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allaah will bring to light all that you fear.’

If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?’

Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed”

[al-Tawbah 9:64-66]

This verse clearly states that mocking Allaah, His verses and His Messenger constitutes kufr, so that applies even more so to insulting. The verse also indicates that whoever belittles the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is also a kaafir, whether he was serious or joking.

With regard to the Sunnah, Abu Dawood (4362) narrated from ‘Ali that a Jewish woman used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say bad things about him, so a man strangled her until she died, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ruled that no blood money was due in this case.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Saarim al-Maslool (1/162): This hadeeth is jayyid, and there is a corroborating report in the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas which we will quote below.

This hadeeth clearly indicates that it was permissible to kill that woman because she used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Abu Dawood (4361) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that a blind man had a freed concubine (umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say bad things about him. He told her not to do that but she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did not heed him. One night, when she started to say bad things about the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and insult him, he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it and killed her. The following morning that was mentioned to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He called the people together and said, “I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right over him that he should stand up.” The blind man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I am the one who did it; she used to insult you and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was kind to me. Last night she began to insult you and say bad things about you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.” Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”

(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 3655)

It seems that this woman was a kaafir, not a Muslim, for a Muslim could never do such an evil action. If she was a Muslim she would have become an apostate by this action, in which case it would not have been permissible for her master to keep her; in that case it would not have been good enough if he were to keep her and simply rebuke her.

Al-Nasaa’i narrated (4071) that Abu Barzah al-Aslami said: A man spoke harshly to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq and I said, ‘Shall I kill him?’ He rebuked me and said, ‘That is not for anyone after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) .’” (Saheeh al-Nasaa’i, 3795)

It may be noted from this that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had the right to kill whoever insulted him and spoke harshly to him, and that included both Muslims and kaafirs.

The second issue is: if a person who insulted the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) repents, should his repentance be accepted or not?

The scholars are agreed that if such a person repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him.

But they differed as to whether his repentance should be accepted in this world and whether that means he is no longer subject to the sentence of execution.

Maalik and Ahmad were of the view that it should not be accepted, and that he should be killed even if he has repented.

They quoted as evidence the Sunnah and proper understanding of the ahaadeeth:

In the Sunnah, Abu Dawood (2683) narrated that Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqaas said: “On the Day of the Conquest of Makkah, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted safety to the people except for four men and two women, and he named them, and Ibn Abi Sarh… As for Ibn Abi Sarh, he hid with ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan, and when the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) called the people to give their allegiance to him, he brought him to stand before the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said, “O Prophet of Allaah, accept the allegiance of ‘Abd-Allaah.” He raised his head and looked at him three times, refusing him, then he accepted his allegiance after the third time. Then he turned to his companions and said: “Was there not among you any smart man who could have got up and killed this person when he saw me refusing to give him my hand and accept his allegiance?” They said, “We do not know what is in your heart, O Messenger of Allaah. Why did you not gesture to us with your eyes?” He said, “It is not befitting for a Prophet to betray a person with a gesture of his eyes.”

(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 2334)

This clearly indicates that in a case such as this apostate who had insulted the Prophet (S), it is not obligatory to accept his repentance, rather it is permissible to kill him even if he comes repentant.

‘Abd-Allaah ibn Sa’d was one of those who used to write down the Revelation, then he apostatized and claimed that he used to add whatever he wanted to the Revelation. This was a lie and a fabrication against the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and it was a kind of insult. Then he became Muslim again and was a good Muslim, may Allaah be pleased with him. Al-Saarim 115.

With regard to proper understanding of the ahaadeeth:

They said that insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has to do with two rights, the right of Allaah and the right of a human being. With regard to the right of Allaah, this is obvious, because it is casting aspersions upon His Message, His Book and His Religion. As for the right of a human being, this is also obvious, because it is like trying to slander the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) by this insult. In a case which involves both the rights of Allaah and the rights of a human being, the rights of the human beings are not dropped when the person repents, as in the case of the punishment for banditry, because if the bandit has killed someone, that means that he must be executed and crucified. But if he repents before he is caught, then the right of Allaah over him, that he should be executed and crucified, no longer applies, but the rights of other humans with regard to qisaas (retaliatory punishment) still stand. The same applies in this case. If the one who insulted the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) repents, then the rights of Allaah no longer apply, but there remains the right of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which still stand despite his repentance.

If it is said, “Can we not forgive him, because during his lifetime the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forgave many of those who had insulted him and he did not execute them?” The answer is:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sometimes chose to forgive those who had insulted him, and sometimes he ordered that they should be executed, if that served a greater purpose. But now his forgiveness is impossible because he is dead, so the execution of the one who insults him remains the right of Allaah, His Messenger and the believers, and the one who deserves to be executed cannot be let off, so the punishment must be carried out.

Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir. If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him[/QUOTE]

Sunan Abi Dawud and Sunan Nisa'i are a part of Sihah e Sittah, the six books of Hadith proven and considered most authentic by all the scholars of Muslims.
 
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who has to give me the right? I am from a country where free speech is endorsed, if I see that the ethics of a country is going against Human values, I sure will comment and no one can stop me

Listen mister.dont act like grand grand child of Ashoka or kotlya chakia and wake up from the dream of Akhand bharat aka india be a super power.

before you people dictate us look at your country
-how many womens get raped in your country on a single day?
-what about child abortion when their parents come to know that baby is girl.
-do amendment in hinduism in order to eradicate the curse of caste system.

after then dictate us.
 
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Guys, you can not argue with mental freak, I hope you all understand whom I am pointing too
 
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Listen mister.dont act like grand grand child of Ashoka or kotlya chakia and wake up from the dream of Akhand bharat aka india be a super power.

before you people dictate us look at your country
-how many womens get raped in your country on a single day?
-what about child abortion when their parents come to know that baby is girl.
-do amendment in hinduism in order to eradicate the curse of caste system.

after then dictate us.

so you say that, Rape and murder does not happen in your Glorious Pakistan, Child Abortion does not happen because most of the people are kept illetrate and if given half baked education will also opt for abortion and more over if you say that there is no caste system in Islam, they waht is Kurds, Sunnis, Shia and etc
 
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he was cleaver to have used the prophet to escape his crime, due to no forensic development at that time, i accuse the old man that he raped the Jew and killed her and in the court of the prophet he lied to the prophet to escape from being punished". is that not a possibility?

no.
a prophet has other source of information like revelation.

not sure what you know of your Islamic brotherhood around the world, let me tell you an incident that happened in India, you all know that Cow is a sacred animal in Hindu mytology and we do not kill or eat Cow. on the day of "Vinaaygar Chathurti" a festival to lord Ganesha, some of our muslim brothers threw Cow meat on the crowd of hindus carrying Lord Ganeshas statue, so as per your argument is it every Hindus duty to have killed our muslim brothers for their hatred. you as a radical would have expected that, but we are a civilized nation so we caught the guys and handed over them to the police. this is how India works and teaches the rest of the world to follow human justice, not to have a blind eye when it comes to religion.
your country your mess,we have nothing to do with it.similarly you have nothing to do with blasphemy law.
 
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no.
a prophet has other source of information like revelation.
and what is revelation? is it some kind of boon got from the God. oh great that is fantastic

your country your mess,we have nothing to do with it.similarly you have nothing to do with blasphemy law.

look around your countries status and say that again, who is in real mess?.
 
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Even if I am killed by that someone, he will be a killer not a man of honor.
if you commit a crime that is punishable by death then he is not killer.
Why don't you look into the cases wherein it was used as tool for personal scores. .
my dear you are mixing two things.law and its implementation.
law is fine but there is problem in its implementation.
Well whoever insults anyone's loved ones, be him Rasool (S.A.W) or Father, mother or sister.... He is condemned in every society. Where no one asks to killing of the person insulting
we can't be momin until we love Rasolallah (saw) more than any relation father,mother,sister,wife,children.
if some one say some thing bad about your mother i am damm sure you will not just condemn but break his jaw,
but why hypocrisy when it come to prophet.?
Please quote any Aayah as I requested earlier, to support your stance. Do not pretend to be like Mumtaz Qadri.
lol
-for example.tabat ya da be abi lahab.....
-if we raise our voices louder than the voice of prophet then our ammal will be destroyed.(verse demands lot of respect for prophet saw)

things are more clear when we come to hadith.
as a reference see book
saremal maslool fi shatamar rasool by allamaibe tamiya

So allah didn't ordered to Kill them, right? just called them that they are worst than cattles.

true.if a person deny prophethood of prophet saw it does not mean that we should run to cut his throat.

Lol, don't tell me what is to be done. I was referring to the same people who show their love towards Rasool (S.A.W.) by dancing / aerial firing, feel that it is a short cut to go to jan'nah by killing anyone on account of blasphemy.

yara i am not responsible for their actions.i told you my opinion.definitely they are wrong
 
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Sir Islam has not been
implemented yet in Pakistan
and for your kind information
many people were killed
because their was no law so no
body went to court they did justice on their own
So after implementation of blasphemy law true islam arrived in pakistan.? Also people r still takng law in their own hand. Eg killing of salman taseer
 
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@ ashokdeiva
in the reply of your last two posts.
first learn about things at which you are commenting.i am not here to educate you.
you have no idea what so ever what you are talking about.
from my side end of discussion with you.
 
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if you commit a crime that is punishable by death then he is not killer.
So, if I see a person killing another, means he is punishable for death, does that gives ME right to kill him? will I be called a Killer or the helping hand of judiciary?

my dear you are mixing two things.law and its implementation.
law is fine but there is problem in its implementation.

This is what I have said before, but can you raise voice for its amendment?
we can't be momin until we love Rasolallah (saw) more than any relation father,mother,sister,wife,children.
if some one say some thing bad about your mother i am damm sure you will not just condemn but break his jaw,
but why hypocrisy when it come to prophet.?
Lolz, as a natural reaction I may break his jaw, or may be I remain calm by thinking that 'if he is saying something wrong about my mother, it is his own doing, why should I be angry for that'.


lol
-for example.tabat ya da be abi lahab.....
-if we raise our voices louder than the voice of prophet then our ammal will be destroyed.(verse demands lot of respect for prophet saw)

things are more clear when we come to hadith.
as a reference see book
saremal maslool fi shatamar rasool by allamaibe tamiya

Sorah Lahab:
[Lahab 111:1] May both the hands of Abu Lahab be destroyed – and they are destroyed!
I dont find anything that he must be killed.

true.if a person deny prophethood of prophet saw it does not mean that we should run to cut his throat.
So at least we are in agreement that 'killing' is not the solution, neither it is permitted through Quran.

yara i am not responsible for their actions.i told you my opinion.definitely they are wrong

So the same 'wrong' people are biggest supporters for this law. We need to understand that 295 C is a man made law, that was introduced to avoid blasphemous statements against Rasool e Akram (S.A.W.), that is not an 'Aayaah' which cannot be amended or abolished. Where there is an established fact that the same law has been used to settle the personal scores. Have you gone through the process of punishment under this law. Do you know the Case of Asia bibi? for whom Salman Taseer got killed. We have numerous cases where this law has been wrongly used.
 
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And if the west inacted such laws? The practice or proffesion of anything other than christianity punishable by crucifixion? How would all the supporters of these laws feel in that case? Our right?

Sir in this case only LAW OF ISLAM will be followed

Janubaba, what do you mean here? Juice asked a valid question.

"Today, the U.S. passed HR 4765 which penalizes anyone who mocks or disrespects Jesus, with death."

Such a law would make people's heads explode. Yet it's OK to have a similar law in Pakistan?

I am a huge advocate of the peaceful pursuit of one's religion... or no religion at all. If an atheist says "Jesus was the bastard child of a Roman Centurion" then that is his opinion, and I don't get to kill him.
 
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